June 11, 2012

William Collum promoted to Elite Group, Blom leaves it

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Scottish referee William Collum has been promoted to UEFA Elite Group of Refereeing.
After having refereed five UEFA Champions League encounters and fourteen UEFA Europa League matches, he will join the pool of 24 match officials who savour the highest position possible at UEFA refereeing. The number of 24 officials indicates that this is not the only movement in the roster, as there have been 22 referees in ELITE Group so far. Along with Craig Thomson also being on the ELITE list, Scotland now poses two officials there, which had never been the case before.
Having already refereed the final of 2008 UEFA U19 EURO and two matches at 2011 FIFA U20 World Cup, Collum emphasized that it was "obviously a great news for [him], but [especially] for Scottish refereeing. Furthermore, he highlighted the influence of UEFA Referee Committee member Hugh Dallas, consequently, he concluded: "I would like to thank the Scottish FA and [Head of Referee Development] John Fleming for their support – not just to myself but the whole refereeing fraternity - and also to Hugh Dallas, who remains a huge supporter and champion for Scottish refereeing in his position at UEFA."
Collum works as teacher for Religious Education in the north of Scotland.

source: Scottish FA

At the same time, Kevin Blom from the Netherlands has been relegated to First Group.
Two referees have been relegated from Elite Development to First Group: Alan Kelly from Ireland and Robert Schörgenhofer from Austria. István Vad of Hungary has been promoted to Elite Development. Later more.

49 Comments:

  1. Now that's a bit of a surprise. I am not sure how to evaluate this decision. Maybe a bit early, to say it that way...

    I wonder wether Benquerença, Blom and Meyer are kept on the Elite list.

    Kralovec is almost certain to be promoted; maybe also Gräfe?
    Of course there are other candidates. However, I would be a little surprised if Mazic or Hagen would already be put on the Elite list as they have only just joined the ED group.

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  2. We may not forget Fernández Borbalán.

    I think the sentence Collum said is a bit cynical, but honest. He thanks Dallas for this promotion. He is honest, he indeed says that political decisions are made. Interesting, so it was no imagination from our side :P

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  3. Anonymous12/6/12 09:55

    Since you can just head shake and wonder. A political decision with Dallas in the background.There are much better referees than this average Scots.

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  4. Expected news about Blom. Not the same about Schörgenhofer, UEFA seemed to push the Austrian referee....


    By the way, Al Ghamdi strikes again, watch this video and please explain the penalty, if you are able:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Evi5CKatij4
    furthermore, he sent off two players, due to double yellow cards, I guess in a very easy way....

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  5. Didnt fit to my understanding... Schörgenhofer was actually pushed again by UEFA after retirement of Einwaller, now they regulate him back to first cat. I wonder what did they see that much unsatisfactory with him.
    Sad for Kelly, he is the realized version of how to get stuck in a category. It seems he missed some previous clear chances.

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    1. I think he had nobody behind him. Kelly showed satisfactory and good performances this season..

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    2. I think that Kelly had not so many chances to show his skills.

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    3. Kelly had his first EL R32 in 2008. His first EL was 2005. It is quite a long time, I dont think we may directly link this to politics. If so, how he could stand so many years.
      I watched him two times and satisfied with performances, however it seems UEFA has expected such kind of a boost. But, they never assigned him to a remarkable match where he could make that breakthrough...

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    4. Anonymous13/6/12 17:19

      If a referee has nobody behind him, he has no chance as Schörgenhofer. As endeavours was promoted the brave and unassuming small Scottish referee COLLUM in the elite... Not understandable.

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    5. Anonymous13/6/12 18:23

      Do not understand the Alan Kelly reason. Heard he should had a red in CL in Madrid. Yet other refs who have bad games are kept ! Amazing

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  6. Finally Vad, but what do they see wrong in Schorgenhofer... What is so good in Orsato? Did Collum deserve Elite? Too many questions...

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  7. By the way, we have noticed that Khalil Al Ghamdi has allegedly shown one of the worst performances ever seen. Is that right? Has anyone watched it?

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    1. Probably not. Unfortunately, Al Jazeera Sports Global doesn't show last round of WC AFC Qualifiers. If one man put in on youtube, I download it. I have downloaded Japan - Oman, Jordan - Iraq, Uzbekistan - Iran, Lebanon - Qatar and Lebanon - Uzbekistan. Reports after Euro :)

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    2. I posted a message, now it seems disappeared.
      This is the penalty:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Evi5CKatij4

      can you explain it?

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    3. 1:07 is pulling, but extremely harsh. I think even in Morocco, where referees are happy to show on the penalty spot, this penalty would not given :)

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    4. If you give this penalty, before every corner or free kick you have to give 20 or 30 penalties in every match.

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    5. Full agree :) Khalil Al-Ghamdi must be actor, everyone must understand it :D

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    6. At least, he is consistent in each match he referees, we can't blame or criticize him about that. This is his style and maybe AFC and FIFA are really proud!

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    7. In AFC many referees are so meticulous. We all remember Al-Ghamdi's red card at WC. You are right, he is extremely consistent in axtremely meticulous approach ;)

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    8. They officiate the WC qualifying matches with the AFC kit.
      Is that correct? They should wear the FIFA one in that games, or am I wrong?

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    9. Yes, they always wear AFC kit. I don't know what are recommendations by FIFA. Maybe aren't any.

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    10. For example, in the CONMEBOL qualifying matches is different.
      Referees wear always the FIFA kit (even though they have a special one, as AFC has). Anyway they use the spray can, too.

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  8. By the way, I am not content with many political decisions made by UEFA Referees Committee... You must have member there from your country to be sure your chances are stronger than others...

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    1. Anonymous13/6/12 17:22

      You can only sign this. So it is.See Collum(Dallas)!

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  9. Anonymous12/6/12 15:39

    When will be published complete list of groups??

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  10. Not sure, perhaps we get it soon.
    Khalil Al Ghamdi is to my mind by far the most inconsistent referee being on the pre list for 2014. The fact that guys like Kim Dong Jin have been removed and that he is still there, is a joke.

    And concerning UEFA. I would wait. Perhaps Kralovec' or Mazic' promotions are published soon, too. These names are only provisional, perhaps something will still follow.

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    1. I think that for Mazic it's early because he has still to do his debut in CL group stage.
      Or maybe the many matches in EL of last season were enough?

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    2. The matches were good, the performances not always.
      I think that it is not that important to have a CL match. Who is better? Someone who has already whistled BATE-AC Milan in CL or someone who has refereed six high profile EL matches?

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  11. Anonymous12/6/12 21:50

    What do you think about Strahonja? It seems to me that is very good, young and promising referee. Are there opportunities to get into elite?

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    1. Don't know, but for sure Strahonja, Vad and Mazic are strong enough to reach an Elite.

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  12. What do you all think about Firat Aydinus? He was better than Cuneyt Cakir in Turkish League to my opinion. Do you think he will get some matches in CL this year?

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  13. Aydinus has failed the uefa fitness tests in January, but I think he could get a CL group stage match as elite development ref.

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  14. Anonymous13/6/12 18:58

    Do referees like Andre Marriner,Ovidiu Alin Hategan,Matej Jug ,Stephan Studer chance for elite development.

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    1. Marriner certainly not, Hategan perhaps in the future, Jug has not joined ED yet and Studer rather no.

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  15. Anonymous14/6/12 14:05

    I think that Matej Jug is really good referee and he should get chance to referee in Champions league (he had 5 games in Europa league ) soo he can get a place in Elite development (now he is in first group) and afterall Skomina joined Elites when he was 33 years old. Jug is 32 years old

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    1. Yes, this guy has potential I think.

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  16. Anonymous14/6/12 17:09

    Skomina and Jug are from same country with Vladimir Sajn, member of UEFA referee committee. I think this is the main reason for their early promotions (Slovenia is a small country in Europe)
    Same thing with Collum. He is in Elite thanks to Hugh Dallas (Scotland).
    Take a look at Slovakia: Lubos Michel was the youngest referee in CL ever. But J. Marko was in UEFA referee committee. Now Marko give huge help for other slovakian: Kruzliak. In his 1st year as FIFA referee Kruzliak had 10 games in Europe! In his 2nd year he was in charge in Euro u17 final!

    There are political decisions, but obviously are not corect.

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    1. Lubos Michel was a talent, then Slovakia had many years without an acceptabe referee, it's not wrong in my opinion if now they try to push Kruzliak. Of course, he should show his ability, but please don't judge a man only base on his country.
      Your speech about Dallas and Collum could be the same for Collina and Rizzoli, Batta and Lannoy, Eriksson and Karlsson, Webb and Elleray, and so on... we haven't all the knowledge to say that.

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    2. Anonymous14/6/12 17:57

      I disagree, Slovakia had 2 referees at high level: Lubos Michel (Elite) and Hrinak (Premier).
      Lubos Michel retired in october 2008 and Hrinak in december 2009. Retirement of Michel was unexpecte, otherwise he would have been even now an Elite referee.
      So, Slovakia didn't have referee at high level since 2010 (not so long time) and this was only because the unexpected retirement of Michel.

      Regarding the rest of mentioned referee (Skomina, Jug, Collum, Kruzliak, even Moen) I want to say they were promoted so early only because their countries have a member in Uefa referee committee. It's impossible for a referee from Belarus, Bulgaria, Finland etc. to be promoted so fast.

      P.S: I don't remember Webb, Lannoy, Rizzoli etc. to be in Elite (or Elite Development) at 31-32 years old...

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    3. Anonymous15/6/12 13:16

      Yes that is right and sad at the same time. There are political decisions, but obviously are not corect.

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    4. Yes, that is partly right. You however have also to keep in mind the way of development some referees have already taken in their original countries. An example can be Zwayer and Fritz from Germany. Three years ago, Fritz was not even a Bundesliga ref, now he is FIFA listed and was directly put into Second Group of UEFA referees. This might be unfair, but in a way, it is justified. These guys have taken a development in a pool of 80.000 referees in Germany. 80.000. You can take all the countries LVA, EST, LTU, FIN and BLR together and you will not arrive at this number. So of course there can be political decisions (like in real life, many things depend on "vitamin Connection"). Furthermore one must take into account that football in countries like the Baltic ones and Finland is less developed than in the rest of Europe. The pace is not that high, the financial opportunities to develop football in such countries are probably not that big. This has to be regarded as well, besides all the justified criticism related to politics in refereeing.

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  17. Anonymous15/6/12 22:12

    http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/access2012.html

    This classification should be our start of discussion. Few ideas:

    - I didn't compare referees from Finland, Belarus or Bulgaria with referees from Germany, Spain, England, Italy etc. It's obviously that from Spain, England etc. are much better than referees from the rest of Europe and should be promoted faster. I 100% agree with niclas about this matter.

    -I compared referees from Slovenia, Slovakia, Scotland (even Sweden or Norway) with referees from other countries which don't have a member in uefa referee committee.
    Take a look on level of various european leagues according UEFA coefficients:

    38. SLOVENIA : I repeat, number 38 in Europe! But Skomina was in Elite at 31-32 years old. Now also Jug (born 1981) is high flying. It's obviously why...because of Vladimir Sajn.

    28. SWEDEN: number 28 in Europe! But they have Eriksson and Strombergsson. Also Johanneson and Hanson were in upper categories in last seasons . Is the swedish league so good to give us so good referees? No, the answer is Bo Karlsson.

    26. NORWAY: other poor league but with big names is european refereeing like Terge Hauge, Ovrebo, Moen, Hagen. 4 referees at highest level in last 5 years. Of course the reason is their value...not Rune Pedersen who is a very influential man (if I remeber well he also was member of uefa referee committee)

    25. SLOVAKIA: Lubos Michel, Hrinak and now the new "wonder boy" Kruzliak.

    Of course in Slovenia, Sweden, Norway, Slovakia the level of football is very high, there is always big crowd at the game, the pressure is high there etc....obviously they give us very good referees.

    On the other hand from countries like Ukraine (6th in Europe), Romania(13th), Israel (17th), Czech republic(18th), Croatia (21th) we didn't have an Elite referee in last 10 years I think.

    One more example: you can't compare level of football from Slovenia with level of football from Serbia(27th) or Croatia (21th) in terms of tradition, history, interest,stadiums, crowd, pressure...But Slovenia has referee at Euro 2012 !

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  18. Anonymous15/6/12 22:58

    But anonymous some referees are just better than other and you cant say that some Croatian referees or Serbia(Mazič probably deserves it) but Skomina afterall is good in Europa league and Champions league and I dont know why he dont deserve place at Euro 2012

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  19. Anonymous16/6/12 13:27

    Skomina is now, in 2012, a good referee. I agree.

    But I have huge doubts that he would have been promoted so fast without the help of Vladimir Sajn. That's the point.
    The problem is that referees from few countries (like Sweden, Slovenia, Norway, Slovakia) have much more chances to be promoted (very early <30 years old) comparing with other referees from countries which don't have member in Uefa referee committee.
    An example: maybe 5 years ago when Skomina was promoted, there were other referees better than him in various countries, but those referee didn't have someone to help them. For me is strange that "supertalents" come always from same countries (like Norway, Sweden, Slovenia, Slovakia).

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  20. Anonymous16/6/12 13:53

    Anyone who denies the influence uefa referee committee members have in pushing referees from their own countries denies that night follows day!!
    What is more concerning is that now we see other countries 'hiring' members of uefa refs comm to work in their countries.
    For example is it a coincidence that Turkey now have their first elite referee at a finals tournament for many many years now that the Dutch member of uefa refs cimm works in Turkey? And Collina in Ukraine now promoting their refs!!! Is this not a clear conflict of interest?
    But Cakir in Turkey is a v good referee. It is not his fault the system needs Turkey to 'hire' in help to get him a chance. That's the real shame here. Skomina is a good ref, but without help he would not be noticed. How many good Finnish, Welsh, Bosnian refs have slipped through the net and been missed because they don't have members on referees comm. this is the real failing of uefa. Refs comm should be refreshed totally every few years to mix and match across a wider range of countries, not just the chosen few.

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  21. That is the crucial question..what if one had pushed Kulbakov that intense as one did with Cakir? Perhaps he would be today a euro ref, noone knows. But of course, it is - like everything in football - a conflict of interest. Take a look at Africa, on their pre list for 2014. Diatta, Jedidi and Haimoudi are there and - surprise - one countryman each is in the fifa committee.
    This could also be a reason for FdB having never reached a European final. Others were prefered, in a row, by Marko, Elleray etc. On the other hand, Kassai and Busacca had nobody behind them, they are/were simply good enough..

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    1. Badara Diatta is the most experienced CAF referee now (after Codjia retirement), maybe even more than Maillet. Furthermore, he was already in the 2010 Pre list, so please don't mention him along with other ridicolous names :D (of course, this is my opinion).

      About referees pushed by UEFA committee: it's also clear that they have to do choices, they can't push each referee of every country, of course. We have to recognize that they are doing a good work with some referees of minor federations. Of course, not yet in a Champions League match, but in the Europa League group stage. For the future, who knows? Maybe they will be promoted. I'm talking about, for example, Kaasik from Estonia (Niclas, you have watched him live, if I rememebr well), Mazeika from Lithuania, the previously mentioned Belarusian Kulbakov. Also a referee from Kazakhstan (Artyom Kuchin) was regarded with the Under 19 final. And I was forgetting Stavrev, promoted in the Elite Development Category, even though from Macedonia, for sure a country that has no members in Committee.
      We can discuss about that, but taking into accounts all these aspects.

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    2. It is nonetheless strange that Diatta was not considered on the first prospective list, which even contained 10 names, then a Senegalese man joins FIFA committee in late 2011 and now he is there. Coincidence? I know that he is good, but FIFA could know that before 2011 as well.
      Furthermore, take a look on the assistant referees who are heavily pushed in Africa. Felicien Kabanda from Rwanda. Before that Ntagungira. I know that both are/were excellent, but one could have pushed someone from Chad, too, perhaps he would be that good as well. Now, Ntagungira is by the way joining the committee, too.
      Kaasik was not good enough in the match I saw from him live in Schalke Arena, you remembered correctly. Kuchin is a good example. He gets the final, shows a good tournament overall and what did come then? Nothing. No EL match. Not even EL. Instead, one pushes Hagen, who did not even manage to get a 3rd match as 4th at the same tournament. But that's a phantom debate, it is like that, one must accept it, by the way, if you take a look at tennis or handball, the umpires/referees are selected by origin as well, not by performances. The same counts for ice hockey etc etc.

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  22. petschovschi16/6/12 19:29

    I would not include Busacca and Switzerland here. This is a special case because headquarters of FIFA and UEFA are both in Switzerland (but i want to say that Busacca was really good).

    If you remember Switzerland had always top referees: Bruno Galler, Kurt Rothlisberger, Urs Meier, Busacca...Retirement of because was more or less unexpected and let Switzerland without a top referee. But it won't take too much until Switzerland will have a top referee. Trust me :)

    About Kassai he's good. I don't know how but one in a decade Hungary has a top refereee: Palotai, Puhl, Kassai !

    But Niclas said everything: you must have someone to push you, esspecially if you are not from a big country (Italy, England, Spain, Germany). Otherwise it's very difficult (or even impossible) to reach Elite !

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