November 17, 2012

UEFA Champions League - Match Official Appointments (MD5)


Carlos Velasco Carballo to officiate at Istanbul (c) ZIMBIO




(DEN) FC Nordsjælland
FC Nordsjælland
FC Shakhtar Donetsk
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Parken, Copenhagen (DEN) Group E
Referee: Antony Gautier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Michaël Annonier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Cano (FRA)
Fourth Official: Eric Dansault (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Olivier Thual (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Michel Pralong (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bo Karlsson (SWE)*
Referee Liaison Officer:


(ITA) Juventus Turin
Juventus
Chelsea FC
Chelsea London (ENG)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Juventus Stadium, Torino (ITA) Group E
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Bülent Yıldırım (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Svein Johannessen (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Melo Pereira (POR)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(BLR) BATE
FC BATE Borisov
LOSC Lille
Lille OSC (FRA)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 18:00 CET, Dinamo Stadion, Minsk (BLR) Group F
Referee: Marijo Strahonja (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Sinisa Premuzaj (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Igor Krmar (CRO)
Fourth Official: Ivica Modrić (CRO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Igor Pristovnik (CRO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Ante Vučemilović-Simunović jr (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Andrian Ixari (MDA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Adrian Casha (MLT)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(ESP) Valencia CF
Valencia CF
FC Bayern München
Bayern München (GER)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Estadi di Mestalla, Valencia (ESP) Group F
Referee: Howard Webb (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Mullarkey (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Darren Cann (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stephen Child (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Lee Probert (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Mike Dean (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Michele Uva (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Tulinger (CZE)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(RUS) Spartak Moskva
FC Spartak Moskva
FC Barcelona
FC Barcelona (ESP)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 18:00 CET, Luzhniki Stadium, Moscow (RUS) Group G
Referee: Ivan Bebek (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomislav Petrović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Miro Grgić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Dalibor Conjar (CRO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Domagoj Vučkov (CRO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Goran Gabrilo (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Dr. Rainer Koch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(POR) Benfica
SL Benfica
Celtic FC
Celtic (SCO)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Estádio da Luz, Lisbon (POR) Group G
Referee: Viktor Kassai (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: György Ring (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Kispál (HUN)
Fourth Official: Gabor Erös (HUN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tamás Bognar (HUN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Mihály Fabián (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Cristian Bivolaru (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jørn West Larsen (DEN)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(TUR) Galatasaray
Galatasaray AŞ
Manchester United FC
Man. United (ENG)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Ali Sami Yen Spor Kompleksi, Istanbul (TUR) Group H
Referee: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez (ESP)
Fourth Official: Roberto Díaz Pérez Del Palomar (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: César Muñiz Fernández (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Del Cerro Grande (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(ROU) CFR Cluj
CFR 1907 Cluj
SC Braga
Braga (POR)
Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Stadionul Dr Radulescu, Cluj-Napoca (ROU) Group H
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Nikolay Golubev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Tikhon Kalugin (RUS)
Fourth Official: Anton Averianov (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Aleksei Nikolaev (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Layushkin (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: Bernd Barutta (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)*
Referee Liaison Officer:


(POR) FC Porto
FC Porto
GNK Dinamo Zagreb
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Estádio do Dragão, Porto (POR) Group A
Referee: Paolo Tagliavento (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Mauro Tonolini (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Fourth Official: Riccardo Di Fiore (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Luca Banti (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Paolo Mazzoleni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Mike Foster (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(UKR) Dynamo Kyiv
FC Dynamo Kyiv
Paris Saint-Germain FC
PSG (FRA)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, NSK Olimpyiskyi, Kyiv (UKR) Group A
Referee: Wolfgang Stark (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Hendrik Salver (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Mike Pickel (GER)
Fourth Official: Mark Borsch (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tobias Welz (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Damgaard (DEN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Jones (ENG)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(GER) Schalke 04
FC Schalke 04
Olympiacos FC
Olympiacos (GRE)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Veltins Arena, Gelsenkirchen (GER) Group B
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin E.J. Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Angelo Boonman (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Richard Liesveld (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Campbell Ogilvie (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nuno Castro (POR)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(ENG) FC Arsenal
Arsenal FC
Montpellier Hérault SC
Montpellier HSC (FRA)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Emirates, London (ENG) Group B
Referee: Fırat Aydinus (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Serkan Ok (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleks Tascioglu (TUR)
Fourth Official: Çem Satman (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tolga Özkalfa (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Ori Shilo (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Eugen Strigel (GER)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(RUS) Zenit St. Petersburg
FC Zenit St Petersburg
Málaga CF
Málaga CF (ESP)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 18:00 CET, Petrovskiy Stadium, St.Petersburg (RUS) Group C
Referee: Olegário Benquerença (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: João Santos (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Ricardo Santos (POR)
Fourth Official: Rui Tavares (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Artur Soares Dias (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Taborda Xistra (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Charles Schaack (LUX)
UEFA Referee Observer: Donald Mcvicar (SCO)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(BEL) RSC Anderlecht
RSC Anderlecht
AC Milan
AC Milan (ITA)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Constant Vanden Stock Stadium, Brussels (BEL) Group C
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Žunič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Bojan Ul (SVN)
Fourth Official: Primož Arhar (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Ponis (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Dragoslav Perič (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Georg Pangl (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(NED) Ajax Amsterdam
AFC Ajax
Borussia Dortmund
Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam (GER) Group D
Referee: Pedro Proença (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Tiago Trigo (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Bertino Miranda (POR)
Fourth Official: Venâncio Raposo Tomé (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Duarte Gomes (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: João Capela (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alfredo Trentalange (ITA)
Referee Liaison Officer:


(ENG) Man. City
Manchester City FC
Real Madrid CF
Real Madrid (ESP)
Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 20:45 CET, Etihad Stadium, Manchester (ENG) Group D
Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Elenito Di Liberatore (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Gianluca Cariolato (ITA)
Fourth Official: Massimiliano Grilli (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Andrea De Marco (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Mauro Bergonzi (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Schmölzer (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dr. Vaclav Krondl (CZE)
Referee Liaison Officer:

* UEFA Referee Committee Member

144 Comments:

  1. Predictions

    JUV-CHE: Cakir
    NOR-DON: Chapron
    VAL-BAY: Eriksson
    BOR-LIL: Göcek
    SPA-BAR: Stark
    BEN-CEL: Kassai
    GAL-MAN: Velasco Carballo
    CLU-BRA: Orsato

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    1. Göcek in CL: is that just your guess, or...?
      Instead, I think that Aydinus is ready for his third match.

      I agree with Cakir appointed for Juventus - Chelsea. Another name here could be Brych, but UEFA correctly keeps him, waiting for Mathcday 6. The Turkish has to fly to Japan, so he will almost surely (95%) get this match.

      Galatasaray - Manchester United is a very important match, after what happened in the first matchday. Here, a big name, surely. My guess is not Velasco Carballo, but Viktor Kassai. Hoping that Eros can show a faultless performance.

      Spartak Moskva - Barcellona could be the right match for Stark, I agree with you.








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    2. Göcek is only a guess to make you think and ask such questions ;)
      I don't believe that Göcek and Cakir appear in CL at the same matchday, but Göcek is certainly not far away from a debut.
      The only hindrance for Stark in this match is that Meyer had Spartak on MD4. I agree on your proposals for the other mentioned matches.

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    3. Niklas and UEFA not OK

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  2. my tip 5 kol
    PORTO - DINAMO; ERIKSSON
    DYNAMO.K - PSG; KRALOVEC
    ARSENAL - MONPELLIER; ROCCHI
    SCHALKE - OLYMPIAKOS; NIJHUIS
    ZENIT - MALAGA; MOEN
    ANDERLECHT - MILAN; AYDINUS
    AJAX - BORUSIA; KASSAI
    M.C - REAL; TAGLIAVENTO
    NORDSJAELLAND - SZACHTAR; STAVREV
    JUVE - CHELSEA; SKOMINA
    BATE - LILLE; DE,SOUSA
    VALENCJA - BAYERN; WEBB
    SPARTAK - BARCA; BRYCH
    BENFICA - CELTIC; KARASEV
    GALATA - M.U; MALLENCO
    CLUJ - BRAGA; VADjr

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    1. Vad is a nice guess, de Sousa, too, also Skomina could be possible.
      But many appts are not working: Karasev may not be in G because he is Russian, Mallenco, Stavrev, Kassai, Kralovec, Rocchi already had a team you assigned them for. Tagliavento for City-Real would be a surprise, but why not.

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    2. Manchester City - Real on wednesday: A BIG TROUBLE FOR UEFA

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    3. Rizzoli, Rocchi or Proenca will get it I guess.

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  3. Galatasaray - Manchester United

    Referee: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
    Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Alonso Fernandez
    Assistant Referee 2: Juan Carlos Yuste Jimenez
    Fourth Official: Roberto Diaz Perez Del Palomar
    Additional Assistant Referee 1: Cesar Muniz Fernandez
    Additional Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Del Cerro Grande

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  4. I did not receive the observers this time, so if somebody has them, don't hesitate to post them ;)

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  5. UEFA is keeping us in suspense...

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  6. Finally, Eros is out from Kassai's team.
    Excellent decision.

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    1. A logical one actually. Especially after his 2 big mistakes at BVB - Real.

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    2. Yes and now it will be interesting, to watch if Eros will anyway get his ticket for Brazil (giving for sure Kassai presence there), or Kispal will replace him forever.
      Gyogry Ring absolutely deserves to be the first assistant referee.

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  7. Bebek second appointment, very good for him.
    He is going to return the "ancient" Bebek.

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  8. I do not really understand why Bebek is in this match, while Strahonja is in the other one. Corresponding to the groups they are in, it would have made more sense to appoint Strahonja for Spartak-Barca and Bebek for BATE-Lille.
    Replacing Eros was indeed necessary. Mistakes before EURO, during EURO, after EURO, now it was obviously enough.
    Perhaps UEFA replaced Averianov by Golubev due to his mistake at Maribor, which was however extremely difficult to detect.
    Appointing Cakir was the best decision UEFA could make for this match.
    Chefren, could you take Bebek on Tuesday? I am going to watch Juve-Chelsea and perhaps also BATE-Lille.

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    1. Of course, Niclas,
      I will watch Bebek and make a report.

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  9. By the way, this time it definitely would make sense if Dallas or Collina observe Bebek.

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    1. It's his second appointment, and again in Russia.
      I anyway agree with you, sometimes these appointments are made in a strange way.
      Several names for tomorrow: Rizzoli, Rocchi, Tagliavento, Proença. Benqurença (?), Stark.
      By the way, the sentence about Rocchi has been postponed to 5 December, according to last news.

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  10. Bertrand Layec is Bebek's observer

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    1. Thanks a lot. Layec also observed Cakir in Barca-Chelsea last season, so could be that he is Batta's right-hand-man..
      Do you have the other observers as well?

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    2. nordjelland-shaktar karlson bo
      juve-chelsea melo pereira
      valencia-bayern tullinger miroslav
      benfica-celtic jorn west larsen
      borisov-lille casha adrian
      cluj-braga vassaras
      galata-man.utd young william

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    3. Thanks a lot once again!
      Vassaras for Karasev says again everything, also nice to see that Gautier gets another huge chance.

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  11. Predictions

    Porto-Dinamo: Wolfgang Stark (GER)
    Dynamo-PSG: Jonas Eriksson (SWE)
    Schalke-Olympiacos: Björn Kuipers (NED)
    Arsenal-Montpellier: Bas Nijhuis (NED)
    Anderlecht-Milan: Svein Moen (NOR)
    Zenit-Malaga: Craig Thomson (SCO)
    Man City-Real: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
    Ajax-Dortmund: William Collum (SCO)

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  12. Konrad Plautz has Real-Ajax as observer on MD6. A sign for Milorad Mazic?

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    1. Very possible.It is not advisable to publish reviews referee-observer. Mažić had a good performance in the fiery atmosphere (over 100 fans arrested for rioting). The first half without any card. The second is sharpened and showed 5! I think he recognized the nature of the match and 44,500 spectators saw a reversal C.ZVEZDA-PARTIZAN 3:2 (1: 2). We have to note that I do not see more " rigorous " Mažić. It is much more stable and improved communication with players.In Serbia, a country where it is very difficult to be a football referee, Mažić " El Clasico " the court of common, and many have completed a career after this match. Milovan Ristić had a great decision at 0:1!And another Mažić fitness performance are better than 70 % players in Serbia.

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    2. Hehe that might be, his fitness was always very good. And I also agree on his visible improvement in terms of communication. By the way, according to Carlos, Plautz published this info himself at his facebook account.

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  13. Great season for Croatian referees. Strahonja is first Croatian who refereed three matches in the same season in CL. This is also first time we got two referees in the same season in CL, also in the same Matchday. Considering this appointment, Vassaras gave Bebek 8.4 or more for Zenit-Anderlecht, I don't think they would appoint cat1 referee in second match without very good performance. This could also mean that Bebek will be promoted this winter, I think he deserves it. The same happened to Kralovec: PD, some not so good matches, then Premier category and finaly ED and now he is on the same level as some elite referees, I think Kralovec must be promoted, his "development" is over. Strahonja is appointed to his third match, it looks like UEFA is satisfied with him, so he could also be promoted, I hope very soon :).

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    1. I partly agree with you - of course, it's a fantastic season for Croatian refereeing. Normally their influence is not that huge on UEFA level (on FIFA level, it's higher). Strahonja has shown his skills many times, his last match was however weak, when Bo Karlsson observed him. Now he gets Adrian Casha of Malta, who has his first match as observer at all. What does this mean? Either, they are satisfied, there is hence no need anymore to send a committee member, or it's just due to the low level of the match, probably it's a mixture of both. I do however not believe that Strahonja is ready for Elite, I would wait until summer or winter 2013. He should get a r16 or qf match in EL though.
      And concerning Bebek, his come-back is certainly amazing. If Vassaras classified the possible penalty after his given penalty in Zenit-RSCA as NO penalty (=correct decision), then an 8.4 would be absolutely justified, but not more. In addition, we have already touched on the facts that Lannoy, Gräfe, Fernández were/are out due to injury, that Stark was probably suspended for MD3 and 4, that Nijhuis, Rasmussen and many others made crucial mistakes. So it is logical that UEFA has to include many First Group referees, this is a tendency already insinuated last season, now it has intensified. So I do not want to lower Bebek's commitment, but one has to consider all these things always under the given conditions and keep them in mind (also concerns the very high number of First Group and ED officials with 2 or 3 matches.

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  14. Chefren, what did happen in Bologna-US Palermo? Valeri issued 4 red cards.

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    1. 4 red cards and 2 penalties.

      First penalty in first half: handball and YC, correct decision, Bologna scored the 1-0.
      At the beginning of second half, red card to Ujkani (Palermo keeper) for a DOGSO and penalty. Here the decision can appear controversial, because Glardino (the fouled player) was able to score just a few seconds after the whistle. Therefore, it was probably a missed advantage by Valeri, but you know how much difficult is to give advantage in penalty area, you have to be immediatly sure of the goal scored, otherwise, you can't skip the penalty. This situation is the last in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcHuOxQRSQ It was the 3-0 by home team.
      Other 2 red cards (1 for each team) were for double yellow, and correct decisions.
      The last (straight) red of the match was for a terrible foul by Labrin (Palermo). Raised foot, hitting the upper leg of the opponent (something like martial arts). 100% correct decision.

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    2. Sorry, the first penalty (Handbal and YC in first half was the 2-0 not the 1-0).
      Another news from serie A today: FC Internazionale is in silence for the press, after a crucial mistake by Giacomelli in Inter-Cagiari today. In the last minutes (92' or 93') the referee (new in serie A this year) missed a clear foul that was a penalty. Score was 2-2 and the match ended in a big turmoil with Stramaccioni (coah) sent off, too.

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    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_rsfc7eAVe4

      previous video was deleted

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    4. Thanks a lot. The decisions one could watch in these videos are correct.
      In Germany, it's a very long time ago when there were four reds in one match (I mean it's Wolfsburg-Hamburg in 2007 or so (Kinhöfer)).

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  15. FC Schalke 04 - Olympiacos: B. Kuipers (Ned).

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  16. Arsenal - Montpellier Aydinus (TUR)

    Marseille - Fenerbahçe (EL) Atkinson (ENG)

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  17. Gianluca Rocchi (Ita) for the clash in Manchester between Man City and Real Madrid. Pedro Proença again in charge of a Dutch-German confrontation between Ajax and Dortmund.

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  18. Makkelie for Newcasle-Maritimo.

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  19. Ok, now the remaining names for Matchday 6 should be:

    Mark Clattenburg (ENG)
    Olegario Benquerença (POR) waiting for his performance, it could be possible a second appointment
    Felix Brych (GER) confirmed
    William Collum (SCO)
    Craig Thomson (SCO)
    Jonas Eriksson (SWE)
    Svein Oddvar Moen (NOR)
    Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
    Daniele Orsato (ITA)
    Alberto Undiano Mallenco (ESP)
    Milorad Mazic (SRB) confirmed
    Pavel Kralovec (CZE)
    Aleksandar Stavrev (MKD)
    Tom Harald Hagen(NOR)
    Stanslav Todorov (BUL) confirmed
    Tony Chapron (FRA)

    16 names for 16 matches, I consider Borbalan and Lannoy still injured.
    The only name out without reason is Nijhuis, by the way I see Europa League for him.

    What do you think, Niclas?
    Is that possible?


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    1. Nijhuis will be in charge of a CL match on December 5th.

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    2. Very interesting.
      Then
      OUT Undiano
      IN Nijhuis

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  20. Very sensible appointments. I am going to comment on them later on.
    (You forgot Aytekin).

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    1. Sorry, I did a big mistake.
      Ok, then:
      IN Aytekin
      OUT Chapron

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  21. I would erase Benquerenca, Stavrev and Hagen and give Aytekin, Chapron and Nijhuis the matches you have missed.

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  22. Now a first comment on the referee observer at Porto.
    Francesco Bianchi is a famous one actually. Have a look what he observed in the past:

    Bianchi Francesco SUI CL 10/11 GS MSK-SPA Blom
    Bianchi Francesco SUI CL 10/11 QF SHA-BAR Meyer
    Bianchi Francesco SUI CL 11/12 GS BEN-MNU Skomina
    Bianchi Francesco SUI CL 11/12 GS CSK-LIL Kralovec
    Bianchi Francesco SUI EL 10/11 GS PSG-DOR Kralovec
    Bianchi Francesco SUI EL 11/12 GS BIR-BRU Borski
    Bianchi Francesco SUI EL 11/12 R32 ATL-LAZ Atkinson
    Bianchi Francesco SUI EL 11/12 QF ATH-S04 Rizzoli
    Bianchi Francesco SUI EL 12/13 GS LYO-SPA Boiko
    Bianchi Francesco SUI EL 12/13 GS DNI-NAP Göcek


    And now he gets Tagliavento. Why? It is an unimportant match, they could have sent a less important observer and lower classified ref. But they did not. My theory (without any proof of course): Tagliavento was evaluated badly at Dortmund (perhaps crucial mistake, was not that clear then), and then he had nearly no control in Galatasaray-Cluj. He furthermore made at least 2 crucial mistakes. So probably a mark <7.8. If so, this might be an important test. A test for what? Perhaps to confirm that his promotion was justified, I mean, Orsato is waiting behind him...what do you think (specially Chefren)?

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    1. Mmhh it's diffcult to give a right answer here, Niclas.
      I partially agree with what you wrote.
      First of all, we don't know the importance of observers when they are not committee's members, therefore the fact that Francesco Bianchi is more famous than other colleagues, could mean everything or... nothing.
      By the way the list that you have reported above is surely significative.
      Having said that, we have to add other things.
      It's true that he did crucial mistakes in Galatasaray-Cluj, I don't know so much about the previous match in Dortmund, you watched it. So, UEFA wants maybe to understand if he is ready now to get appointments in the knockout stage.
      Another important fact is that he is back from a terrible Juventus-Inter here in serie A, he has never been appointed again, and tbhis is his first match after two weeks and more.
      So, for sure a particular moment for him.
      I close my analysis saying that anyway he isn't in a possible danger for a demotion, absolutely.
      And my guess is that only Rizzoli and Rocchi will get important matches in CL starting from KO stage.

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    2. Maybe now is more clear who will might get this season Final at Wembley.
      Let be honest Cakir again with top clash and Skomina with not very good game in Anderleacht(althought quite important) so interesting.

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    3. I agree with you Chefren with regard to those Italian referees who will get the important clashes. I just meant that he really could be in "danger" to be demoted, perhaps not in December, but after that. Rocchi is in his best moment on the pitch, Rizzoli's position should not been questioned despite some ups-and-downs in the past months, and then there is Orsato who has really run through UEFA's category system without stop. If he continues that in the same pace, he has to be Elite soon. And I cannot imagine 4 Italians in the Elite Group, even if that was deserved.

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    4. @ Niclas: 4 referees of the same country in the ELITE group are not possible. This is a rule by UEFA itself. So if Orsato is going to be promoted, then another ref from Italy (most likely Tagliavento) has to leave. But I think this will happen next sumer if at all. The same counts in my opinion for a possible promotion of Strahonja, Aydinus and other refs from ED who got three CL group stage matches. UEFA will give them K.O. stage matches of EL (ex. round of 16) to test them. The same happened with Collum, Schörgenhofer and others 1 or 2 years ago. So I think big changes will happen next summer.

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    5. @Steven.

      Statistically however UEFA doesn't make many changes on June (at least since Collina is in charge).

      Last June only Collum was promoted to Elite. And Vad to ED.
      June 2011: Cakir was the only referee promoted to Elite and Kralovec to ED.

      On the contrary:
      December 2011: 2 promotions to Elite (Tagliavento and Clattenburg) and 11 promotions to ED.
      December 2010: 3 promotions to Elite (Carballo, Moen, Nikolaev) and 3 to ED (Schorgenhofer, Clattenburg, Tagliavento) and Bebek moved to then Premier Category.

      So I believe that those who will stay in ED will have another year before a possible promotion.

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    6. @Edwad: You are right. But we know that Collina always has some new ideas, so it could be possible that this "rule" will be broken as well ;)

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    7. I don't think it is a rule. Just reality. Referees from ED and First Category don't have many chances to develop at the knock-out stages of EL mostly because the games are so little. If you count the fact that from EL 16 most of the Elite referees comes in the mix then only 4-5 from the 15 ED referees can anticipate an appointment.
      So probably UEFA wants to be certain of the promoted referees. That's why most ED get 3 CL group stage matches.

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  23. One also must constitute something now, does not matter who will get the final (I by the way still count Brych to one of the favourites, even though Stark had a final as German last year).
    Cakir and Skomina have now shown many convincing CL matches in a row, I can hardly remember a really obvious crucial mistake. Many good matches, many sonorous teams and they always showed good performances, so both should be considered as excellent choices for a potential final. And imagine AC Milan lose, so as you said, this match in Anderlecht is crucial for this group, too.

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    1. tHANKS

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    2. Dear all,

      I'm an italian referee for young and not professional tournaments; thank you very much for your comment and very interesting remarks about worrld referee. ARe you referees ?
      Just a question: WHY c. a. AMARILLA DEMARQUI(TOP CONMBOL) is not in the pre-list for Brasil 2014 ?
      Thanks

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    3. Thanks for your comment, I think most of us are referees themselves.
      Concerning your question about Amarilla. I can only present our co-blogger Carlos' opinion here, who - as South American - follows CONMEBOL surely much closer. His performances seem to be way too weak, that's the whole reason.

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    4. Thanks Niclas for you reply on Amarilla; I red a couple of south america web site and I understood about his outstanding carrier, maybe you are more informed than me. And in Europe (which is already detailed described) what do you think about Nikolaev, Kelly, Jacobsson, Alon and Gumienny. TRhey seem downgrade respect last year.

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    5. Difficult..perhaps some of the others can say something on that as well, as I did not watch all their international performances.
      Nikolaev showed 2 very weak performances in 2010/11, a successful U17 WC, an average CL match with Collina as observer (you know what this means) and he was relegated. Probably it was the mere performance principle, perhaps Rosetti had an influence as well as it was the time when he started being Russia's refereeing chief.
      I will never understand Kelly's demotion, he showed solid and good performances, compared to other ones from this region who were then even promoted to Elite, he showed more consistent performances actually (had also the chance to see him live at Schalke-Plzen). Probably it was due to the fact that he had noone behind him who could have pushed him, but to be honest, it was clear that Kelly will never appear in an important K.O. match of CL.
      Jakobsson and Yefet seem to be experienced men, they however had their difficulties as well, here I cannot say too much..
      And finally Gumienny who more or less destroyed his career with 2 "no-control-matches" (Sevilla-Hannover, Sporting-Lazio).

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  24. Have you by the way checked Valeri's assistants? Stefani and Faverani..

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    1. I was waiting for your post about EL appointments, many things to say.
      Faverani and Stefani in order to help Valeri at his debut, I think a good choice, even though in the last times Faverani and Stefani are showing some mistakes, after the ones I said to you in Genoa-Napoli, Faverani did two mistakes last saturday in Juventus-Lazio with Orsato.

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    2. The intention surely is complete confidence and experience for/behind Valeri.
      Ok, I am going to upload the appts tomorrow, then we can continue discussing on EL.

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  25. Regarding the CL final, my favourites at the moment are:
    1. Cakir (the best in this year)
    2. Rocchi or Rizzoli (it' s time for an Italian again, especially with Collina)
    3. Skomina (good performances, but maybe should get a semifinal first)
    Outsider chances for: Kuipers, Eriksson, Moen
    Brych, Velasco (and Undiano?) are also possible, but it is likely, a team from their country will be in the final, and referees from their country had finals in the last two years.

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    1. Agree, would however switch both Italians with Skomina and those "outsider chances" for Kuipers and Eriksson must be very small in this season. I think Kuipers has already reached his peak. Moen should get EL final.

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    2. Hi Niclas,
      Kuipers at his peak?
      Have you seen him in the last 2 CL matches PSG-Dyn K and Celtic-Barca? He is getting better and better! Big personality. I think he is one of the candidaties together with Cakir.

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    3. I only saw his performance in Celtic-Barca. He is a good referee, but I cannot imagine UEFA assigns him for a CL final. But that's just a feeling.

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  26. I also want to highlight the debut of Rene Eisner, he should get a very important observer of the format Oguz Sarvan or Kaj Natri (if you understand what I mean with "format").
    And Koukoulakis is already familiar with this type of match, Steaua-Stuttgart. He had Steaua-Schalke one year ago. But the match is this time played in Bucharest, last year they had to switch to Cluj-Napoca.

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    1. About Eisner: absolutely unexpected, if you take a look at his palmares, he has never refereed a play off in EL or CL, only preliminary rounds.
      I think that UEFA is looking for new talents, also from Austria, an important country. After Einwaller retirement, and Schorgenhofer not still loved by committee... maybe our friend from Vienna, Peter can help us with interesting info, if he is reading.

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  27. DRAGAN NIKOLOVSKI:
    Although it's maybe early for this news, I can inform you that ALEKSANDAR STAVREV (MKD) will officiate his 3rd match in UCL Group stage his season on Matchday 6 (4/5 December)

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  28. 1. I'm extremely excited in Rizzoli/Rocchi duel! Now it seems Rocchi is even higher.
    2. The change in Kassai's team is finally done. Very good decision!
    3. I predict Benquerenca, Lannoy and Grafe will stay in their categories. It would be very unfair to demote them only due to injury... (By the way, Lannoy whistled Coupe de France last week)
    4. Interesting to see both Croatians, maybe final fight for ED group?
    5. I always was against Tagliavento in Elite. He has no charisma, no personality, poor style and poor calls (especially last time). I don't remember his 100% good performance and any referee from confederations like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Greece would never get Elite Category being so average like Tagliavento. I have also my doubts regarding Orsato. But I like more him than Tagliavento. Don't like this stupid policy pushing committee members... It's unfair and any polite speech won't change my point of view.
    6. Kralovec and Mazić surely Elite - Tagliavento surely out (but I doubt in the last thing...) Also I can't understand why Florian Meyer never was consider as really Elite referee (more EL matches). He's really good ref.
    7. My final predictions: 1. Skomina, 2. Cakir, 3. Rocchi. Sorry Niclas, but absolutely no Brych after poor last performances and let's be serious Skomina and Cakir are far better referees than Brych regarding style, personality and authority.

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    1. Very good analysis, Yun! ;)

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    2. At the moment, Cakir and Skomina have shown better performances, at least considering their last 7,8 matches. Concerning Brych, it is somehow strange because I agree he had weaker performances in the last months including BRA-HON (although he said in dfb newspaper that they did nonetheless well in this extremely hard quarterfinal). So just take into account what UEFA saw last year with 6 CL performances which were mostly good and the semifinal even very good, a match with this background. That's just what UEFA could interest. And it is slightly strange because he now is not that good as we know him internationally, but in Bundesliga, he is with Stark and Kircher by far the best in this season (that was not always the case, he actually was always better int. then nationally.

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  29. Nic/Chef

    I did forewarn about Tagliavento ….

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  30. De Marco has been my favourite Italian, just above Orsato, the last 18 months or so

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    1. I think that De Marco is going to be took off from the FIFA list.
      Never a decent appointment in 6 years of badge... and of course in these situations, one can also think that it isn't his fault at all.

      No trust in him.

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  31. HELLO
    what do you think about Layec??
    good and important observer??
    thank you

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    1. I would consider him somewhat important observer. Was if I remember correctly an observer in UCL Quarter or Semi last year and by being head of refereeing in France he should be quite important, think he is trusted by Uilenberg.
      br
      anonymous for now.

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    2. Layec Bertrand FRA CL 11/12 GS BEN-BAS Velasco Carballo
      Layec Bertrand FRA CL 11/12 SF BAR-CHE Cakir
      Layec Bertrand FRA EL 11/12 GS HAP-RBU Kaasik
      Layec Bertrand FRA EL 11/12 R16 UDI-AZA Mazic
      Layec Bertrand FRA EL 12/13 GS VFB-KOB Soares Dias

      == IMPORTANT

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  32. Al Hilal - Al Ahli
    Michael Weiner - Markus Häcker, Norbert Grudzinski

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  33. The speech about Tagliavento and Orsato is partially true. If Orsato is going to be promoted in Elite, then Tagliavento has to leave the category.
    UEFA surely is aware of that. By the way, Tagliavento is a Elite referee since a too short time, therefore I believe that (and it was said also by other people here) never will change at least until December 2013.

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  34. Europa League, matchday 5:

    Anji-Udinese: Serge Gumienny (BEL)
    Rubin-Internazionale: Tommy Skjerven (NOR)
    Neftçi-Partizan: Simon Lee Evans (WAL)
    Sparta Praha-Lyon: Anastassios Kakos (GRE)
    H. Kiryat Shmona-Athletic: Rene Eisner (AUT)
    Panathinaikos-Maribor: Laurent Duhamel (FRA)
    Lazio-Tottenham: Fernando Teixeira (ESP)
    Rosenborg-Rapid Wien: Gediminas Mažeika (LTU)
    Metalist-Leverkusen: Cristian Balaj (ROU)
    Helsingborg-Levante: Alan Kelly (IRL)
    Hannover-Twente: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
    Videoton-Genk: Liran Liany (ISR)
    Basel-Sporting: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
    Liverpool-Young Boys: Alon Yefet (ISR)
    Atlético-H. Tel-Aviv: Martin Hansson (SWE)
    Académica-Plzeň: Marcin Borski (POL)
    Mönchengladbach-AEL: Bobby Madden (SCO)
    Marseille-Fenerbahçe: Martin Atkinson (ENG)
    Newcastle-Marítimo: Danny Makkelie (NED)
    Club Brugge-Bordeaux: Florian Meyer (GER)
    Steaua-Stuttgart: Michael Koukoulakis (GRE)
    Molde-København: Michael Oliver (ENG)
    PSV-Dnipro: Carlos Gómez (ESP)
    AIK-Napoli: Ovidiu Alin Hategan (ROU)

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  35. Hi NORGE-REFES TOMMY SKJERVEN last-metches in karieree FIFA-REFEREE . GOOD-BYE 45 YEARS

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  36. Marc Batta observes Borski, I think that does say everything.
    You know, it's kind of confirmation of the work we do having detected exactly this circumstance, that Borski showed two performances below 7.8, that his slot is in danger and Gil will probably replace him; but in the end, it is more a really bad sign for Borski himself than a good sign for us.

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  37. And Alain Hamer starts working as referee observer! He has Madden in Gladbach.
    Furthermore, Stephen Lodge for Valeri, I would have expected a committee member here.

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  38. Rune Pedersen for Hategan, Niclas.... ;)

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  39. Alfo the former Albanian FIFA referee Sokol Jaereci is now a UEFA observer.

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  40. Siegfried Kirschen (GER) for Eisner.
    Niclas, can you explain that? :)

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  41. No, I can only say that Kirschen had already one Austrian this EL season: Schörgenhofer in Marítimo. Pedersen is also important, remember he had Kruzliak and some others:

    Pedersen Rune NOR CL 10/11 GS KOB-KAZ Einwaller
    Pedersen Rune NOR CL 10/11 GS KOB-BAR Balaj
    Pedersen Rune NOR CL 10/11 QF BAR-SHA Thomson
    Pedersen Rune NOR CL 11/12 GS CIT-VIL Kralovec
    Pedersen Rune NOR CL 11/12 GS BAT-PLZ Blom
    Pedersen Rune NOR CL 12/13 GS MIL-AND Collum
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 10/11 GS STE-LIV Yildirim
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 10/11 R32 KYI-BES Chapron
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 10/11 SF BRA-BEN Atkinson
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 11/12 GS LEG-HAP Ennjimi
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 11/12 GS KAZ-OLY Mazic
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 11/12 R16 ATH-MNU Cakir
    Pedersen Rune NOR EL 12/13 GS MAR-GLA Kruzliak

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  42. Tagliavento is the best italian referee in Italy serie A, he has more charisma then other three italian referees Rocchi, Rizzoli and Orsato . He is after Rocchi and Rizzoli, and however he didn't has the best matches.

    Orsato is the new and he could became the future for european referee world. And we can see Valeri in the same prospect.

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  43. Good performance shown by Bebek. I don't want to unveil too much before Chefren's report, good dive-yellow-card, very fair match but an unnecessarily high additional time in a 2nd half without any events. Layec must be content.

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  44. Now two things which I did not see myself, so I rely on a live ticker and the commentary now:

    1. Strahonja's second yellow was described as soft but ok by the ticker.
    2. According to the commentary, there were "officials, who made a photo with Iniesta in the half-time". I do not know whether it concerned venue officials or the match officials, he just said "officials".

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  45. Correct red card shown by Webb (serious foul play).
    Correct red card shown by Karasev (violent conduct).
    Unbelievable scene in Copenhagen: there was a drop-ball, Willian fairly played it to the goalkeeper, but Shakhtar's striker Adriano took the ball and scored, goalkeeper and defenders could not believe it and did not react, even Cano stopped running as he could not get it. It seemed as if Gautier tried to reconcile both sides, and Nordsjaelland were then allowed to score quite easily 2 minutes later...there is again this topic "you cannot force fair-play as a referee"..

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  46. First half of Juventus-Chelsea, crucial call for AAR1 Gocek, he correctly watched that the ball didn't cross the line. But, his position was wrong, according to last UEFA instructions. So, let me be honest, probably he was only lucky ;)
    Overall, until now as always no problems for Cakir, first half in full control.

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    1. He had to change his position I think because Luiz and Cech were in his vicinity if he stayed exactly on the goalline. Anyway, it was a normal post, so probably not that challenging for Göcek in comparison to ITA-IRL e.g.

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    2. In second half, just a situation at the beginning, when Vucinic fell down in penalty area, Cakir decided to let the game flow. No penalty neither simulation, I agree because the touch is really soft and Vucinic falls too theatrically.

      Another match without crucial mistakes and big problems for Cakir, then.
      I think that we should remember all these performance, when on next May the committee will be called to appoint a referee for the final, they must remember how many matches referees were able to handle in a exellent way.

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    3. I agree here as well, a classical "not enough for a penalty". Again a good performance in an intense and very important match. But actually, I did not expect anything else, this ref is just improving with every single performance...

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  47. Niclas, Could you do me a favor? I saw that two Croatian observers were appointed in EL (Poljak for Skjerven), (Vitković for Kelly). Can you see their appointments in last years please and inform me? Thank you :)

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  48. Of course.
    It is Vitkovic's first match as uefa observer according to my collected data since 2010.

    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO CL 10/11 GS BAS-CFR Duhamel
    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO EL 10/11 GS KAR-DOR Circhetta
    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO EL 10/11 GS NAP-LIV Kinhöfer
    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO EL 10/11 GS ARI-ROS Einwaller
    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO EL 10/11 R32 LIL-PSV Tudor
    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO EL 11/12 GS PSG-SAL Banti
    Poljak Dragutin Karlo CRO EL 11/12 GS WIS-FUL Hansson

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  49. I'm watching Bebek now, report to follow soon.
    I just want your opinion abut that:
    http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3081/rynidqt4_jpg.htm
    are you able to recognize who is the keeper and who is the AAR?
    In my opinion, they had to wear a different kit.

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    1. I think, Valdes wore a green shirt, while the referee team had the yellow kit. But I agree, in the picture, it is very similar.
      Generally, the colours of the referees and the keepers have to be different, so they need five colours in UEFA competitions. In Bundesliga, it is less strict, e.g. it happens, that the teams wear blue and black/white and one or both keepers wear yellow. Then the German referees have no problem to wear yellow as well. I think, on UEFA level, the keepers had to change their shirts.

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  50. Ivan Bebek in Spartak Moskva - Barcelona.
    The match was very fair, especially in first half, when referee whistled only 6 fouls. A very rare thing. Neverthless, one of these fouls was a reckless tackle by K. Kombarov (Spartak) in Jordi Albs (Barcelona). It might have been a YC, but Beek decided to give a verbal warning. Acceptable decision, considering the progress of the game until that situation. The crucial call of the whole match happened in the 36' minute of first half, when Pedro Rodriguez (Barcelona) fell down in penalty area after an alleged contact with the keeper. YC for simulaton: correct decision by the referee, the replay showed that Pedro was unfair in his behavior. Decision shared with the Domagoj Vučkov, excellent cooperation. In second half, there were more fouls, and a YC issued to Rafael Caroca (Spartak) at 62', probably for complaints. It happened prior to a corner kick, and 1 minute after a handball whistled against the Russian player. The decision to give 3 minutes as additional time in second half was probably due to 6 substitutions and also a problem for Victor Valdes, the game was suspended for a few time. Here in Italy we accept this decsion, but I understand your doubts, Niclas, since in Bundesliga it's totally different. ;)
    In this additional time there were two YC, to Mascherano (Barcelona) and Källström (Spartak). Here, in my opinion the decision, even though correct, are not consistent with the style adapted in the whole match, and especially in first half. By the way, probably Bebek noticed a change in players behavior.
    Therefore, possible areas of improvement in card management.
    Having said about the first AAR, which was involved in the crucial call, the second one was not involved all match long.
    Assistants were almost perfect: the first, Tomislav Petrović, had important calls to do. Excellent NO FLAG to Iniesta, prior to Messi firsr goal (0-2), another good NO FLAG for Iniesta at the end of first half, correct and very difficult offside call for Ari (Spartak) at 88'.
    Second assistant Miro Grgić: 83' excellent NO FLAG for Messi, 90'+2 Dani Alves offside on a long ball but no replay from tv.

    Bertrand Layec can be proud, by the way, if he wants, there are several important aspects on which Bebek can work.
    Good fitness and no problems in positioning.




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    1. I completely agree with your observations. The final two yellows were indeed evitable. To which mark do you get? Expected level?

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    2. Expected level with some area for improvement, I don't want to say that the match was difficult, it was an easy-going 3-0 in first half, the decision about YC for dive was correctly evaluated, since the AAR1 was there, near the situation, in his place.
      Niclas, can you repost here just the scale of the marks, according to our last changes. I think I have lost it.

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    3. This evening I will watch Skomina

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    4. Yes, it's the official UEFA scale.
      9.0-10.0 Excellent.
      8.5-8.9 Very good, important decision(s) correctly taken.
      8.3/8.4 Expected Level
      8.2 Satisfactory with small areas for impr.
      8.0/8.1 Satisfactory with important areas for impr.
      7.9 One important mistake, otherwise 8.3 or above
      7.8 One important mistake, otherwise 8.0-8.2

      ... the rest is probably not interesting by now. I will post it somewhen as a new page.

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    5. Thanks, the marsk for Bebek is between 8.2 and 8.3 in my opinion.
      If we accept "expected level" in the meaning of "no area for improvement"

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    6. My feeling tells me that it was definitely 8.3, UEFA is not that quick with giving marks highly above or below expected level.

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  51. how can explain this come back??? it is amazing!
    thank you!

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  52. Hapoel Tel Aviv - Athletic Bilbao (Europa League)

    postponed after UEFA was informed about the situation in Israel.

    Here:

    http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1895747.html

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  53. Sensible decision. But it was Hapoel Kiryat (?). Bad for Eisner.

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  54. The previous matchday there was an overview of referee, observer, and delegate appointments of all UEL-matches on this site. Isn't there going to be such an overview for this matchday? I'm really curious, especially of the observer appointments!!

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    1. You can check the observers also on uefa.com itself (google uefa press kits).
      I have no time at the moment to upload that, might sound exaggeratedly, but posting 24 appointments with these grids, logos and match info takes more than an hour.

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    2. Oh okay, I understand. Thank you for the advice!! Didn't know that!!

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  55. Hmm I have strong doubts about Strahonja's sending-off. I just watched it and could not detect a real contact. Would be glad if someone can have a look at it apart from me.

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  56. Benquerenca is a bit pedantic in the first half.

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  57. City - Real: Rocchi

    Arbeloa on Aguero not a penalty - perhaps even a YC for simulation.

    I had 5-7 YC's for Rocchi, but thought Ramos and 2nd YC Arbeloa harsh.

    Great decision to play on in first half when far-side AR raised flag too early - not offside, another phase of play.

    Zab harshly cautioned, but can be given in ECL - though in doing so he left himself open when not booking Silva moments later for same type of challenge - but with more speed - on Benzema.

    Excellent decision by De Marcos in not allowing freekick Kolarov on Arbeloa; not quite simulation but not a foul.


    8.3

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    1. I agree, that the penalty (and 2nd yellow) decision was wrong, at least, it was less contact than in the Ivanovic situation on Tuesday, where Cakir correctly denied a penalty.
      The YC for Ramos was wrong, not even a free kick IMO. I did not understand, why he overruled Cariolato, but your reason could be true.
      I think, he had a very convincing first half (let the game flow, good communication, YCs OK), but made too many mistakes in the second half, most of them against Real. 5 added minutes were very surprising.
      Because of the crucial mistake it can only be a 7.9 IMO.

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    2. I agree with Philipp! But, the rating is 8.1 for me.

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    3. Hi Phillipp

      Yes I am sure that Cariolato flagged for offside far too early hence Rocchi's excellent advantage. If the defender clears or attempts to clear, the second phase begins.

      Agree with 7.9 actually and first half much more composed.

      5 mins was ok as was 1.5 for sending off with Arbeloa complaining and stationary; 4 subs; 5+ cards 2nd half and general stoppage. Mourinho has no reason to sarcastically applaud.

      On another note, who listens to Neville on refereeing? Thoughts?

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  58. Skomina several crudities in Anderlecht - Milan, weird performance.
    Other info to follow tomorrow.

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  59. Kuipers with a good performance, had everything under control and made hardly any mistake. The additional time in the 2nd half was too high.
    Proenca by the way missed a penalty to BVB and issued a wrong yellow card to Götze for alleged diving..

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  60. And the penalty given by Rocchi was in my opinion nothing. Agree with Philipp.

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  61. I have seen Carballo last night. I may easily say that there is a mixed bag. He should have issued a YC to Melo in early mintues of the game for reckless tackle in midfield. He really let physical play, hence missed some fouls in a though game.
    Rocchi's penalty is totally wrong in respect to what Carballo has waved it off as go-on, see Min30. I coudnt find any link to post, sorry. While, saying play-on for a handball appeal in box was correct in Min35. The additional time was very little respect to what is lost.
    Maybe a 8.3 or 8.2, no match deciding mistakes, however some weaknesses...


    Last night, I made a mixture of Aydinus and Skomina;
    To start with; Aydinus didnt have an easy game. He applied some really good advantages which resulted in important attacks, there were too many critical offsides where most of them went correctly. YCs issued were remarkable, match control was ok, hence an 8.4 seemingly.
    Last but not leaast, I really didnt understand why he hadnt whistled that foul in Min68, yes player fell theatretically, but it is a foul in my book. The counter attack is foul and direct RC. I may say if you beieve thats a foul, then it is red.

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    1. Last but not leaast, I really didnt understand why "Skomina" hadnt whistled that foul in Min68, yes player fell theatretically, but it is a foul in my book. The counter attack is foul and direct RC. I may say if you beieve thats a foul, then it is red.

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    2. I totally agree with Cagatay about Skomina.
      I answer also to you, Nikos.
      Skomina again used a dangerous style, he missed several situations, and when he showed the RC to Anderlecht player, he was probably helped by his assistant. The card came a bit later than the whistle. He seemed reluctant.
      My feeling is that Skomina and his style, in a very important and difficult match, could have big problems.
      At the moment, I prefer Cakir far and away. Skomina is overall ok, but he should try to fix these situations. Sometimes, he seems lost in the pitch. He has control, yes, but nevertheless he appears as a too lenient referee.
      Good performance by both assistants.

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    3. I saw the first half by Aydinus and he was good. But he should improve his positioning because there where times when he was too close to the ball.

      I will download the second half and make a report.

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    4. Contrary to what I have then written in the post "Aydinus' quickstart", UEFA seems to have taken a good decision to promote him in this way.

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    5. Can you write a full report about Skomina Chefren beacuse this can already mean that Skomina is losing against Cakir

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    6. I have been saying this for a long time; Rizolli's, Brych's, Cakir's chance is always ahead of Skomina. He should solve the problem of leniency. He always have a roller coaster performance.

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    7. Hello Anonymous (it would be nice to read your name, anyway, or just a nickname),

      maybe in the next days I will be able to write more about this match, but for now I can give to you a "short" answer here. What I like more in Cakir then in Skomina is that Cakir is always sure of his decisions on the pitch and he isn't so much lenient, as instead Skomina very often is.
      In Skomina matches, if players think to play, there aren't problems, instead, if there is a tense match or the players wants just to fight, there are often lacks of control.
      Skomina has a good fitness but I don't know why most of the times he is far from the action. He rely on his assistants, and that's very good for a team work, but he should (in my opinion) show more his authority on the pitch. He has the skill to do that.
      Nevertheless (and probably this is the reason for which UEFA likes him) the crucial calls or the important decisions in his matches, are always the right ones. The straight red card given for DOGSO to the Anderlecht player was discussed, but at the end not wrong.
      I by the way recognze each achievement of this young and very good referee from Slovenia. If UEFA likes him so much, there is a why.

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    8. Thanks Chefren

      For what its worth, I rate Skomina just above Cakir - but to be honest there is little to choose between the very elite: these two, Kassai, Webb, Proenca. In fact Cakir, Skomina and Kassai exhibit very similar practices with regards to application of law and 'letting the game flow' as you say, so Im not sure we can say Skomina is unsure when a game appears to 'rise in tempo' - certainly I have seen Kassai (Arsenal at Porto last season; Spain/Italy in the Euros); Cakir both times in the Bernabeu adopt a far too lenient an approach to these types of high intensity games. So I think the question must be for all 3.

      Though I do accept that Cakir's on-field positioning is superior to Skomina's - perhaps in his country (similar to the UK) he is told to keep 'high and left diagonal'. There is a whole blog to be had on elite referee positioning and lots of theories out there.

      I think we can be sure that either of the aforementioned will get the final (agree Brych dropped considerably) - and according to these very blog pages, Cakir is favoured in general (not just on performance) by UEFA?

      NICLAS - agree with regards Rocchi style - though again, Cakir's over diminutive/dismissive style also needs to be finessed. (poor penalty decision on Aguero for Italian).

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    9. I agree with a lot you said, specially concerning movement. What I like about Cakir is that he is able to adopt his style to the requirements of the match, his leniency does not lead to missed red cards and so on. And I think his interaction with players and quality of calls has improved since last season.
      Furthermore I also underline that Brych decreased the quality of his performances, but on the other hand, you cannot expect that he is able to uphold the high quality of the majority of his cl performances in every match. Additionally, I don't see where UEFA could have doubts about him, giving him 3 K.O. CL matches including the Övrebö-semifinal although he was NOT selected for EURO. Perhaps they gave him too much every now and then, but it was justified. Remember the surprise in 2009 when Brych, as a fresh Elite ref, got Ireland-France in front of 70.000 in Dublin, relegation for WC 2010 and he showed a brilliant performance. His only problem is consistency.

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  62. About Rocchi, now watched the penalty situation.
    The feeling is that the slight contact (this hand on the back of the opponent) was even out of penalty area. But, is that enough to whistle a foul?
    Doubts....

    http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3082/z4ciy5xt_jpg.htm

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  63. I think in general the red card Skomina issued was ok. If there had not been this touch, Pato would have been easily able to pass the ball to the waiting striker. On the other hand, was it an OGSO at all? Probably, if Skomina had shown yellow, I would have said "it should have been even red". So the focus should lay on the not given free-kick before that scene. I did not see a replay so far, whether there was a touch, but let me say I was not surprised that his whistle stayed silent.

    Benquerenca's red card was by the way given due to insulting the referee.

    Lorenzo Manganelli with an excellent onside preceding Porto's 1-0.

    The more I see Arbeloa's "foul" the more ridiculous I find the decision, I have no explanation for whistling such a minimal contact.

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    1. I think that Rocchi had in his mind a contact between the legs of the players, like a minimal kick from the back, but there was anything, only this hand. It was more a dive than a foul, I have to be honest: crucial mistake by Rocchi in a anyway excellent period for him in serie A... Spanish press is destroyng him.

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  64. Sorry I have to correct myself:
    Proenca first gave penalty to BVB, he pointed to the spot (Joao Capela moved to the goal, so he seemed to rely on him). Then, Proenca changed his mind and gave yellow to Götze for a dive. It was the CORRECT decision. Probably Miranda told him so.

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  65. Still about City - Real:

    missed foul on Cristiano Ronaldo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=btAeHlzNtkk

    showman Mourinho (as always)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uoRCkYiyIe0

    By the way, I'm sorry but I have to say that Mourinho's behavior is always unacceptable, here a ironic applause to the referee without any consequence.




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  66. Unfortunately the videos have been deleted due to copyright infringements.
    I am going to make a report next weekend on Rocchi, whose performance I have seen now. Many good aspects, swift and consistent booking, but there is missing something, no real charisma, poor interaction with the players.

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    1. Too many yellow cards.

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    2. They were all justified (Ramos' yc for handball probably was an exception). But he should have improved his proactive match dealing, trying to apply a different approach. I think it's very difficult to find a suitable mark for this performance. Because I have already said once it should not have given a penalty in Man.City (remember Kralovec), and then UEFA was content with the call, so I keep my mouth shut!

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  67. Niclas, do you like Mourinho style as coach on the pitch, especially in his relationships with the match officials?
    I don't know if in Germany, even though he has never coached in Bundesliga, he is famous for his questionable behavior.

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  68. Of course he is. And there are many who hate him for that.
    German referees surely know that as well, at least since 2011 and his friendship with Kinhöfer..

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