December 11, 2012

FIFA Club World Cup 2012 - Match for the 5th place and Semifinals - Referee Appointments


Nawaf Shukrallah of Bahrain in action (c) FLICKR




(KOR) Ulsan Hyundai
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Sanfrecce Hiroshima (JPN)
Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 16:30 JST 
Match for the 5th place - Toyota Stadium, Toyota (Japan)

Referee: Nawaf Shukrallah (BHR)
Assistant Referee 1: Yaser Tulefat (BHR)
Assistant Referee 2: Ebrahim Saleh (BHR)
Fourth Official: Peter O'Leary (NZL)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Mark Rule (NZL)
Blog-Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)


(EGY) Al-Ahly
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Corinthians (BRA)
Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 19:30 JST 
Semifinal 1 - Toyota Stadium, Toyota (Japan)

Referee: Marco Rodríguez (MEX)
Assistant Referee 1: Marvin Torrentera (MEX)
Assistant Referee 2: Marcos Quintero (MEX)
Fourth Official: Alireza Faghani (IRN)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Hassan Kamranifar (IRN)
Blog-Referee Observer: Carlos S. (COL)


(MEX) Monterrey
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Chelsea FC
Chelsea (ENG)
Thursday, 13 December 2012, 19:30 JST 
Semifinal 2 - International Stadium Yokohama, Yokohama (Japan)

Referee: Carlos Vera (ECU)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Lescano (ECU)
Assistant Referee 2: Byron Romero (ECU)
Fourth Official: Alireza Faghani (IRN)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Reza Sokhandan (IRN)
Blog-Referee Observer: Edward A. (GRE)

57 Comments:

  1. For those who want to watch Cakir's full match:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewsKkew8pE

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    1. Have you seen Ulsan goal? ;) ahah

      By the way, Cakir showed 4 cards, 2 were for complaints and 2 for fouls.
      Assistants were busy.

      First important call was prior to 0-1 by Monterrey. Excellent NO FLAG by assistant 1 Bahattin Duran:
      http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3101/7tzarpkw_jpg.htm

      Another crucial call was at 55' when Tarik Ongun disallowed a gol by Monterrey for this offside position:
      http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3101/ssaxze7b_jpg.htm
      Here we can't be sure, but it seems offside, even though slight.

      Furthermore, excellent double NO FLAG (again Duran) when Monterrey scored the 2-0. Mexican players were in a very borderline position to evaluate.

      Waiting for Maia full report, this is what I was able to point out.


      My comment about the revealed appointments: O'Leary the only referee still without a match but it's a good choice because they know him and so the committee had to evaluate well the other officials. My guess for Chelsea match is Haimoudi.

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    2. Sorry, the double excellent no flag in the 0-2 action was by Ongun, not Duran, of course.

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  2. Who is in Monterrey-Chelsea? Haimoudi?

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  3. Not known yet, but it seems probable.

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  4. On Sunday, terrific derby Galatasaray-Fenerbahce is on stage.
    And Turkish Refereeing body tries to select the referee. There are most probably three alternatives;

    Yunus Yıldırım, Halis Ozkahya and Ozgur Yankaya

    It is really tough to decide, and it seems Ozkahya may get his first pride to handle it. That will not be easy, IMO his performance will be under Uilenberg's eye. This may help UEFA to decide whether to promote him to Cat.1
    But to me, Yunus Yıldırım would be a safer choice.

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    1. Thats Ozkahya...
      Well, it is his milestone IMO.
      Hope, he does his best..

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    2. One should note that...
      Remarkably good performance in a relatively rough/tough game..

      RC for Raul Meireles was totally right. Good foul decisions around box, pricise grip.
      He has gained a new supporter for his cat.1 replacement with Bulent Yildirim. Hope that UEFA would discover.

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  5. Interesting, anyway I think that two EL group stage matches of minor relevance are not enough for a promotion to First Group. Others should be first, like Tohver or Munukka etc.

    Manfred Amerell has died. Remember, he was the DFB referee mentor who was accused by Michael Kempter to have sexually abused him.

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    1. Where is Michael Kempter refereeing now? I have not heard much about him after that scandal. He was consider a big talent at some point...

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    2. Any news about Schiffner? Would he be able to re-join Brych in 2013 or Lupp will continue as his AR?

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    3. Kempter has started at the lowest league in his football federation and tries to start a new career.
      Schiffner is still injured, but there will be no changes on Germany's FIFA Assistant List, so they must consider him as able to come back soon.

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    4. Lowest league? He referees in the Oberliga, the 5th division in Germany.
      If he is assessed like any other referee, he should be promoted to the higher leagues very fast, because I don't think he lost many of his abilities.

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    5. Was he forced by DFB to go down to Oberliga or it was his choice after the scandal with Amerell? If I recall correctly, he was the youngest German FIFA referee in 2010 and just got appointed to an UEFA tournament before the scandal surfaced...

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    6. 5th? I did not get that, but of course you are right. And that's right, in November 2009 I think he consulted Volker Roth and talked about the things with him, in January 2010 he had a Bundesliga match with the FIFA badge on the breast (Schalke-Nürnberg), and then everything developed.

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    7. Forced by DFB. He had a one match comeback in April 2010 in the 3rd division, but then new allegations came up and he had to pause until the beginning of this season. DFB took him off their lists, but the regional federation gives him matches in their highest league.

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    8. And these allegations were, among others, e-mails from Kempter to Amerell stating that he hoped Bayern would lose in a then pending CL match vs Milan (if you remember, Mejuto had it).

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    9. Is he now on the DFB list or just referee with the regional federation? What level is currently his brother, Robert? Philipp and Niclas, you obviously know the Kempter situation much better, so what is your opinion on both Kempter brothers as referees and whether any of them can reach higher levels? Or are they compromised for ever?

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    10. Michael K. is 29 at the moment I think, so it could be difficult for him to continue his amazing career, but I doubt he will not lose his refereeing skills only due to this affair. Robert K. is very young, born in 1988. Of course he seems to be one day ready for higher tasks, at the moment, he is a referee in 2nd Bundesliga and mostly gets average matches and shows average performances, personally, I like him more as an assistant referee in Bundesliga, mostly at Knut Kircher's and Stefan Lupp's side. These three were honoured by DFB as team of the season 2011/12.

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  6. Hi SUKRALLAH in metches 5 place. Vera & Rodriguez in 1\2 final. HAIMOUDI, O'LEARY & CAKIR metches in 3 place \ final?

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  7. Depends on Chelsea's result tomorrow. I would say O'Leary for 3rd and Shukralla for the final.

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  8. Shukralla with a good performance in my opinion.

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    1. My download has started just now.
      Report redy maybe for this evening, for sure for tomorrow.
      :)

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  9. The second appointment of Vera I think that can be read in this way: he is the only referee among the 6 at his first FIFA tournament, so the decsion to appoint him twice is correct, also in order to evaluate better some decisions taken in his first match.
    Now, for the final, it seems to me a question between Cakir (but very very diffcult due to Chelsea) and Haimoudi. I think that the Algerian has a big chance because he did well, but also here we have to wait the result of the semifinal involving the African team from Egypt.
    In case of final between Chelsea and Al-Ahly, I would put on the middle Shukralla and not Rodriguez.
    Furthermore, O'Leary for the third place match is sure.

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  10. Rodriguez ended the first half without cards.
    That's a piece of news.

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  11. Right :D And I am sure he has already run his 6 or 7 kilometres, a slightly exaggerated movement for my taste. Missed a couple of fouls, nothing else happened actually..

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  12. FIFA machcast is stopped at the end of first half.
    What happened?
    I see that the second haf was regularly played and ended with the same result.
    By the way, Al Ahly is out, Haimoudi has his big chance now. I think that an African referee officiating a FIFA tournament final is missing since Belqola in 1998 WC. Now it could be the right time... do you agree?

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  13. Rodriguez was obviously told by someone important that he's gotta change from his usual (very card heavy, pedantic) style, and try to let the game flow a little more, with less cards. He achieved giving less cards more or less haphazardly. There should have been at least a couple of cards; marco was clearly avoiding giving cards (blatant kicking the ball away around 90' and many fouls you could easily call breaking up a promising attack and/or reckless). He still did not let the game flow very well because his foul calls were very inconsistent, and this lead to him missing quite a few fouls. His style has always been a big problem in my mind (he pulls it off in mexico as the star of the show) but it's obvious somebody important told him he's gotta change or else his future is not so bright. I think he obviously was different tonight, but I don't know if it was any better. I still think Garcia will be best for Brzail 2014, without Rodriguez. We will see what FIFA decides...

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    1. I believe this was his first ever match with no cards!!!

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  14. I agree with every word.

    @ Chefren: might be, but I see Shukrallah having more chances actually.

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    1. Now finished t watch the first half.
      Some impression prior to begin to watch the second: Shukralla did a very good impression, as many AFC referees use to do, he is very attentive during the set pieces (corners, free kicks). He is also very attentive to the play having an excellent use of the adavantage. Very good help also by assistants.
      Excellent interaction with players.
      Now, second half.

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    2. I think that he is going to reach a very good mark, if in second half we did well too

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  15. Carlos Vera for Monterey Chelsea

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  16. What happened in São Paulo - Tigre, 2nd leg of the Copa Sudamericana final?
    Osses on the middle.
    The second half was not played!
    Maybe Caros and Maya can help us. It seems that Tigre players were threatened with a gun in the half time?
    Terrible to hear that.

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  17. Excellent NO FLAG prior to Corinthians goal by Marcos Quintero.
    http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3103/gxt8vgok_jpg.htm
    Very diffcult because there was a player in clear offside and the situation was borderline.

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  18. Very good first half by Vera. Minimal infractions, no cards and a very good use of the advantage rule. Some minor technical observations but nothing that affects the match. Excellent assistants.

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  19. Unbelievable. 7 yellows and one red card within 12 minutes of the first half of Sudamericana final. Something went wrong there.

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  20. No need of a referee anymore at the semifinal.

    Monterrey - Chelsea 0-3 (min. 50)

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  21. So the final choice is between Haimoudi and Shukralla.
    I don't think Rodriguez... and O'Leary for the third place match

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  22. Comparing both performances in this tournament and their context with regard to the world cup, Shukralla should get the final.

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  23. BTW Chefren, did you receive my mail?

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  24. Do you mean the mail that you wrote yesterday?
    Yes, I have answered this morning.

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    1. To be sure, I'm going to send the reply again.

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    2. Crap, nothing arrived :( Ok.

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    3. I think that there is a problem there.
      Also in the past I have sent other mails without a reply, i thought you were too busy to answer, but now it seems clear that sometimes the system doesn't work.
      Now, it would be nice to understand the reason.

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  25. http://internationalreferee.blogspot.com.br/2012/12/designaciones-copa-mundial-de-clubes_13.html

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    1. Absolutely unexpected and probably a signal of the new FIFA policy.
      Happy for him, because it's our (I mean European) referee.
      It's one of the first UEFA referees to handle this fnal, if not the first ever. Maybe they wanted also to break these rules, but something is changing for sure.
      I hope that there will be no complaints from CONMEBOL.

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    2. TBH Cakir was the safiest pair of hands. Even thought he doesn't have much experience from FIFA tournaments on the other hand his progress and stability are extraordinary. Good luck to him.

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    3. Not sure why you mentioned about "breaking the rules"? Are there such rules? Where have you seen such official, written rules? Also, historically, there were 7 FIFA World Cup finals with non-neutral referees.

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    4. Since 2009, there has been a change. In every FIFA tournament including CWC, WC, u20-WC and u17-WC, there was continental neutrality (round about 300 fifa matches are concerned..)

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    5. I am asking again: is anyone aware of such official, written rules? If yes, please provide a proof (document, link, etc). If not, it means that FIFA was just looking for neutral referees, without following any official rules.
      Maybe this time, FIFA had no confidence in the neutral referees, so they appointed the best referee, regardless of his confederation.

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    6. Also, no one is testing referees in a final. There are other matches where they can be tested. The referees in the final should always be the best referees at that moment, having been previously tested in other competitions (i.e. Cakir in UCL and Euro).

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    7. Anonymous, if your first question was for me, of course in my message I meant (not written) rules: they tried to appoint always a referees from a different confederation, but of course it wasn't a forced rule, just a preference by committee.

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    8. Yes, the tendency during the past tournaments was clear. However, I often stated in the blog that I am opposed to continental neutrality, as referees are neutral, FIFA must expect that. Perhaps they just try to do it whenever possible to impede unnecessary medial attention. And of course we do not have the same level of insights in FIFA like in UEFA, so we don't have an internal document or so. If you have a FIFA committee source or so, give it to me ! ;)
      Cakir is an excellent choice for the final, without any doubt.

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    9. *sry, I of course meant "confederation neutrality"..

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  26. Only for Chefren: FIFA is kidding us :P

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    1. You are absolutely right, Niclas.
      I'm shocked, I have to be honest, Cakir unexpecteed but of course deserved.

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