November 24, 2013

Champions League - Referee Appointments - Matchday 5 (Tuesday)

These are the referee appointments for Tuesday's matches of UEFA Champions League involving First Group referee Antonio Mateu Lahoz who will attend Emirates Stadium in London.



Group E, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: National Arena, Bucharest (ROU)
Steaua Bucuresti - FC Schalke 04
Referee: Bas Nijhuis (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Rob van de Ven (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Charles John Schaap (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Ed Janssen (NED)
Fourth Official: Davie Goossens (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jozef Marko (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj (ESP)
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

Group E, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: St. Jakob-Park, Basel (SUI)
FC Basel - Chelsea FC
Referee: Stéphane Lannoy (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Frédéric Cano (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Michaël Annonier (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Fredy Fautrel (FRA)
Fourth Official: Éric Dansault (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA)
Blog Referee Observer: Johnny (SRB) 

Group F, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: Emirates Stadium, London (ENG)
Arsenal FC - Olympique Marseille
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devis (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Javier Aguilar Rodríguez (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Carlos Clos Gómez (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Javier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Mikkelsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Léon Schelings (BEL)
Blog Referee Observer: Hagi (GER)

Group F, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: Westfalenstadion, Dortmund (GER)
Borussia Dortmund - SSC Napoli
Referee: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Fernández Miranda (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Zdravko Jokić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)
Blog Referee Observer: Thomas H. (NED)

Group G, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: Estádio do Dragao, Porto (POR)
FC Porto - Austria Wien
Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hategan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Cristian Nica (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Octavian Sovre (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Alexandru Tudor (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Coltescu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ghinguleac (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Bontcho Todorov (BUL)
Blog Referee Observer: Nur H. (ENG)

Group G, 26 November 2013, 18:00 CET
Stadium: Petrovskiy Stadium, St.Petersburg (RUS)
Zenit St. Petersburg - Atlético Madrid
Referee: Martin Atkinson (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Peter Kirkup (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Long (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Mike Dean (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Kevin Friend (ENG)
Fourth Official: Michael Mullarkey (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Jean-Paul Mievis (BEL)
Blog Referee Observer: Philipp (GER)

Group H, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: Celtic Park, Glasgow (SCO)
Celtic Glasgow - AC Milan
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barıš Šimšek (TUR)
Fourth Official: Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: João Morais (POR)
Blog Referee Observer: Edward (GRE)

Group H, 26 November 2013, 20:45 CET
Stadium: Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam (NED)
Ajax Amsterdam - FC Barcelona
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Roman Slyško (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Martin Wilczek (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Radek Prihoda (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Michal Patak (CZE)
Fourth Official: Antonin Kordula (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jean Lemmer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Roy Cathcart (NIR)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

102 Comments:

  1. Unexpected and nice appointment for Lahoz.
    Mikkelsen, after Undiano Mallenco, will observe another Spanish official.
    Crucial test for Nijhuis...

    ReplyDelete
  2. And Fernández Marín has been sent to Glasgow instead of Leverkusen. There seems to have been a change in the appointments.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Issues:
    Philip 0/8 Niclas 1/8 Thomas 1/8 Jacinto 1/8

    ReplyDelete
  4. In fact Jörn-West Larsen now has Leverkusen-ManU --> Was Cakir planned for Leverkusen-ManU originally?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Could the performance of the Slovenian team during the WC 2014 play-off have brought Pierluigi Collina to remove Damir Skomina and do some reshuffles?

      Peter/Vienna

      Delete
    2. That is possible.
      So based on your theory Skomina should have had a match influenced by either Larsen or Fernández Marín. As he had ManU-Leverkusen in the first leg, he should have had Celtic-Milan. This would also explain why Cakir got Milan once again after the play-offs (okay, Atkinson also has Zenit for the 2nd time this season, but the situation is different since English referees can only join 4 of the 8 groups..).

      Delete
  5. Predictions for Wednesday.
    Leverkusen-M.United Eriksson
    Shaktar D.- R.Sociedad Rocchi
    Juventus-Kobenhavn Boiko
    Real-Galatasaray Karasev
    Anderlecht-Benfica Stark
    PSG - Olympiakos Clattenburg
    CSKA Moscú - Bayern Thomson
    M.City - Plzen Proença

    ReplyDelete
  6. Predictions for Wednesday.
    Leverkusen-M.United Kassai
    Shaktar D.- R.Sociedad Thomson
    Juventus-Kobenhavn Stark
    Real-Galatasaray Eriksson
    Anderlecht-Benfica Orsato
    PSG - Olympiakos Collum
    CSKA Moscow - Bayern Aydinus
    M.City - Plzen Stavrev

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Leverkusen-M.United Benquerenca
      Shaktar D.- R.Sociedad Stavrev
      Juventus-Kobenhavn Stark
      Real-Galatasaray Thomson
      Anderlecht-Benfica Karasev
      PSG - Olympiakos Kassai
      CSKA Moscow - Bayern Collum
      M.City - Plzen 1st group; (Sidiropoulos?Gil?Liany?)

      Delete
  7. So our initial theory as to why Atkinson was replaced in today's game between Man City and Spurs was correct...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. But why was he initially appointed for this match? Was FA not informed that UEFA would request for Tuesday? Or does he replace someone else at short notice?

      Peter/Vienna

      Delete
    2. Forgot "him".

      Delete
    3. Peter, I really can't answer that question.
      All I can say is Atkinson and his assistants (Kirkup & Long) replaced Webb, Mullarkey and Cann in yesterday's Merseyside derby although Atkinson replaced Webb as FO.
      Now, Webb is in charge of Man City -Spurs. However, I really don't know why Atkinson was appointed in the first place if UEFA required his services on Tuesday. By the way, the FA do not make Premier League appointments. The PGMO headed by Mike Riley do.

      Delete
  8. Just one additional remark:
    Alberto Undiano should be very sure now for Bayern - Manchester City on MD6. There is no other opportunity except that (ok, UEL, but that would only happen as "pause for reflection" and I don't think so).

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He could also get Galatasaray - Juventus (in group B with Real Madrid), for example: Unless Real Madrid lose their home match against Galatasaray on MD5, they will definitely terminate the group stage in leading position.

      Peter/Vienna

      Delete
    2. However, if Brych does not get a match tomorrow, there would be only Galatasaray-Juventus left for him, so I doubt Undiano would get Gala (also but not only because of Real's presence).

      Delete
    3. Furthermore, Webb should be only available for Benfica-PSG.

      Delete
  9. Out of topic but not that much:

    http://www.tff.org/default.aspx?pageID=248&ftxtID=19501

    Jaap Uilenberg has observed Özkahya in a domestic match, Turkish Super Lig.

    Well, take a look at what happened here:

    http://www.livescore.com/soccer/turkey/super-lig/galatasaray-vs-sivasspor/1-1517573/

    Surely many situations to analyze. Cagatay could say more about that, I guess.

    ReplyDelete
  10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctPj1WAicjc

    For me missed penalty right at the start of this video.
    Correct no penalty at 4:00 of the video.
    Respect for the rest of his decisions, spot on.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The no-call at 04:00 is very good, the player tried to deceive the referee going on purpose to look for a contact with the opponent.
      No penalty, no simulation, well seen.

      Delete
    2. Last night, I have seen the whole match. I will say it first, I believe that it was an OK performance.

      There were really tough calls, and most of them went correctly. I will analyze things in detail, but I should note that "Old Referees" of Turkey (of whom are very popular on TVs, newspapers, etc) started to violently critisize this performance. Thats how it works in Turkey. If you critisize more and more, you get more credit from other teams' fans, etc... Disgrace.

      Now positions; Thats very clear that there were lots of open -for-interpretation posisitions, but lets start:

      - I also believe that there is a missed penalty on Ebue with the elbow. However, Ebue is a unique player, he is always on the ground, referees do not believe in him, he makes his pass runs for ball, penalty could be whistled.
      -There is a clear foul before the goal of Galatasaray, I think, Selcuk tackles the Sivas midfielder to get the ball. That resulted in Burak's goal.
      -First penalty: I fully agree with the refere. Player extends his area by slightly enlarging the arm. Correct call
      -YCs on Dany: The first is clear for a tactical foul in quick counter attack, the second is brave, well-seen decision, where it is a result of without-ball tackle.
      -YCs on Umit: The first is also clear for tactical foul in quick counter attack, the second is disputable, but I am with the referee here, Burak gets the control of the ball and runs with it, there is slight tackle with foots and pull from behind. The tackle that makes Burak down is by himself. But, still the first combination is adequate for a whistle I believe
      -As you noted, a very good no penalty in Min 81
      -Penalty on Drogba and red card: The penalty is clear with tackle with the ball aim however on foot, the card is a discussion point, I also here agree with referee that its a clear DOGSO. He can take his shoot if he wasnt tackled, hence goal scroing opportunity.
      -The last 2nd YC where Drogba makes his artistic pass, and takes the ball to goal scoring opportunity, another good decision.

      There were some other points where he could have booked to Galatasaray players, Umut for example, for a tackle from behind, or the Sivas player hits the ball on ground to protest many decisions. There was a big lack of control throughout the game. One should state that, but decisions were ok to me. Ozkahya should stand firm whateever he reads, and I believe that Mr. Uilenberg has shown him the right things to do.

      Delete
    3. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    4. Thank you for this detailed report, Cagatay.
      I share your view about criticisms from older or former referees about, it doesn't happen only in Turkey.
      They try to make audience and be famous as they have quit the pitch since years and years.

      Delete
  11. I did not find time to post the EL observers. So here in short:

    ! = quite meaningsful observer, !! = very important observer, !!! = committee

    Match - Observer - Delegate

    Swansea-Valencia: Melo Pereira (POR, !!) - Crucke (BEL)
    Krasnodar-St Gallen: Ersoy (TUR) - Dudl (CZE)
    Pacos-Fiorentina: Paniashvili (GEO, !) - Magnusson (ISL)
    Odessa-Dinamo: Krondl (CZE, !!) - Makray (HUN) - RLO: Viktor Shvetsov (UKR)
    Ludogorets-Eindhoven: Brummeier (AUT, !!) - Tuncer (TUR)
    Elfsborg-Salzburg: Vassaras (GRE, !!!) - Campbell (NIR)
    Esbjerg-Standard: Ward (IRL) - Petursson (ISL)
    Wigan-Zulte: Trentalange (ITA, !!) - Havrilla (SVK)
    Kazan-Maribor: Steinborn (GER, !) - Procopiou (CYP)
    Dnipro-Pandurii: Khudiyev (AZE) - Bokeria (GEO)
    Girondins-Frankfurt: Farina (ITA, !) - Piscanu (ROU)
    APOEL-Maccabi: Bohunek (CZE) - Been (NED)
    Genk-Dynamo: Ulrich (CZE) - Grundie (NIR)
    Rapid-Thun: Luci (ITA, !) - Cuervas Del Real (ESP)
    Slovan-Freiburg: Vitkovic (CRO) - McBeth (SCO)
    Sevilla-Praia: Kos (SVN) - Bartolo (MLT)
    Lyon-Betis: Petrovic (SRB, !) - Hughes (WAL)
    Rijeka-Vitória: Ivanov (RUS) - Bivolaru (ROU)
    Trabzonspor-Apollon: Pedersen (NOR, !!) - Stride (ENG)
    Legia-Lazio: Grigorescu (ROU) - Ospelt (LIE)
    Anji-Sheriff: Petrov (UKR) - Leppänen (EST)
    Tromso-Tottenham: De Bleeckere (BEL, !) - Wiesel (GER)
    Shakhter-PAOK: Zimmermann (SUI) - Azaryan (ARM)
    AZ-Haifa: Batta (FRA, !!!) - Appleby (ENG)

    ReplyDelete
  12. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaaLlJpf1kE

    This is a video about a penalty (and YC) given by Danny Makkelie. This was the second penalty; what do you guys think? I will try to post a video of the first penalty as well.

    After the second penalty a supporter enters the field and Makkelie decide to stop the match for a couple of minutes.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The video is a bit bumpy in fps but based on that I would support Makkelie's decision. The shot on goal seems to have been blocked by both hands / arms that were slightly increased and outstretched from the body.

      Delete
  13. What do you think about an Albanian observer (Sokol Jareci) with English referees ( Atkinson) ?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Where is the problem in that?

      Delete
    2. I think that Anonymous meant the fact that Albania has not a big story of football, even more if compared to England, and for this reason an Albanian observer would be not suitable.
      Well, in my opinion this speech his wrong. At this level, each UEFA observer has a very good experience based on the matches he has already observed. So, even though his background as former referee in Albania could seem to be not enough, he is surely able and very good in his work, like all the other observers.
      And let me also say that at the end we are human, a nice chat after the match it's always a good thing and an exchange of personal experiences.
      We are human :)

      Delete
  14. "A CSKA Sofia fan has taken matters into his own hands by starting a hunger strike, in an attempt to get a lifetime ban for a Bulgarian referee.

    Stanislav Todorov has been banned by the Bulgarian Football Union, with accusations of match-fixing after his performance during CSKA's defeat to surprise package Cherno More Varna."

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/boris-borisov-goes-hunger-strike-2842675

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Terrible news. Anyway I would like to understand more.
      It seems that Bulgarian Federation has banned him just based on what happened in the match? Without clear hints or proofs?
      They should act really carefully because for a referee, highly regarded also at UEFA level, a thing like this, if not true, can ruin his career. It seems that for Bulgaria it's very difficult to have a referee at high level if they immediately think about corruption.

      Delete
    2. What is more annoying, video I have, shows that the referee was right in most of cases...
      Watch here:
      http://sedziapilkarski.pl/wiadomosci/kibice-zadaja-zawieszenie-sedziego-grozba-strajku-glodowego/5906

      Delete
  15. By the way, another terrible weekend in English Premier League...

    Phil Dowd only booked Mirallas (Everton) for that:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e24gPzK3TFs

    Kevin Friend issued a red card to Wes Brown (Sunderland) for that:
    http://i.minus.com/i3m0HMcl1BiEM.gif

    Neil Swarbrick gave a yellow card for that:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxbbNSXeDio

    Sharing nice situations, I would like to present you two from Poland - Republic of Ireland friendly handled by Richard Trutz from Slovakia:
    https://vimeo.com/79944613
    https://vimeo.com/79944598

    and three from Polish Ekstraklasa:
    https://vimeo.com/80218665
    https://vimeo.com/80140533
    https://vimeo.com/80219077

    Enjoy and have your say :)

    Regards!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    2. Dowd: I watched the scene live. Missed red card.
      Friend: mistake by perception, he saw a foul which never existed
      Swabrick: clear violent conduct :)

      Trutzk
      1) I would have liked a red card, anyway in this case yellow is still borderline, but really BORDERLINE :)
      2) if your question is about a possible RC for DOGSO, I must say that I agree more with the YC given by referee here, it is true that Lewandowski had a good chance to run towards the area almost alone, but it happened still near the midfield and the defender you can see below in the video, might have joined the action. For sure it is not a 100% clear RC for DOGSO but as always one can discuss.


      Ekstraklasa:

      1) I see a easy fall here, anyway if we assume that this is foul, YC is in my opinion correct for two reasons:
      A) The player is not in possession of the ball
      B) The player has to get the ball, walking a bit away from the goal, not having immediately a clear chance to shot and score.

      2) Wrong decisions after the riot. Burliga absolutely RC. :) Nothing for the opponent involved.

      3) Reckless play, I would like to see RC at any rate in those situations, but at the end I recognize that the most common and probably suitable card is the yellow :)


      Delete
    3. Thank you very much :)

      My views:
      Dowd - missed obvious red card
      Friend - he probably saw only two straightened legs after the foul, but of course, no foul, no card
      Swarbrick - missed red card that was really difficult to see in real pace from angle he had

      POL-IRL
      Sorry, but it's 100% red card for SFP for me :)
      Totally agree, it's correct YC for SPA, not OGSO for me.

      Ekstraklasa:
      1/ Perfect decision to issue only YC, not OGSO for me, too.
      2/ Yeah :)
      3/ The problem is that Marciniak gave indirect free kick instead of penalty kick. Any replay doesn't show whether the contact exists :/ So, let's say, in dubio pro ref...

      Delete
    4. Emil Archambault25/11/13 16:07

      Agree on the 3 English situations.

      POL-IRL
      1: Excessive force and red card
      2: Yellow is the correct decision, as it is near midfield. Smart move by the defender, even if we don't like it...

      Ekstraklasa:
      1- Correct decision
      2- The player in black should have a yellow, as he initiates the confrontation. He goes towards Burliga to forcefully grab the ball from him. The Laws cover explicitly a player initiating a confrontation after a goal; however, this is the same type of situation. Burliga deserves a red card, but if you don't give the yellow to the other team, the referee might lose control.
      3- I cannot see contact on the video, but it is hard to judge. So, yellow card and IFK can be the right decision.

      Delete
    5. 1: SFP, RC.
      2: SPA, YC. I would consider a RC for DOGSO as clear mistake.

      1: SPA, YC, for the reasons you mentioned.
      2: RC to Burliga for VC and YC to the opponent. As Emil mentioned, in such situations it is tactically clever to punish both teams.
      3: I agree, no contact, foot slightly too high (but also at the borderline of a too low head). YC possible, idF correct.

      Delete
  16. Manchester City - Plzen: Aydinus
    Trabzonspor - Apollon Limassol Graefe

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Real Madrid - Galatasaray
      Collum

      Delete
  17. Rizzoli and Undiano Mallenco in Europa League!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Performance principle ftw

      Delete
    2. And Vad only in EL (APOEL - M. Tel Aviv).

      Delete
    3. Rizzoli,Undiano and Graefe at Europa League.
      In UEFA all is possible.

      Delete
  18. Appointments Wednesday (scroll down):

    http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2014/matches/bymonth/index.html

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Appointsments EL Thursday (again scroll down):

      http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/matches/bymonth/index.html

      Delete
    2. Jacinto 0/8
      Niklas 1/8
      Anonimous 0/8

      Delete
  19. The appointments for CL (Wedn.) and EL will be posted soon :)

    ReplyDelete
  20. Big match for Buquet under the eyes of Trentalange. Also a big surprise is Shemeulevitch..

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The good work of Dallas in Israel already gives results:
      -Orel Grinfeeld (4th cat) had a SF this year in U19 championship
      -Shemeulevitch (promoted this year in 3rd cat) already has a game in UEL groups

      Delete
    2. Same as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine... Nobody noticed Cakir, Aydinus, Karasev, Boiko before Uilenberg, Rosetti and Collina got involved... It is very helpful to have a member of the UEFA Referees Committee directly involved:)

      Delete
    3. It is true, we in Croatia have two ED referees, and all that progress started when Vlado Šajn was appointed by UEFA to supervise Croatian referees

      Delete
  21. Another time Benquerença at Champions. Strange!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He is an Elite official, why strange?

      Delete
    2. Yes,but not soo god performances in CL and other matches.

      Delete
  22. Libor Kovarik again in group K in match Anji - Sheriff. In October had match Tottenham - Tromso from same group K. Very interesting. This season has Kovarik 3 group matchech in europe League. It's good for him.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Anderlecht vs Benfica UCL Daniele Orsato

    ReplyDelete
  24. AAR2 Carlos Del Cerro Grande called a easy penalty in favor of Borussia.
    Absolutely not consistent, we should see 15 or 20 penalties in each match.
    Velasco had not whistled anything... sometimes matches and qualifications are decided by a choice.


    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Carballo has lost the control of this match... he missed a red card to Albiol (36'), giving a YC.
      Too relaex approach for a so important match, if you ask me.
      Two players booked without reasons, many complaints from both sides.

      Delete
    2. I watched thirty minutes of this match and must say that I strongly disagree. Excellent penalty decision, very good foul detection. Napoli players are behaving like children and Velasco dealt well and rigorously with that. Nijhuis and his Aar2 correctly disallowed a Schalke goal.

      Delete
    3. I saw the penalty incident for Velasco in the half time interval, and I too think this was a clear penalty. So - in my view a very good decision, but Velasco could perhaps have been a bit more clear with his body language. It seemed to take a very long time before the players realized that he had given the penalty.

      /Swedish observer

      Delete
    4. Holding was light, but it impeded the Dortmund player. Correct penalty if you ask me.

      Delete
    5. Nijhuis missed a clear penalty for Steaua...

      Delete
    6. I'm with you Chef - not sure what the Tom, Nic and SO are seeing with the penalty call. Lewandowski leans into the defender extensively, before the defender merely touches him in order to maintain balance. This isnt even in the same category as the penalty called by Clattenburg at Arsenal at the weekend, one where, like you say, would mean a number awarded per game.

      Though Carballo's foul detection was indeed good, I agree also that his match control was very poor. The penalty was given too late; the mele should have been prevented; two yellows were offered to Pandev and BD 10 for no reason; his body language was far too lax the whole 90 (for example Webb may choose to be relaxed at the start of the game, but in responding to the players' attitude and commitment, he may have to alter his body language and 'up the tempo' - Carballo cannot do this).

      Overall the players were not responding to his style of refereeing, and players such as Higuain, Bender, Callejon were perpetually showing dissent, amongst others. Must improve his overall showing, and surely won't thank AAR later ...

      Delete
    7. Exactly, Nikos. Especially in first half, he gave to me this feeling: too relaxed, passive, allowing everything. Players were nervous, he semed to not realize that. A stronger body language was needed, more alertness of the fact that the match was crucial.
      A bit better, I must be honest, in second half, but for me still important points for improvement.

      Delete
    8. Sorry, but excellent penalty decision. I must strongly disagree with you, Nikos. That's Napoli player who holds an opponent and then slightly push him overally, preventing opponent befor playing the ball. Perfectly detected.
      I didn't watch the match, but I can imagine Carballo missing (disciplinary) control. It's his biggest weakness.

      Delete
    9. This 'holding' happens at every corner at this level. The point actually is that it is not holding - as a former centre half myself, it is something you do to keep the striker 'in radar'; you merely have an arm either side of the player, barely making contact. This is what was occurring. Now if Carballo did not like this, he had a full 35 seconds in which to whistle his displeasure before ball in play; bring them both out, forewarn that such 'holding' (not holding) may result in a penalty, and then wave the corner in. He did not do this - instead, he awaited this, saw the ball too was over Robert's head, remembered Clatts' decision at the weekend (referees watch all the popular leagues!) and sub-counciously computed 'penalty', whistling 2 seconds after the infringement. We just can't whistle these every game as we would have thousands. For the record, I really do want to see more decisive action at corners, but for clear pulls and impeding the opponent's opportunity to score in the main.

      Bad night for Spain, as Lahoz gives a penalty for what was clearly outside of the area.

      Delete
    10. It gives me great pleasure to say that in my book, you are all a bit right ;-).

      About the penalty, I feel the Dortmund player is impeded in such a way, that playing the ball is impossible.

      About control, I feel he lost it a bit in the first half. He needs to be more proactive! I think that will be a keyword in my report.

      Excellent foul detection and fitness overall. Also the assistants were good.

      Btw, goodbye Nijhuis? I won't miss him to be honest...

      Delete
    11. Time for UEFA to their attention to Makkelie.

      Delete
    12. Ok repeating again my point of view (and I invite Hubert to watch the scene when Velasco whistled):

      1) If you give this penalty, you must give a penalty in almost all the corner kicks and this never happens
      2) you want to whistle, ok, but at least try to be convincing.. the action ended and then there was this whistle.. it seemed a whistle on demand after the complaints by Borussia, that's not good under the eyes of the observer (if you ask me)

      More generally, I'm saying again what already said, wrong approach by the officials, not alert and almost relaxed, I wasn't able to recognize that he was interested in whistling this match. I don't like such approach by referees.

      Delete
    13. I don't like Velasco Carballo's approach at all, what I written here in my opinions about WC fight.

      Ad. 1/ I don't buy this text. It's rare when defender holds opponent in such strong way and in the way that fully prevent him before playing the ball.

      Ad. 2/ It could've been the whistle after communication between team (main ref - AAR). It seems to be like that, so I have no complaints about that.

      Delete
    14. imo this penalty was correct and a very good decision (especially since Velasco took some time to see, wether there was an advantage or not). This was much more than the "usual" holding at every corner-/free-kick.
      However I still think, there was not a good (not in the sense of a report) performance by him. He lost the match control, had some problems with the assessment of duels and furthermore didn't give some YC, he should have given imo.

      Delete
    15. What about YC Raul Albiol - 36' that Chefren mentioned? One could issue a red in this case, I think. Of course, question of interpretation / line of the ref. No mistake for me.

      Delete
    16. Unfortunatelly I can't estimate this scene due to the waitress in the bar just running through the picture during the replay of this scene -.-

      Delete
    17. For me a YC is enough, agree with the referee. But in the 77th minute, Carballo seems to miss a foul where Maggio comes sliding in recklessly. Not only does the referee not issue the yellow card which is mandatory in my view, he doesn't even whistle for the foul and signals a throw-in to Napoli instead.
      I think it's a 'black and white mistake'. What are your views on this situation?

      Delete
    18. Hi Thomas
      I remember the scene you have mentioned, I watched it live.
      Velasco was close, probably he tought that it was a fair tackle on the ball by Maggio, but my feeling is that Napoli player was lucky. At least in this situation a YC was mandatory. Very dangerous and reckless action.
      If somebody wants to watch this scene, here the full match:
      http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-champions-league/borussia-dortmund-vs-napoli

      I can add other two situations that we are discussing today:

      1) I don't remember the exact minute, but AR1 allowed the play even though a ball was not played outside of area after a goal kick, technical mistake
      2) The big chance for Higuain at 60', just a few seconds prior to the 2-0 scored by Borussia. Fantastic save by Borussia keeper, but immediately after that, with the ball still there, the keeper commits foul on Higuain and so penalty (?). I anyway don't agree, this case is different from, for example, the missed penalty in Steaua match, because here the keeper at least is able to make a save, but then there is an inevitable contact. Nevertheless, it is true that with the ball there, Higuain is stopped in a certain way, denying a chance to score.


      Delete
    19. Thanks Chefren.
      That was my idea also. I would evaluate the action as reckless rather than with excessive force, so a indeed a yellow card.
      About situation 1) Thank you for sharing this, I had not noticed it while watching the match. If you know the minute or period within the match when it happened, please share it. It will find a way into my report ;-).
      2) I don't think it is a penalty, the goalkeeper spreads himself to make a save and gets the ball. After that, he collides with Higuaín but the save was clear. Also in this situation Carballo should be more clear and convincing in his signals.

      Delete
    20. Chefren and Thomas, the AR1 raised the flag during the match at least two times for that reason and the goal kicks were retaken. I don't think in that mistake.

      Delete
    21. Minutes 21 and 42. The AR1 was totally correct. Both goal kicks were retaken.

      Delete
  25. And Mateu Lahoz misses an obvious penalty for Arsenal for a blatant shirt pulling after 30 minutes. Crucial mistake, in my view. Surely difficult to spot in real speed but the replays were very revealing, I am afraid...

    /Swedish observer

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And in minute 36 he gives a penalty for a foul just outside the penalty area. Two crucial mistakes in his UCL debut. He will be disappointed afterwards when he sees the replays.

      /Swedish observer

      Delete
    2. This is his third match overall in CL :) Not the debut.

      Delete
    3. And replays showed clearly that the goalkeeper, who saved the penalty, was 1-2 meters from the goal line when the penalty was taken. And no reaction from the Spanish referee team. The AAR was looking at the goalkeeper. And did nothing. Spanish officiating has not been at its best in London tonight...

      /Swedish observer

      Delete
    4. My mistake believing that this was his debut. Will this mistake of mine also count as a crucial mistake :-)?

      /Swedish observer

      Delete
    5. I personally dislike the argumentation: if you give a penalty for such a foul, there´ll be 15 in a match. Following the LOTG, pulling is a foul and therefore a foul in the box has to be cautioned with penalty. IMO it´s important that the ref is consistent in his decisions so that players know how the ref will react.
      Furthermore, you mostly ignored that ref AND AAR had good and clear eyes in the Situation (what mostly is not the case when there is pulling in the box).

      best regards
      phil

      Delete
  26. Tarik Ongun with a correctly disallowed goal for Celtic. Min. 51'.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I have seen this match full, and I can say that ARs had a lot of things to do all match long by means of offsides. Ongun actually disallowed two goals correctly, and onsided a very promising attack of Celtic. Replays showed it was correct. In parallel, Duran also decided on a couple of tight offside.

      For Cakir, another tough game, I guess he managed it very well. Good foul detection, he has never lost control. There were some wierd foul detections. But, in the end, I guess it was a flawless performance.
      I am open any other idea

      Delete
    2. Here the work of both assistant referees was strongly praised. Excellent OFF/ONside calls all match long.
      About Cakir it is reported a possible straight red card for Izaguirre (foul from behind on Balotelli) in second half, but at the end not a real or crucial mistake, just a point for discussion.
      For the rest, a solid performance... I haven't anyway watched the match.

      Delete
    3. I have also noted the Izaguirre foul. For me it is RC. Tackle is from behind, with speed and with a clear intention to hit the opponent. I haven't decided yet but the mark will be influenced by that. Unfortunately I can't find any video of it.

      About Cakir. Some fouls were a little weird but his performance was good. Very good applying of the advantage rule.

      Both AR's were excellent. AR1 had a couple of crucial offsides (the 1st one is really crucial because without that we would have a penalty for Celtic). AR2 as I already said with a correct call at the goal.

      Delete
    4. Here the full match.

      http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-champions-league/celtic-vs-ac-milan

      Izaguirre - Balotelli (second half):
      23:30 video minute
      64:07 match minute

      It might have been a straight red, ball is away.
      Anyway, a question: is it possible that Cakir is a bit afraid now in showing a straight RC in CL after Manchester United - Real Madrid? :)

      Delete
  27. Was the penalty missed by Nijhuis blatant?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. http://www.digisport.ro/Sport/FOTBAL/Competitii/Champions+League/live-text/VIDEO+Steaua+-+Schalke+26.11.13+

      There are 2 penalty situations:
      -min 69: for Steaua
      -min 87: for Schalke

      Imo penalty for Steaua is crystal clear...

      Delete
    2. I'm trying to watch these clips but it doesn't work.
      It is reported "Error loading media, file not found"
      I will download the whole match, anyway, thanks.

      Delete
    3. Here in Romania it works fine (I'm using mozilla). Maybe those videos are forbidden outside of Romania.

      Delete
    4. I have now watched the situation. It is penalty because the keeper doesn't touch the ball at all. Nevertheless, often in these cases I see that referee are not accustomed to whistle, because they allow too much to keepers, apart from the fact that they are always overprotected more than the needed.

      87': I agree, nothing.

      Delete
  28. Anyone saw Kralovec in AJA-BAR? I think he did a good job and never was in real trouble... Red card for Veltman correct, it can be discussed whether the foul was inside or outside the box, but I think penalty is acceptable. One small riot (due to Neymar falling too obviously) in front of the Ajax goal solved fast by Kralovec and his assistants.
    At some points, he reminded me of the Skomina-van Persie incident (Skomina 'screaming' at van Persie). Kralovec also seemed to scream to some players, but that was more to the fact that the home crowd made a lot of noise I think :) He looked a bit angry at sometimes though, I didn't see much friendly faces from him.
    Again, I'm not expert as you guys are, but I think Kralovec did well yesterday. Looking forward to the report(s) of yesterday's matches!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Both assisstant was excelent! At the end of match were crucial onside situation and replays shows it was small offside a correct decision by Roman Slysko.

      Delete
    2. To bolster your argumentation, this is the penalty decision:
      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6UB2sIVldOAvV4XYPd&start=303

      It is imo impossible to see for AR1 that the contact very likely happened cms outside the box.

      Delete
  29. What do you think about cakir and duran,ongun?

    ReplyDelete

Copyright © . The 3rd Team
Theme Template by BTDesigner · Powered by Blogger