November 12, 2013

World Cup Referees to be only announced in May 2014

According to the online presence of pre-selected World Cup referee Ali Hamad Al Badwawi, FIFA Referees' Committee and FIFA Referee Department headed by Massimo Busacca will release the final list of referees for 2014 FIFA World Cup only one month before the tournament's start: in May 2014.


Contrary to earlier plans to reveal the names in January, Busacca has stated that he wanted to choose the best referees possible which required a longer period of the selection and observation process of the 50 officiating trios pre-selected. Furthermore, potentially injured referees had the chance to recover from it, Busacca posited.

214 Comments:

  1. Busacca said that or Albadwawi?

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    1. http://www.ali-albadwawi.com/new/index.php?go=news&more=2270

      (Ali Al Badwawi personal website)

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    2. Do you know arabian language ? .... :-)

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    3. You can translate everything thank to google
      http://translate.google.it


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  2. It's a bad news for me, anyway it is fair under a certain point of view.
    FIFA can observe the preselected officials in their domestic and continental matches, they can wait if a referee is injured, confirming his presence just one month prior to the tournament.
    And, last but not least, they should publish the names only after the final confirmation of the passed test for everybody, otherwise they might face the same problems happened in the past (Amarilla, Benouza and so on...)

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  3. Very good and mature decision of Busacca. So now, Al-Badwawi, Carballo and other outsiders still have a chance. I fear for play-off matches, where single game can destroy all chances or even whole career (example: Martin Hansson).

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    1. Also I think that is good the resolution of Busacca. Thus the referees
      must digest six months with more attention.

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  4. This was the next logical step on the way to the referees becoming Team 33 at the World Cup.
    With half a year between the selection and the actual tournament, form was not usually an issue, so often selection was made on the basis of reputation and experience. Now, as Hubert said, the chance is there for every single referee on the list (except perhaps Jedidi) to impress in the last phase of this season.

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  5. I am not convinced of the announcement to release the final list only one month prior to the World Cup: Each prospective referee will have to take a holiday for far more than one month whereas presumably almost half of them will not be considered and could rearrange in the case of an earlier decision, for instance three months in advance at the latest.

    Peter/Vienna

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    1. A holiday for what? Do you think that for referees at this high level, this is a problem?
      :)

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    2. I think that prospective World Cup referees need very flexible (part-time) jobs and/or very accomodating employers: Apart from the World Cup itself, they continiuously need some extra days for preparation meetings held by FIFA (World Cup) and UEFA (twice a year), for example. In addition, each candidate on the pre-list will be or even was considered for at least one FIFA tournament this or last year. Every single appointment for a UCL encounter also requires more than solely the matchday, an so on. Most prospective referees have families and should also take the holiday plans of their wives and school-aged children into consideration. As for me, I am entitled to take holidays for just five weeks a year ...

      Peter/Vienna

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    3. Emil Archambault13/11/13 14:59

      It doesn't mean they will tell the referees only one months prior to the WC. My guess is that the clear choices - Kuipers, Rizzoli, Proenca will be told early, and that Busacca will keep between 1 and 3 spots open in each association until the last minute. Similarly, some referees might be eliminated in January (Rocchi, Moen, etc.) and could be told right then.

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  6. I follow this blog and I want to ask: how is it possible to have always detailed news, very important info and so on? If you look for something elsewhere on the web, you find nothing. Yoiu should have a secret for this work, or really important people there informing you. I admire everything, please don't stop.

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    1. Thank you.
      You have answered the question yourself more or less :)

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  7. http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/matches/round=258394/match=300261018/index.html


    FIFA.com has removed Proença appointment.
    It is possible that he is nost still available. So?

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  8. ... Undiano Mallenco is out there, too. ???

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    1. Also Undiano appointment has been removed

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    2. On the mobile version of the FIFA website, it says Udiano and Proenca have swapped games.
      I don't know if it is the same on the desktop version.

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    3. Not still changed in the desktop version.
      So if confirmed the reason can be the official complaint by Romanian federation about Proença and the Portuguese coach of Greece

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    5. Here are the links:

      http://touch.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/matches/round=258394/match=300261018/index.html

      http://touch.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/matches/round=258394/match=300261019/index.html

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    6. Well, Romania did make a complaint about Proenca's neutrality due to Greece's coach also being Portuguese.
      I'm not certain but this could be the reason.

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    7. Undiano confirmed at Iceland-Croatian.

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    8. And according to FIFA Proenca is in Athens for Greece - Romania.

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    9. http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/matches/round=258394/match=300261019/index.html

      http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/matches/round=258394/match=300261018/index.html

      I still don't see the names written down here.


      Meanwhile: MEX - NZL 5-1.
      Almost the same count as JOR - URU.
      FIFA should really think thoroughly about what happened today.



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  9. Moen with 3(!) penalty appeals until now (min. 63').

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    1. All appeals by Uruguay?
      Anyway, this scores makes really unnecessary the second leg match.
      Jordan must travel to Uruguay... without a hope.
      The same for Eriksson, he will have something like a training.. not good.
      This play off (AFC - CONMEBOL) was a wrong choice by FIFA, in my opinion.

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    2. 2 from Jordan and 1 from Uruguay (Suarez). IMO the most difficult one was the Suarez situation even though for me it is not a penalty.

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    3. 0-5.
      I'm really sorry for Jordan.
      The correct matches might have been: Jordan - New Zealand anmd Mexico - Uruguay.
      I don't know why FIFA had this idea... and now tell me the meaning of Eriksson and Vassaras there.

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    4. I agree, the second leg is almost nugatory...
      FIFA don't really care about fairness and equity. All they seem to worry about is £$£$. They can't afford for a nation of Uruguay's stature to miss out on a World Cup.
      A team of Uruguay's quality, boasting players such as Suarez, Cavani and Forlan should not be paired with a team ranked 70th in the world.
      Anyway, like Chefren, I really sympathise with Jordan.

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    5. Sory but I highly disagree with you !

      4,5 places for Asia is too much, also 3,5 places for Concacaf is too much. On the other hand Europe has only 13 tickets to WC.

      Pls remember that in 2006 and 2010 all semifinalists were from Europe (also 7/8 european teams in QF). In these circumstances why Europe has only 13 places from 32...?

      Friday evening I will be in Athens for Greece- Romania which is a very difficult game for my country. It would have been much better for Romania to play against Jordan or New Zealand...or even better would have been to give 17 tickets for Europe !

      WC should be the place where best teams in the world participate...and, believe me, some good UEFA countries will stay home in order to give places to other confederations

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    6. That is why they call it "WORLD" Cup not "BEST TEAMS" Cup or something like that...

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    7. Wrong....FIFA still pretends that best teams participate which is obviously not true....

      Pls take a look which countries participated in WC 70 or WC 86

      http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=32/teams/index.html
      http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=68/teams/index.html

      I don't want to say who participated in 74, 78 and 82....

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    8. Petschovski and Jako(????) are the same person ignorant?

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    9. What do you want from petschovschi? He only presented his view. JACO is moron, so they are not the same person for sure.

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    10. This debate is usual and so petschovschi has his right to utter his opinion. I strongly disagree with it though and I would dare to say that Romania would potentially lose vs every South American team in a match in Brazil. And of course FIFA must say the best teams are there...what else? A project of billions and with more sponsors than teams participating in it for a tournament without the best teams? That would be bad PR.

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  10. A small essence of MD5 observers.

    Steaua-Schalke: Jozef Marko (SVK) -> Gautier ?
    Real-Galatasaray: Bertrand Layec (FRA) / Delegate Rainer Koch (GER) -> no Brych.
    Arsenal-Marseille: Peter Mikkelsen (DEN)
    BVB-Napoli: Zdravko Jokic (SRB)
    Leverkusen-ManU: Juan Fernández Marín (ESP)

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    1. For Steaua-Schalke, F.Borbalan could be another alternative.
      Real-Galatasaray is difficult, because also Lannoy is out and an experienced referee seems necessary. Maybe Eriksson.
      For Group F Undiano, Velasco and Kralovec are the hottest candidates IMO.
      Leverkusen-Manu surely should be for an Elite referee, e.g. Kassai

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    2. Real-Galatasaray nothing difficult. Balaj,Benquerença,Collum,
      Dean, Hagen,Hategan,Karasev,Kassai,Kralovec,Makkelie,Mazic.Nijhuis...............

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    3. Fernandez is not possible due to delegate Dervishaj. I could imagine Gautier or Orsato in Ste-S04. Other predictions might be Bebek for Lev-Mnu (observer is important), Kralovec for Real (observer is important). Agreed on Velasco, Philipp.

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  11. According to the translation, and specially Busacca's way of thinking, the plan is still the same as it was from the beginning: referee's names for the WC will be published in January, but the list will continue open till May. I don't see the surprise here.

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    1. I can also imagine that Massimo Busacca will appoint (for instance) 30 referee teams (24 + 6 acting only as Fourth/Fifth officials) earlier next year but leaves open their respective "statuses".

      Peter/Vienna

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    2. I guess so, make sense with Busacca's feeling.

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    3. The referees must be always under examination otherwise they can relax being aware that they are already at WC 6 months prior to the tournament. Of course, about UEFA, we must say that there are certain referees who are at any rate sure.
      On the other hand, probably a referee officially selected for a WC (a so important tournament) should be informed at in a appropriate time, in order to prepare himself. This is more important for the officials who will be at their first WC experience, of course. One month can be a too short time.

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    4. I would like to compare it with a national team...
      Normally, you have a fixed block in your team who can be sure that they will be selected for the World Cup (e.g. in Spain: Iniesta, Xavi, Torres, Piqué etc.). However, there are always "outsiders" who have to fight hard for their position until the end of the selection process that normally ends in May. If you consider Busacca and co. as the coaching team and the referees as national players, this imagery could maybe fit for them, too (meaning that s.o. like Webb has the verbal warranty that he will be selected).

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    5. Excellent analogy Niclas. :)

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  12. Good to start to unveil sure names for brasil in january and in any case I totally agree with Peter: family first ! Even when one have to manage hoiiday with wife's job and school aged children. In my opinion. :-) m

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  13. Who is the referee in the pic of this post with a very nice watch?

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  14. ¿Undiano at Greece-Romanian and Proença at Iceland-Croatian?

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  15. What do you think about that?

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x175fj4_jordan-vs-uruguay-13-11-2013-suarez-dive_sport#from=embediframe

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    1. Cavani is obsturcting the view in the crucial moment :)
      The second replay isn't clear. It can be dive as well as penalty.
      Moen was there, I thinki we can trust him.

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    2. Ok, there isn't a better video. However it isn't a penalty. I am preparing the report atm and all 3 penalty appeals are no-penalty for me. Moen will get 8.6 or 8.7.

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    3. Emil Archambault14/11/13 16:14

      It seems to me that Suarez starts falling before he gets tackled. Nice dive.

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    4. Dive but not 100% dive.
      Suarez at the end could say that his opponent made a tackle and he was forced to fall. So, correct decision by Moen: no penalty, no simulation. That's my view.
      He looked for a penalty but referee was clever.

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    5. I agree with Anonymous on this one. No penalty no simulation. Report is ready. Moen got 8.6.

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    6. 100% simulation why is there debate? Simulation isn't defined by whether or not a tackle or challenge for the ball materialises. Suarez chooses to go down for a penalty a good half a second before the challenge, thus 'simulating' to con the referee. YC

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  16. Another aspect to figure in. If Proenca and Udiano indeed switch games. Will the observers have to switch too? Marin was in line to observe Proenca in Greece.

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  17. Undiano is in Iceland preparing for the match. They are not switching.

    But the pitch in Iceland is in that kind of a shape that Croatia and Iceland didn't get the permission to train on the pitch day before the match like the rule is.

    That says something about the condition.

    Interesting at least.

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    1. Undiano is not a referee accustomed to low temperature.
      They might have appointed a German or English here, for example.

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    2. Nonsense commentary.

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    3. Undiano is a referee of greatness.

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    4. You commentary is poor and mistaken.

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    5. Undiano is not better that Çakir,Eriksson,Brych,Kassai,Kuipers,
      Proença,Rizzoli,Skomina,Velasco and Webb. But he is like
      Clattenburg,Lannoy,Moen,Stark....I think.

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    6. Undiano Mallenco will be at WC.

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    7. The problem is that he was rarely really tested over the last months....he struggled in CL matches like Benfica-Olympiakos or Celtic-Juve but managed a playoff like Zenit-Pacos well...that is no basis for a World Cup in my opinion. Therefore the exciting question is whether FIFA cares about his UEFA "progress" or not.

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    8. One small info I want to throw into the debate...
      Referee Observers in Undiano's and Velasco's last qualifiers.

      Romania-Hungary: Undiano -> Trentalange (ITA)
      Slovenia-Norway: Velasco -> Trentalange (ITA)

      FIFA Committee...

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    9. Trentalange pretends to understand who is better between Undiano and Velasco. This is a joke. You can't decide that based on a single match. Therefore, FIFA will surely take a look at the previous experience, the tournaments and so on.
      Undiano is in the best position.
      Velasco EURO2012 was poor, Undiano WC2010 too, but in my opinion better than the first one.
      Do you agree?

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    10. I basically agree. It does not mean that Trentalange claims to decide that based on one match. As you said, this would be nonsense. But it at least indicates that FIFA is in strong doubts..

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  18. 19/11
    Friendly appointment
    Craven Cottage, London

    Italy - Nigeria
    Martin ATKINSON
    Simon BENNET
    Jake COLLIN
    Lee PROBERT

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    1. Does anybody have any knowledge on the referees for England - Chile and England - Germany? Thanks.

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    2. First one goes to Florian Mayer :)

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  19. A small remark on Skomina performance in Olympiacos - Benfica.
    I write here because I know that there are many people waiting for news about our reports.
    I must say it was one of the best matches that the Slovenian crew has officiated in the last times, especially the first half.
    Probably it is not a case, but when there is Benfica, Skomina seems to be excellent (remember Chelsea-Benfica).
    Report to be published soon: mark will be not less than 8.5


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    1. Referees for Greece - Romania and Iceland - Croatia are still not posted on FIFA.com, with less than 24 hours. What does that mean?

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    2. I don't know, anyway it seems that there wasn't any chanjge.

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    3. Glad to hear about Skomina!

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  20. Here are appointments for friendlies I found:

    BELARUS - ALBANIA
    Referee: Fırat Aydınus - TUR
    Assistants: Serkan Ok - TUR, Aleks Taşçıoğlu - TUR

    BELGIUM - COLOMBIA
    Referee: Mark Clattenburg - ENG
    Assistants: Peter Kirkup - ENG, Simon Long - ENG

    CZECH REPUBLIC - CANADA
    Referee: Bryn Markham-Jones - WAL
    Assistants: Edward James King - WAL, Philip Thomas - WAL

    DENMARK - NORWAY
    Referee: Robert Schörgenhofer - AUT
    Assistants: Roland Brandner - AUT, Matthias Winsauer - AUT

    ESTONIA - AZERBAIJAN
    Referee: Alexey Nikolaev - RUS
    Assistants: Oleg Tselovalnikov - RUS, Vitaly Drozdov - RUS

    ITALY - GERMANY
    Referee: Olegario Benquerença - POR
    Assistants: João Santos - POR, Venâncio Tomé - POR

    POLAND - SLOVAKIA
    Referee: Marco Borg - MLT
    Assistants: Edward Spiteri - MLT, Mitchell Scerri - MLT

    REPUBLIC OF IRELAND - LATVIA
    Referee: Andreas Ekberg - SWE
    Assistants: Magnus Sjöblom - SWE, Mohammed Mehmet Culum - SWE

    RUSSIA - SERBIA
    Referee: Muhammad Abdulkarim Al-Zarouni - UAE
    Assistants: Ahmad Muhammad Al-Shamisi - UAE, Sabat Ubaid Al-Ali - UAE

    SOUTH KOREA - SWITZERLAND
    Referee: Diego Hernán Abal - ARG
    Assistants: Hernán Pablo Maidana - ARG, Gustavo Fabián Rossi - ARG

    TURKEY - NORTHERN IRELAND
    Referee: Bas Nijhuis - NED
    Assistants: Rob van de Ven - NED, Charles Schaap - NED

    16/11/13

    NETHERLANDS - JAPAN
    Referee: Serge Gumienny - BEL
    Assistants: Kristof Meers - BEL, Jimmy Cremers - BEL

    WALES - FINLAND
    Referee: Sebastien Delferiere - BEL
    Assistants: Frank Bleyen - BEL, Yves De Neve - BEL

    18/11/13

    ITALY - NIGERIA
    Referee: Martin Atkinson - ENG
    Assistants: Simon Bennett - ENG, Jacob Collin - ENG

    MOLDOVA - LITHUANIA
    Referee: Alexandru Dan Tudor - ROU
    Assistants: Vasile Florin Marinescu - ROU, Mircea Orbuleţ - ROU

    19/11/13

    AUSTRIA - UNITED STATES
    Referee: István Vad - HUN
    Assistants: Róbert Kispál - HUN, Oszkár Lémon - HUN

    BELGIUM - JAPAN
    Referee: Fırat Aydınus - TUR
    Assistants: Serkan Ok - TUR, Aleks Taşçıoğlu - TUR

    GIBRALTAR - SLOVAKIA
    Referee: Hugo Miguel - POR
    Assistants: Pedro Garcia - POR, António Godinho - POR

    KYRGYZSTAN - AZERBAIJAN
    Referee: Artem Kuchin - KAZ
    Assistants: Sergey Vassiutin - KAZ, Serik Zhappasbaev - KAZ

    MALTA - FAROE ISLANDS
    Referee: Marcin Borski - POL
    Assistants: Rafał Rostkowski - POL, Krzysztof Myrmus - POL

    NETHERLANDS - COLOMBIA
    Referee: Florian Meyer - GER

    POLAND - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
    Referee: Richard Trutz - SVK
    Assistants: Ondrej Brendza - SVK, Peter Chládek - SVK

    SLOVENIA - CANADA
    Referee: Hüseyin Göçek - TUR
    Assistants: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy - TUR, Orkun Aktaş - TUR

    TURKEY - BELARUS
    Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz - ESP
    Assistants: Pau Cebrian Devis - ESP, Javier Aguilar Rodriguez - ESP

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    1. Is that the first match ever for Gibraltar national team? :)
      Nice. Waiting for Gibraltar referees...

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    2. One shame.

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    3. I have watched some TV documentary about Gibraltar referees a few weeks ago. If I remember correctly, they said that the first GIbraltar international refereeing trio is planned to be on the FIFA list around 2016 or so.

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  21. According to the Daily Mail, Florian Meyer will take charge of tonight's fixture between England and Chile.

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    1. This is interesting, because he is also appointed for Netherlands-Colombia. So he has a nice weekend of friendly matches as the finish of his international career (on A-team-level).

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    2. Nice gesture for Meyer. I also hope other officials like Mike Dean who are nearing the end of their respective international careers get some action in next week or so.

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  22. Still no news on Undiano/Proenca for tonight? On FIFA mobile website (http://m.fifa.com/worldcup/index.html), clicking on the preview for ICE-CRO direct to the page of GRE-ROU where it says Undiano as referee, while the preview of GRE-ROU directs to the ICE-CRO page with Proenca... And the 'real' FIFA website still lists no referee...

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  23. If Clattenburg is at Belgium-Colombia, that must say that he don´t go to
    Brazil. Road free for Webb?

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  24. Who is a referee between England against Germany ?

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  25. Iceland - Croatia
    Alberto Undiano Mallenco, Raul Cabanero Martinez, Roberto Diaz Perez del Palomar, Carlos Clos Gomes - Spain
    commissioner: Mark Blackbourne - England
    observer: Peter Mikkelsen - Denmark

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  26. Out of topic
    I have watched Ilias Spathas performance in Serbia-Belgium U21.
    I was so suprised with his refereeing.Good crucial decisions,very good control,bookings, in general,one very good performance.He will be one top-class referee,if he continues with his working,and devotion.He's great talent,and with good mentor he can reach a lot.
    Regards from Belgrade!

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    1. Nice to hear that. Spathas should be promoted on December.

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    2. Ne znam sta si ti video u ovom sudiji ali sigurno da nema toliki potencijal. Procena prekrsaja mu je slaba, Cak je propustio da dosudi dva penala (po jedan za obe ekipe). Mozda je samo imao los dan. A mozda je to njegov kapacitet. ;)
      Regards from Belgrade.

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    3. I do not know what you saw in this referee but surely he has not such potential. Assessment for foul is poor, even failed to award two penalties (one for each team). Maybe he just had a bad day. But perhaps it is his capacity.

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    4. I find that hard to believe. Spathas is a very good referee.

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    5. Next time I will comment on matches on German.

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    6. Niclas, that was answer for BlogRef. I translated after on english.
      Ref on that match was not so good as he said.

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    7. I watched the match too and Indeed not a good performance from greek referee.Many soft fouls,not good control and a penalty not given.Not a good referee...

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    8. My friend Edward because its difficult for you to believe all this for your greek friend check that:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jESCcktd5Io
      See 0'30'' incredible penalty missed...
      and again 1'30'' advantage in penalty...????I believe its clear penalty also.
      I Will wait for your opinion...

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    9. Thank you for the video, dule.
      I agree on the first situation. That was far more than legal play and should have been a penalty. In the second scene, I agree with Spathas. He well allowed the advantage which definitely existed, the forward was able to make a shot on goal in front of the goalkeeper. Imagine he had whistled penalty and the forward would have scored a moment later..

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    10. Ok thanks Niclas!But in the LOTG its clear:No advantage for a penalty kick...And he missed the goal.For me definetaly a penalty and red card of course for DOGSO.

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    11. Could you please quote this passage of the Laws of the Game?
      A referee can apply the advantage principally everywhere and at all times. The closer the infringement is to the penalty area / goal, the higher the advantage is. In the penalty area, the referee should only apply advantage if he is totally sure that a goal will be very likely scored. And imo Spathas had good arguments to think so.

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    12. My opinion is different and i have to remember you the CL final of Mr Hauge Barca-Arsenal i think,that a similar decision cost him his carrier...

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    13. Having opinions is nice but you should at least accept that he acted in accordance to the Laws of the Game.
      As for Hauge, the situation happened outside the box and contrary to Spathas he did not apply advantage. So I do not see a correlation here.

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    14. Ok, I watched the video.

      First to clarify something, Spathas is not a friend of mine and I don't even know him personally. So I don't want to defend him.

      The first scene is a penalty but can you tell me where is Spathas? Can you really blame him for that? Or his AR2 should have informed him of the situation?

      The second one. The contact exists but the player makes a clear move to play the ball and potentially score. Would this count as a penalty? No way.

      That's my opinion.

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    15. Totally correct, AR2 has to assume the main responsibility for the first call. He had a perfect angle and was closer than the referee and therefore had a better view.

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    16. And that, Niklas, I believe will be the view of the observer.

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    17. Of course AR2 is to blame,but the responsibility goes to the referee.In the second situation its impossible to not whistle a penalty and a red card and just leave an advantage(especially on penalty situations.Because now look what has happened.No goal scored,and the team that made the foul was the one who finally received the advantage because also they continued the match in 11!And as for the observer i can assure you that he was not happy at all...

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    18. And soory Edward,for using friend word,i dont know if you even come from Greece...Its a way of saying in Serbia,like brate...it means brother.And my english is not so good...Sorry again

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    19. Ok, dule.

      Tell me something. At the first situation how the referee takes full responsibility for that since he couldn't see it with so many players blocking his way. I am quite confident that any observer would just lower his mark -0.2 but the AR would get 7.9/7.8.

      Did you talk to the observer about this incidents? Because I find that hard to believe.

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  27. Undiano with a correct red card for Iceland (DOGSO).

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    1. He had IMO a good performance in a very sporting match. Could get in trouble if he has a more challenging match, though. At least that's my feeling.
      Assistants very good as well.
      N.B. Started watching the match at the 40th minute

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    2. I would trust him in the dogso decision. On the other hand, there is no replay confirming that a foul existed. Perisic was definitely touched, but was it enough for a foul?

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    3. I've watched the whole match now, and I have to change my opinion significantly. He wasn't 'good' at all. Problems with foul detection and consistency. I would say it was a 8,1 performance (perhaps +0.1 for the correct RC) but that is up to the blog observer.

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    4. I have just finished watching Mallenco and tbh he had a good performance. Good foul detection and tactical approach. He wasn't influenced by the home crowd and remained calm the whole match. His only minus is that he was tolerate towards some players who were protesting the whole time. The DOGSO RC was correct. A performance of at least 8.4.

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    5. I thought he had a lot of small fouls, some of which he whistled, some of them not. His consistency was lacking IMO

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    6. If he was whistling everything then the match would have over 100 fouls. Seriously now, consistency in foul detection is when awarding the same fouls to both teams. There were some "fouls" Iceland asked but in most cases the attacker fell on his own or seeked contact. He awarded every foul that included pushing or pulling. That is consistency. Report will be ready tomorrow.

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    7. Thank you. I look forward to reading your report.

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  28. Mr. Cakir with good first half. Man-management and two yellow cards spot on. No bigger controversies. I only disagreed with some foul/no-foul calls (a bit random whistling, not clear line).

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    1. I have watched a bit of Cakir first half and I agree.
      Also Italian commentators said the same thing.
      Correct the YCs he gave, but not a clear line and some minor ramdom whistles.

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  29. Cakir rejected a penalty appeal which might have been DOGSO in favor of Ukraine, and then awarded a penalty to the same team.
    Both were correct decisions, in my opinion, especially the first very difficult to take.

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    1. What about red cards? :) I didn't saw the situation.

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    2. Incredible end of the match.
      Correct red card issued by Cakir for a violent conduct and then correct second YC to a Ukrainian player.
      This match can really be WC ticket.
      Who was the UEFA observer?

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    3. Right. There were strong penalty appeals in
      75' - agree with referee and Chefren that there could've been penalty and red card for denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity after French defender was holding opponent for the hand, but the latter fell later without an foul from Frenchman
      79' - Ribery wanted penalty for pulling and pushing, I think there would be far too easy penalty,
      82' - penalty whistled was correct decision even though Ukrainian player fell easily,
      84' - #3 FRA strongly suggests he was pulled by one of opponents; after watching replays I'm sure there was pulling for sleeve that more or less (rather less) stopped the French player from reaching the ball; I must also add that it was almost impossible to detect, so it shouldn't be called as a crucial mistake in my humble opinion.

      Two red cards were correctly issued. The first one for violent conduct was a result of unsporting behaviour of Ukrainian player. Anyway, it couldn't have caused such reaction like Koscielny's one. Rude slap into the face - of course - must've been punished by red card. Kucher was also correctly booked. I only want to add that this scene might have been prevented by the referee who was a bit passive there and reacted after all, however with correct individual punishments. The second sending-off is a result of second Kucher's yellow card for reckless and tactical foul on Ribery and must be described as fully correct.

      Overall, it was a very good performance of very calm and firm referee. His man-management was at the very high level, his decisions were respected and fully understanded. Some problems in foul detection area couldn't hide a very good game of Turkish refs.The game that was really difficult to handle.

      Another positive point is positioning and fitness of the main referee. It was simply brilliant today. Excellent play-reading and anticipation.

      If I was the observer, I would give following marks:
      8.4 for Cuneyt Cakir (charisma, positioning, -0.3 for missed penalty)
      8.6 for Bahattin Duran (two excellent onsides 55', 65')
      8.6 for Tarik Ongun (awsome onside leading to the first goal)

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    4. Serik, very nice analysis. I agree with your comments. If you want, you can contact me via mail.

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    5. Could someone pls share a link to Cakir's awarded penalty, if there is one?

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    6. Ok, I have found it myself.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT6-KxizS7k

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    7. Agree Chef, referee got the potential DOGSO and actual pen spot on. I also think Cakir was correct not to award Evra a penalty. There was only one small improvement I could offer the Turk; in the last minutes where he has to send Kosc off, could he have prevented this perhaps? There is a potential reckless challenge (thus potential YC) BEFORE the forward then persists in chasing the ball and kicking it away - which is the incident that provokes the coming together with Kosc. Cakir could have shown more authority here, arrive at the scene earlier to administer the caution, and if necessary use the whistle more fiercely in order to prevent further mis-behaviour.

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  30. I watched Benquerenca and had Cakir on live stream. I thus can only say that I fully agree on all crucial decisions taken by Cakir. Correct sending-offs, correct penalty area decisions. If FIFA needed further arguments to select him for the WC, they have found them tonight.

    Benquerenca was very weak in Italy-Germany. He had no line in disciplinary management and missed several clear YCs. Then a riot started around minute 80 after a foul by Kroos (YC still ok), several players were attacking him and Thiago Motta made a slip into Kroos' face. Benquerenca gave YC.. it was directly in front of Benquerenca and Joao Santos who supported him in the conflicts. And finally, missed penalty - German Höwedes was excessively pulled by Abate at a corner kick. No whistle.

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    1. Benquerenca was really bad. Had no control and was weak the whole game i thought.

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    2. Olegario Benquerença is one referee that must leave to be Elite.

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  31. Proença issued a double YC in two minutes.
    It would be nice to know whether this decision was correct.

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    1. Yes Chefren. Both YC's are correct. The first one is for a hard studs-up tackle and the second one for pulling on an promising attack. The only grey area would be Greece 1st goal (for offside). AR1 disallowed a goal by Greece for a clear offside.

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    2. It seems onside watching the video on youtube.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vpdxquYW94

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    3. Chefren, here:

      http://www.soccerplus.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/new-arthro/2013/11/pegasus_large_t_1041_106131492.jpg

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    4. Offside.
      Unexpected mistake from Bertino Miranda.

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    5. The assistant involved was Tiago Trigo.

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    6. Ah ok, indeed I was surprised.
      Miranda never makes mistakes. :)

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  32. Rizzoli's foul detection and perfornance was fine yesterday, but he was very lenient with the cards. I would not have objected if both Ronaldo and Elmander would have received their second YC's. Elmander for a dive and Ronaldo for bad behaviour in general. But that is a matter of opinion of course. It would not count as crucial mistakes in FIFA's view, I think. Portugal was the better team. Even though Rizzoli was lenient with his cards I think he clearly should go to Brazil.

    /Swedish observer

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  33. It´s difficult the affair of cards. If the referee shows all possibles cards, the
    matchs finish with 15 players at the ground.

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  34. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMqsPX8Yyc

    Ronaldo's "headbutt". Imo, he must be off, if Rizzoli sees that. The tolerance for headbutts is low.

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    1. I concur, if Rizzoli saw the headbutt, Ronaldo would have walked.
      It was very sneaky one from Ronaldo. It reminds me of when Drogba slapped Vidic in the 2008 CL final. However, in that incident, Lubos Michel saw the infringement and correctly sent off the offender.

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    2. Ronaldo is not a fair player, I would like to see Ibrahimovic at WC. :)
      I'm honest..

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    3. The so called headbutt was not a red card offence for me. The Swedish players laughed about this afterwards saying that it was nothing. And I must say that I agree. On the other hand, there were at least 2-3 other occassions where Ronald could (or should) have received a yellow card so I think that he should have been off anyway. But, as said above, I guess that FIFA will back Rizzoli... In my book a 8.4 performance, but two missed second yellow cards, so you can all calculate the mark I would have produced if i was the observer... 7.4 - but as I said FIFA never consider this as a 7.4 performance, so he will get 8.4 or so by them.

      A shame really that he bottled those two decisions because he was really good overall,


      /Swedish observer

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  35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsTzsPkHtq0

    Penalty awarded by Gassama to Nigeria today.
    If you ask me, wrong decision. The ball touches the body at first and then the arm. In this case it is clearly unintentional.
    Apart from that, I must say that Ethiopia did nothing to qualify, so this is not a big or relevant mistake. An easy 2-0 and now they are at WC, anyway I would like to have more detailed instructions to referees at WC about handballs, actually in my opinion this is a big problem.
    You can whistle everything and you can whistle nothing..

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  36. A couple days late but Holger Henschel, Christoph Bornhorst and Felix Zwayer were with Meyer at Wembley last night.
    Probably it will be the same in the Netherlands on Tuesday?

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  37. Few seriousness: Guinea-Spain friendly today with referee of Guinea.

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    1. No Mallenco here?

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    2. You must out here. That is one seious blog.

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    3. There seems to be an increasing number of people on this blog whose English is impossible to understand ...

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    4. But you are incompetent.

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  38. "Lagerback frustrated by referee performance". Anyone can confirm or reject this statement?

    http://www.soccerway.com/news/2013/November/15/lagerback-frustrated-by-referee-performance

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  39. England - Germany : Referee ????

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    1. One could guess Lannoy, just because he is the only big name without important or relevant matches in these days.
      But I really don't know.

      Referee for Scotland - USA yesterday (missing in Hubert list): Michael Oliver.

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  40. I can confirm that Undiano was not at his best yesterday. His foul detection both ways was very strange. He was insecure after he refereed with the Croatian team and the Icelandic team got many silly free kicks because he was making things up.

    Insecure performance and favour of the big team. I expected more from him.

    The big decision was 100% correct. Red card for DOGSO.

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    1. I will comment tomorrow after watching the match.

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    2. Insecure performance? I can't agree with you. I haven't see any inconsistency but a match always undercontrol. Main situations right (very well reacted and excellent decision taken in the very first minutes of the second half: DOGSO)
      Some minor mistakes but expected level for a WC referee.

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    3. I watched the match and IMO Lagerback should be banned from FIFA for his statement. Undiano's neutrality cannot be questioned. He gave to both teams only the fouls that really existed. Expected level performance.

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  41. Chefren, very good guess :)

    19/11
    England - Germany
    Stéphane Lannoy (FRA)
    Frédéric Cano (FRA)
    Michael Annonier (FRA)
    Laurent Duhamel (FRA)

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  42. Brazil - Honduras: David Gantar (CAN), Kermit Quisenberry (USA), Phillipe Briere (CAN) Ricardo Salazar (USA)

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    1. Isn't it red instead of yellow?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqRNTbIUvkM
      or
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WacseKBFF_g

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  43. I hope it will be available for you. The referee team from Equatorial Guinea which oversee the friendly match between EG and Spain didn't do a good job to formulate it kindly. Here three reckless tackles of Thierry Fidjeu - result: one yellow card: http://tinyurl.com/p4gat6a
    And here the disallowed goal. The sreenshot post in this article is shocking: http://tinyurl.com/ofvawz2

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    1. It is available.
      I have watched the video, several red cards were missed by the referee. It is really a poor performance.
      The disallowed goal can't be true...
      The referee was Joaquin Esono Eyang, 1985 born and at his first year as FIFA. Wrong choice if you ask me, the trio has shown the low level of Equatorial Guinea refereeing.
      At least, an Elite official from CAF was needed.

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    2. Chefren, I´m OK with you: lamentable designation of Joaquin
      Esono Eyang.

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  44. I wonder whether a potential elimination of the French national team by the Ukraine in the World Cup play-off would ensure Stéphane Lannoy a direct ticket for Brazil 2014 even though his performances might be considered slightly under par. I cannot imagine that France will be represented by neither its national team nor a referee. Theoretically, the same would count for the loser between Sweden and Portugal but here the appearances of their prospective referees Jonas Eriksson and Pedro Proenca seem to be undisputed.

    Peter/Vienna

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    1. Hi Peter,
      I would like to hear your opinion on the fact that Lannoy was not appointed for a play off, meanwhile all the other big names got a important match (8 UEFA play off + 4 intercontinental).
      At the end one might have expected the French, for example, instead of Moen.
      For this reason, it is possible that they are not taking into account him in any case.
      Or maybe he will go to Brazil only as fourth.

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    2. Hi Chefren,

      considering Jorge Larrionda's no-goal decision during the World Cup 2010 as well as "Wembley 1966", I think that this friendly match needed a very experienced referee like Viktor Kassai or Stéphane Lannoy in order to handle potential provocations by some fanatics in the stadium (or even outside) best possible.

      To be honest, both Kassai and Lannoy didn't show their best performances in the past but in my opinion, this friendly match in front of almost 80,000 spectators could be considered more risky and a far more appropriate test for Brazil 2014 than for instance the presumably peaceful play-off match Iceland – Croatia in front of not even 10,000 spectators.

      Peter/Vienna

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    3. I can't see any significant connection between national team (not) qualifying for the WC and the (non) appointment of referees from the very same country.

      Furthermore I believe that events that occured almost 50 years ago ("Wembley 1966") are not relevant factor in appointing referees, it is ridiculus. And finally, the number of spectators at the stadium hardly tells us much about the importance of the match. It is problematic at least to state that the WC qualifier between Iceland and Croatia is "peaceful" (we have seen otherwice), on the other hand a friendly match is still a friendly match.

      Lannoy is not flying to Brazil. He is simply not good enough.

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    5. Nevertheless, I do not believe that it would have been a wise decision to swap Stéphane Lannoy and Svein Moen (= to appoint Svein Moen for this prestigious encounter). Like in each national league, there are also high-risk matches on an international amicable level where experienced high-profile referees are required. For me, England - Germany undoubtedly is one of them and will always be. An experienced referee can also have a positive influence on the fans' behaviour and thus minimize the risk of incidences between the crowds. To my mind, Wembley with a capacity of 90,000 spectators in combination with Germany as apponent and considering past occurences definitely needs such a referee.

      Peter/Vienna

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    6. I agree with Anonymous here, Peter, you will excuse me.
      A friendly is always a friendly, even though it is England - Germany. Nobody is interested to watch it in order to evaluate the referee.
      Under the WC point of view, Iceland - Croatia is more important for FIFA committee.
      In addition to that, I also don't think that FIFA could take into account as relevant for Lannoy presence the fact that France will be (probably) out.
      Anyway, and that's clear, I respect your opinion :)
      Regards

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    7. Peter, I'm not saying that England v. Germany friendly clash does not require an Elite (or at least Elite development) official. I do not share your opinion that Moen wouldn't be able to handle this encounter, but basically that is not important right now. I'm just saying that the appointment of Lannoy for this match has nothing to do with e.g. observing him as a candidate for the WC. The only connection with WC is IMO that some referees might be appointed for top friendly clashes as some sort of "consolation" (Lannoy for ENG-GER, Benquerenca for ITA-GER etc.).

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    8. I overlooked for a moment that Benquerenca of course is not on the short-list. Disregard the very last sentence.

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    9. It is actually a shame but my personal worry is that Lannoy is taken only due to politic reasons...France is a strong federation and will make some pressure...I think also that Lannoy is not qualified enough for the World Cup..just read the reports here and watch his last Champions League performances

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    10. If they reason in this way just for one referee, it is useless all the worjk they are doing with the other officials, in order to decide who deserves to be called. Trentalange is observing many names in the last times. In this scenario, Lannoy going to WC just because he is French, would be an offense.

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    11. That would be reality, Chefren.
      The performance principle we are used to experience in UEFA competitions (with small exceptions) cannot be transmitted to FIFA. Political decisions are dominating certain things (I remind you on Clattenburg's Olympic Games final nomination that was planned even before the competition had actually started).

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    12. Such a abomination... Our only hope that this will not repeat itself is Clément Turpin being ready in 2016...
      S'il tu plaît, Clément, grandir!

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    13. To clarify that: I don't say Lannoy, if chosen, will be only chosen due to his nationality. But in principle, this can happen. Some nations, such as Argentina or even Germany, are expected to have a World Cup place and in my book France could count to them, too.

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    14. I don't know whether Lannoy will be taken but Thomas, eventhough it's obvious that Clément Turpin is the best french referee for at least 2 or 3 years, I don't think he will be ready for Euro 2016 in France, at least according to UEFA ranking and so on.
      Indeed, he's only a First category referee and the best plan for him is to become an Elite Development referee in June 2014. I think he'll have to wait 2018 WC.
      Moreover, one doesn't have to forget Gautier: I think he's going to be the chosen one for Euro 2016.

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    15. IMO France struggles to have a real world class referee ever since Marc Batta. Gilles Veissiere was a way overrated for my taste (remember some disgraceful performances of him at the top level). Then Duhamel and Layec - never top referees. And now Lannoy. Chapron in elite development "for ages", not good enough for elite. Don't know much about Turpin or Gautier, hope one of them could really become world class.

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    16. Sars was a good referee.
      Turpin is 31, I think he has enough time to become a world class referee, considering his current performances.

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    17. I agree on Sars. He was good but it was not enough for a World Cup. Eric Poulat was higher rated at that time.
      In my opinion UEFA should start to think about a CL debut for Turpin.

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    18. I think it will be next year, I don't see him for MD5 or MD6.

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  45. In any case, does anybody (as I do) have the slightest of sympathy for Monsieur Lannoy? I mean, I felt he was commendable in Poland/Ukraine, which culminated in a 1/2 final appointment.
    However, unfortunately for him, he got injured shortly after the tournament which in turn ruled him out of most of last season. Shame really, as I felt he would "kick-on"after the tournament he had.
    Nevertheless, while in rehabilitation, officials like Kuipers and Mazic have leapfrogged him the pecking order and are now in pole position for Brazil.
    If you would have told me 12 months ago: Kuipers and Mazic would be chosen over Lannoy, I would think it were a joke.

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    1. Of course it is too bad for him, but we must remind ourselves he was pushed for WC 10 and EURO 12 as well in the first place.
      Same counts however for Benquerença, who was ahead of Proença and a whole lot of other Elite referees somewhere around 2010-11. Then came his injury and a year later his countryman was UEFA's no.1.
      One man's meat is another man's poison. It is how sports at the highest level work.

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  46. Off topic:
    A very interesting solution to goal-line problems from Andreas Rettig, the Bundesliga general manager. He would like to see tests with Google Glass, the new technology which enables the user to use computer functions on a pair of glasses.
    Rettig envisions referees as able to view replays of controversial situations on their 'computer-glasses.
    The main difference between Google Glass and other solutions for refereeing blunders, according to Rettig, is that the referee doesn't have to listen to an external source, thereby undermining the authority of the referee.

    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/fussball-bundesliga-rettig-bringt-google-brillen-fuer-schiedsrichter-ins-gespraech-1.1820079

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  47. Luxemburg - Montenegro: Tobias Welz (GER)

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  48. Friendly match 19 November: Norway-Scotland in Molde, Norway, with a kick-off time of 19.00 CET:

    Referee: Martin Strömbergsson (Sweden)
    Assistant referees: Daniel Gustavsson and Per Brogevik (Sweden)

    /Swedish observer

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  49. Who does generally appoint referees for friendly matches ? Busacca ? Collina ? FIFA ref. committe ? Confederation ref. committee ? Host country ask and invite for a referee ?

    Thks

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  50. Normally it is the hosting federation as far as I am informed.

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    1. I also heard that the referees are invited by the hosting federation but I wonder how this procedure should work since they cannot anticipate which of them are already reserved by UEFA or FIFA considering their policy of confidentiality.

      And who ensures that not only Elite, Elite development and First-class referees are picked? Usually one can identify some correlation between the "importance of a match" and the status of the referee - I doubt that UEFA/FIFA do not exert influence on it.

      Peter/Vienna

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    2. I think, the referees get more money in the friendlies if they are in a higher category, so an Elite referee is more expensive for the host nation.
      Furthermore, I think, the host/the organizer of the match asks a federation for a referee not for a special one. And the federations do know, whether their referees are already nominated by UEFA or FIFA.

      So, e.g. the FA asked DFB for a referee team for England-Chile, and DFB decided to send Meyer, Henschel, Bornhorst, Zwayer
      That is at least, how it happened a couple of years ago.

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    3. Thanks, Philipp, sounds convincing. ;-)

      Peter/Vienna

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    4. Are you sure? I'm not claiming otherwise, just wondering. For example, I'm from Slovenia, we play Canada tomorrow with Turkish referees. I cannot think of any reason why would Slovenian federation want precisely officials from Turkey? We have no specific relations with Turks, Turkey is far, travel expences will be high etc. etc. O.o

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    5. As habitually, Niklas has reason.

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    6. Actually two situations, where the teams will play in a neutral country, is in charge of the association of that country appoint the arbitrator. But if they play they play in one of the countries involved, the association that plays home to avoid suspicion, sends a request to its confederation (UEFA, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, etc.), requesting an arbitrator. And if you want you can ask for the FIFA too, as in the case of South Korea, FIFA and they sent an Argentine referee. Of course they should put in the request when they intend to spend with the displacement of the referees. But still the associations need not (although recommended) follow these guidelines. And choosing the referee he wants

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  51. Emil Archambault18/11/13 16:44

    Off topic: Alan Kelly becomes Assistant training manager. Quite young to end a referee career...
    http://www.proreferees.com/news--pro-make-significant-double-appointment.php

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  52. Regarding referees for friendlies the host association normally invite another association for a referee team. What normally happens after, is the countries swap. eg England 150 year anniversary match Scotland referee, Last week Scotland friendly = English referee. Host association will pay referee fees, travels costs paid by the referee's association

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  53. Comment # 200.

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