January 4, 2014

World Cup Referees - Predictions for North- and Central America and the Caribbean

That's part 3 of the series in that I am trying to predict the composition of the referee team to be nominated for World Cup 2014. After having already concentrated on AFC and CAF, this text will now examine the situation in the North- and Central American and Caribbean Federation (CONCACAF). The remaining confederations are supposed to follow so that a final list of predicted World Cup referees will emerge.


In the following lists, you can find the cell "Community Vote". The percentages you can find there refers to our game "Your World Cup 2014" conducted at the beginning of this month. They hence equate the relative frequency of the respective referees' appearance in the community's World Cup lists. This means that this percentage shows in how many of your votes their name has appeared. In addition, you can get a quick overview on the amount of FIFA organized matches the respective referees have taken charge of during the last three years. These matches include World Cup 2010 matches, qualifiers and play-offs for World Cup 2014, youth tournaments (U-20/U-17), Club World Cups from 2010 to 2013 and finally the Olympic Games 2012 (= "FIFA 10-13"). Like last time, the problem is that we don't exactly know how many referees are supposed to be nominated from these minor confederations. The predictions will take into account both possibilities - 3+1 and 4+1.

CONCACAF (Confederation of North- and Central American and Caribbean Association Football):


REFEREE with ASSISTANT REFEREES
MA
Date of Birth
FIFA 10-13
Vote
NORTH- and CENTRAL AMERICA and CARIBBEAN (CONCACAF) - 7
Referee
Joel AGUILAR
SLV
02.07.1975
8
96%
Assistant 1
William TORRES MEJÍA
SLV
22.02.1975
10

Assistant 2
Juan Francisco ZUMBA
SLV
19.09.1982
9

Referee
Roberto GARCÍA
MEX
24.10.1974
14
71%
Assistant 1
José Luis CAMARGO
MEX
25.09.1972
11

Assistant 2
Alberto MORÍN
MEX
10.08.1980
11

Referee
Mark GEIGER
USA
25.08.1974
14
90%
Assistant 1
Mark HURD
USA
10.09.1976
14

Assistant 2
Joe FLETCHER
CAN
09.11.1971
13

Referee
Walter LÓPEZ CASTELLANOS
GUA
25.09.1980
12
67%
Assistant 1
Leonel LEAL
CRC
21.11.1976
12

Assistant 2
Gersón LÓPEZ CASTELLANOS
GUA
20.06.1983
13

Referee
Jair MARRUFO
USA
17.06.1977
8
29%
Assistant 1
Eric BORIA
USA
28.10.1974
9

Assistant 2
Ricardo MORGAN
JAM
30.01.1972
10

Referee
Roberto MORENO
PAN
03.04.1970
9
80%
Assistant 1
Daniel WILLIAMSON
PAN
30.07.1977
10

Assistant 2
Keytzel CORRALES
NCA
17.04.1980
11

Referee
Marco RODRÍGUEZ
MEX
10.11.1973
8
72%
Assistant 1
Marvin TORRENTERA
MEX
22.09.1969
12

Assistant 2
Marcos QUINTERO
MEX
21.04.1973
12

 

Let's start with two quite sure names. El Salvador's Joel Aguilar has been one of the outstanding figures of CONCACAF refereeing in recent years. The 38 year-old teacher was already present at World Cup 2010 as fourth official. After that he took charge of the CONCACAF Champions League final in 2011 and above all handled two Gold Cup finals in a row - USA vs Mexico in 2011 and USA vs Panama in 2013. Always assisted by his countrymen William Torres Mejía and Juan Francisco Zumba, Aguilar was invited to two FIFA tournaments during the selection period for 2014: At Club World Cup 2011, he took control over FC Barcelona's semifinal win over Al-Sadd and two years later, at Confederations Cup 2013 in Brazil, he refereed two group stage matches of the Nigerian team against Tahiti and Spain before assisting Enrique Osses as fourth official in the semifinal between Brazil and Uruguay. Although I never had the chance to see Aguilar in his domestic league or even in a Champions League match, it is quite sure that he has undoubtfully obtained his ticket to Rio de Janeiro.

One of the most charismatic and exceptional referees present at the last World Cups was, in my opinion, Mexican Marco Rodríguez. The 40-year old, who is fondly called "Chiquidracula" by Mexican fans due to his visage, could become one of not many referees attending three World Cups in a row. The last official managing that has been Oscar Julian Ruíz of Colombia, who is currently sitting in FIFA's Referee Committee. Rodríguez, who works as a gym teacher for a German school in Mexico City, has been subject to plenty of controversies over the last years, e.g. having shown two yellow cards at the same time in an important Mexican league match, for which he received a 5-match-suspension. His Gold Cup appearances were not that remarkable except a quarterfinal match between Jamaica and the USA in 2011. 
When you retrospect the past two World Cups, Rodríguez has often proven to be a quite fussy and pedantic referee not shunning the spotlight. And without any doubt, his last World Cup performance in Chile vs Spain has been nothing else than poor. After this tournament, FIFA did not test him that much - a semifinal at Club World Cup 2012 and two matches at U-17 World Cup 2013. However, those performances have shown that he has changed his style a bit, having become more lenient, allowing play to be more fluent than in former years. Maybe he has recognized that this is the only chance to qualify for Brazil 2014. He was recently honoured by CONCACAF.com's community as the Best Referee of the year 2013 (García was 2nd placed), which shows their estimation of this referee. I have the feeling that, due to his large experience, Rodríguez is a definite name for the World Cup list, even though this would not be in accord with my own sentiments.

Well, it is maybe not that clear that Rodríguez goes to Brazil. One reason for these doubts is his rising countryman Roberto García, who participated in 2011 FIFA U17 World Cup in his home country. There, he officiated five matches, three of them with Brazilian involvement including their loss in the third-place match against Germany, where he overall conveyed a very good impression. His international experience is naturally not that large as his countryman's one. In 2009, he had refereed one match at Gold Cup, before he took control over the 2nd leg of the Mexican league final in April 2012 between Santos Laguna and Monterrey. 
In 2012 and 2013, FIFA continued to intensely test him: first at the Olympic Games 2012, where he conducted a group stage match of the hosting nation Great Britain and then at U-20 World Cup 2013 in Turkey. In Istanbul, García and his assistant referees José Camargo and Alberto Morín were selected to take charge of the final between Uruguay and France.
Besides, he appeared as a calm and lenient referee, while his biggest deficit is his relatively average fitness. There is one point which could define or indicate a tendency exposing FIFA's preference between these two Mexicans: the assistant referees. As mentioned above, Camargo and Morín are in García's trio. In South Africa, both accompanied Rodríguez. So why was their a change? Well, maybe because these two assistant referees are considered to be the best Mexican ARs at the moment. This circumstance could be a clever move from the responsible men, as it makes it quite difficult to leave García at home. In this composition, there is one strong Mexican trio with an experienced referee and AR1 (Rodríguez), and on the other hand, there is a less experienced, but good and promising referee with two very good ARs (García). From my point of view, both trios will be selected by Busacca. At any rate, it would be pretty much unfair if García has to follow the World Cup sitting in front of the TV.

Similar to García's progress, American Mark Geiger has caught our and FIFA's attention during the past years. The professional referee took charge of 2011 U-20 World Cup in Colombia (Brazil vs Portugal). This tournament showed that he has potential and huge chances to reach the World Cup. At the Olympic Games 2012, he intensified this impression with two matches, including Spain's loss against Japan. In both matches, he sent off players for dogso and showed a basically good application and interpretation of the Laws of the Game. Geiger's most obvious point to improve is his personality and managing the match with soft skills. At Club World Cup 2013, he officiated the match for the 5th place - a pretty meaningless match, one could dare to say. His assistant referees had a bit bad luck in this match as two goals were scored from offside positions and not disallowed. One of these ARs is Joe Fletcher from Canada - maybe this can turn out to be a small advantage of this trio: former World Cup assistant referee Hector Vergara is a member of the referee committee in FIFA. So he can very likely make some pressure or at least say a good word for Geiger's team. In case of 4+1, I expect this trio as "no.4", meaning that Geiger would act as main referee but definitely a level under the three other officials analyzed above. One should also keep in mind that the US federation did not have a referee in 2010 and only a fourth official in 2006, so the time could have come.

At this point, the other US American referee can be quickly mentioned: Jair Marrufo. He is quite young and had already been on the pre-list for World Cup 2010 back in 2008 and 2009. Also this time, he stayed on the list until the end, even though it is quite apparent that his chances equate zero. Probably, all this has a political or internal background we cannot know. At any rate, I definitely do not expect him on the final list inspite of three satisfying performances at U-17 World Cup 2013 - his qualifiers have been too unimportant and he did not get much at the last Gold Cup editions either.

Unfortunately, same could count for Panama's Roberto Moreno. In my view, the very experienced official would deserve a ticket to Brazil. His performances and achievements have been very good for many years which he managed to confirm at U-20 World Cup 2013. FIFA and CONCACAF have put much trust in him displayed by the vitally important World Cup qualifiers refereed by Moreno in 2008/09 and also 2012/13 (among others, Mexico vs USA, Costa Rica vs Mexico, Jamaica vs USA). At Club World Cup 2010, he also whistled Inter's semifinal vs Seongnam. Roberto Moreno is, by the way, the currently "oldest" international referee on the FIFA list: being international since 1996, he has went into his 19th year as FIFA referee on 1st January - unbelievable. Therefore he also emphasized that he will finish his career after the World Cup, independent from being present at or absent from this tournament. Moreover, his AR1 Daniel Williamson is surely one of the best assistant referees from this zone, which I can say on the basis of many Gold Cup matches in which he has been stellar. 
But, like all football associations on this level, it is quite sure that politics play the essential role in the end. And here I think, Moreno is only the no.6, as there is still another referee who might savour more support in the committee.

Guatemala's Walter López Castellanos has this huge advantage: the currently most powerful person in CONCACAF refereeing within FIFA seems to be Carlos Batres, who was at World Cup 2010 as a referee himself. López Castellanos joined U-20 World Cup 201 in Colombia and showed, taking everything into consideration, decent performances in mostly high profile matches. He has also arrived at the peak of refereeing in CONCACAF competitions, underlined by his appointment for (and good performance in) the Gold Cup semifinal between Honduras and Mexico in 2011. In the World Cup qualifiers, he controlled Mexico's goalless draw with the USA at Estádio Azteca in a very poor way though, missing a clear penalty and, in addition to that, wrongly overruling his brother's (assistant referee Gersón López) flag for a penalty kick. His appearances at U-20 World Cup 2013 have in my opinion shown that this young referee still needs time and is a bit overloaded with the expectations put upon him that early. I would definitely not select him for Brazil, even though his AR1 Leonel Leal from Costa Rica would actually deserve to be active at the World Cup. But as previously outlined, the political impacts might undermine the performance principle and a sensible selection of the World Cup officials.

Surely, this analysis does not go that much into detail. CONCACAF refereeing is still a blind spot in this blog. Nonetheless, I expect three sure names (Aguilar, García and Rodríguez) and one further main referee in the case of 4+1 (Geiger). López would be the standby official in this case. If it is only 3+1, I would rather predict Geiger on the standby place with no changes among the three sure names. But all this is, to be honest, very vague.


REFEREE with ASSISTANT REFEREES
MA
Date of Birth
CONCACAF – 4 REFEREE TEAMS + 1 STANDBY TEAM (?)
Referee
Joel AGUILAR
SLV
02.07.1975
Assistant 1
William TORRES MEJÍA
SLV
22.02.1975
Assistant 2
Juan Francisco ZUMBA
SLV
19.09.1982
Referee
Roberto GARCÍA
MEX
24.10.1974
Assistant 1
José Luis CAMARGO
MEX
25.09.1972
Assistant 2
Alberto MORÍN
MEX
10.08.1980
Referee
Mark GEIGER
USA
25.08.1974
Assistant 1
Mark HURD
USA
10.09.1976
Assistant 2
Joe FLETCHER
CAN
09.11.1971
Referee
Marco RODRÍGUEZ
MEX
10.11.1973
Assistant 1
Marvin TORRENTERA
MEX
22.09.1969
Assistant 2
Marcos QUINTERO
MEX
21.04.1973




Referee
Walter LÓPEZ CASTELLANOS
GUA
25.09.1980
Assistant 1
Leonel LEAL
CRC
21.11.1976
Assistant 2
Gersón LÓPEZ CASTELLANOS
GUA
20.06.1983

28 Comments:

  1. This time it is more difficult than CAF and especially AFC in my opinion.
    I think that the only 100% sure name is Aguilar, indeed he is at first place in your analysis. Then, several questions to analyze.
    The Mexican duel between Rodriguez and Garcia is very interesting. As you correctly wrote, there is a big difference between them regarding the experience. When we talk about Rodirguez, we talk about a referee who already joined twice the WC. Roberto Garcia on the other hand is in a certain way at the beginning of an important international career at high level. The appointment for U20 wc final was a very good achievement but of course he must get more in the next times, in order to gain experience.
    So, the experience talks in favor of Marco Rodriguez, and I agree with you on this point, he probably will be at WC. About the assistant referees, we can't be sure of the fact that everything will remain such as published two years ago in the first prelist, so we should not exclude, in my opinion, some "opportunity-choice", if you mean what I understand (for example, calling Rodriguez but with Garcia assistant referees, and the same could be in Europe for the Spanish duel between Velasco and Undiano).
    Then, the choice between the two USA officials seems sure. Geiger is the only one who has chances to be selected. Not enough made by Marrufo until now.
    The last duel, if we can compare these two referees, it's similarly very interesting: the big experience of Roberto Moreno at his 19th year with the badge (incredible) and on the other side the "young" Lopez from Guatemala.
    I of course would prefer Moreno, at his really last chance and with an impressive palmares.
    So my final choice, hoping for CONCACAF a 4+1:

    1) Aguilar
    2) Rodriguez
    3) Geiger
    4) Moreno
    5) Garcia (reserve)

    In case of 3+1 out Garcia.

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  2. Niclas: I completely agree with your quintet of trios.

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  3. Anonymous4/1/14 17:49

    If 33 is the number, as Moreno said, then one of AFC, CAF, CONCACAF will only have 3+1 refs, assuming that OFC will have 1 ref at the World Cup.

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    1. If it is like in 2010, OFC has 1+1. UEFA very likely 10+1, CONMEBOL 6+1. So we would have 20 referees from these regions. If 33 is the correct number, there should be 1x 4+1 and 2x 3+1.

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    2. Anonymous4/1/14 18:14

      I believe this time OFC will only have 1 ref (no reserve), UEFA 10+1, CONMEBOL 6+1, AFC, CAF, CONCACAF 2 x 4+1 and 1 x 3+1. The absence of OFC refs at the Confederations Cup and Club World Cup seems to indicate that FIFA will only take 1 ref from OFC, if any.

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  4. Geiger was excellent at the Gold '13, especially Panama - Cuba. Same goes for Aguilar.

    Are Campbell (Jamaica), Quesada (CRC) and Wijngaarde (SUR) already too "old"?

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    1. Campbell had not any chance because 1968 born and now he has retired.
      In 2011, prior to the first list of preselected officials for 2014 WC by FIFA, there were rumors reporting that Wijngaarde (SUR) was already training for this WC. Of course, now we can say that these rumors were false.
      And about Quesada, I think he was never taken into account...

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    2. In fact both Wijngaarde and Quesada were on the first pre-list in 2011. But after the number of officials was reduced from 10 to 7, Bogle, Wijngaarde and also Quesada were out.

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  5. Anonymous5/1/14 02:23

    I can't wait for predictions for Europe

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  6. Anonymous5/1/14 07:26

    History suggests FIFA always favourize referees from MEX, so both Mex Referees plus Aguilar (SLV) will be selected as main referees IMO. Geiger is a good referee, has a real chance for WC, but referees from USA traditionally are not highly rated by FIFA. I can say that only Marrufo is certainly out, the other three names, Geiger, Lopez and Moreno all have a fighting chance.

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  7. According to TSM plug: Howard Webb earns around £120,000 a year. While Atkinson bags £90,000 and Clattenburg £75,000. These are some very decent salaries.
    Do you know how much referees around the world earn?

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    1. £120,000 - €145,000
      £90,000 - €109,000
      £75,000 - €91,000

      For those who use Euros instead of Pounds Stirling ;)

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    2. Thanks for reminding me on that.
      I created an overview about some European countries for this matter.
      Most data are reliable, some were taken from maybe already outdated sources.
      http://www.uploadarea.de/files/ogplvcofewz3ab1bmj6b3hg63.xls

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  8. Interesting....thanks for that.

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  9. A few comments on CONCACAF, which I follow very closely:

    1) I realize I have become a broken record on this, but my opinion on Aguilar still stands. He is an extraordinarily weak referee. Yes, he will go to the World Cup. Yes, he gets the top games in CONCACAF because he is viewed as the best non-Mexican or non-American referee. But he is weak. He gets overwhelmed in tough matches. He's had a couple good performances that you all have noticed at times, but you don't see him on a regular basis. Go back to the 2009 Gold Cup. Or to the end of the Mexico v Panama qualifier a few months ago. He does not have a strong personality and will not have the courage to do the right thing when tested. He'll be at the World Cup. But I bet you will all finally see him fail. I'll state it as simply as possible: Aguilar is not a good referee.

    2) Wijngaarde, Campbell and Quesada were all mentioned. On top of Campbell being too old, this trio is just not that good. It's worth saying here that there have been real problems with referee development in CONCACAF. Outside Mexico, the US and maybe Guatemala, we do not produce top-class referees. There are no good domestic leagues to test these officials and our Champions League isn't like UEFA's, where they can get regular assignments. If you watch the Gold Cup and see some of our "top" referees, you will be frightened. I'd imagine only the CAF is worse at this point. Just like Aguilar, all three of these referees can have a good match. But--even more so than Aguilar--on a match-to-match basis they are frighteningly poor. Be thankful that they were not seriously considered for the World Cup.

    3) The Garcia v Rodriguez battle is an extraordinarily interesting one. Like Niclas, I've observed that Rodriguez has changed his style. But Garcia is, quite simply, the better referee. I'm not sure what is going to happen here. If it's on merit, Garcia should be there as a referee and Rodriguez should either be the #4 or simply stay home. I'm not sure what good it does to bring Rodriguez, for example, if you're not planning to use him in the knockout stages.

    4) Geiger will go to the World Cup. As an American who is friends with him, I think he's earned it on merit. But even so, let's not forget that Esse Baharmast has become close to Busacca (Baharmast was at both the U20s and CWC that Geiger attended) and appears to be a strong backer of the trio. You also have Vergara pushing Fletcher. And, at a higher level of politics, you have Sunil Gulati, President of US Soccer, now on the FIFA ExCom. The US didn't get a referee at 2010 (deservedly) and Stott was only a 4th at 2006 (I think he should have been ahead of Rodriguez, but that's in the past). The US is due a referee. Add in the whole controversy about the 2022 World Cup bid and you just have a situation where there's no way Geiger will be left at home, I think.

    5) Lopez and Moreno, in my opinion, are the two best referees in CONCACAF who are not from Mexico or the USA right now. If I were selecting purely on merit, I'd have Garcia, Geiger, Moreno and Lopez. Of course, that's not going to happen. I think you're looking at Rodriguez, Geiger, Aguilar as the locks. I think the fourth and fifth slots go to Garcia and Lopez... I am just not sure which one goes as a fourth official only.

    6) Lopez is a good referee, in my opinion. I think another future talent for CONCACAF is Cruz Alvarado, of Costa Rica. Our 2018 contingent could be very strong, in fact. Garcia, Geiger, Lopez would be an excellent trio to start from. 2018 should be a very strong World Cup for CONCACAF referees. 2014? I don't have as much faith.

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    1. Thank you very much for those statements. It is very insightful for us. As I wrote, we don't have the opportunity to follow CONCACAF football that deeply.

      I am quite sure that Hugo Cruz is among the candidates for 2018 World Cup. I have seen him twice and both times I was positively impressed.

      One thing would still interest me: what about Canada? Some years ago, there was Paul Ward, who got much but suddenly disappeared from the big stage and did not get important appointments anymore. In 2014, Petrescu and Ward have left FIFA list. Only David Gantar is remaining, whom I considered to be a potential talent in 2011...but somehow his progress seems slow, too. Furthermore, Canada has lost a place on the AR list. Do you know why the development is that poor in Canada?

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    2. Emil Archambault6/1/14 02:37

      Canada is getting better domestic league games with the arrival of three teams in MLS (Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal) and in NASL (Edmonton and Ottawa coming in next year). However, on a regular basis, few good games are available to Canadian referees. Dave Gantar is the only credible Canadian referee, and he had some ups and downs in MLS last season. Drew Fischer (born 1980) and Geoff Gamble have refereed in MLS in the past seasons as well, though they have only their National badge.
      On the AR side, Daniel Belleau and Philippe Brière have had good performances recently, as has Joe Fletcher.

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    3. There are rumors that Drew Fischer was nominated for to FIFA by Canada but FIFA rejected the nomination. This is something that almost never happens, so I'm not sure if it's true (or why it happened, if it is true).

      I have also heard that Gamble was very upset last year he wasn't nominated for FIFA status. I'm not sure if he will be considered in the future.

      Top Canadians referee in MLS now, where the appointments are handled by PRO (the organization, run by Walton, is a joint venture between MLS, USSF and CSA). Petrescu has been a favorite of Walton and has got the best assignments. Fischer is probably the #2 Canadian in MLS, with Gantar #3 and Gamble a distant #4. Ward fell out of favor in MLS a few years back, just like Navarro did prior to that. I can't tell you why development in Canada is so poor. I just know that unless something changes with Fischer, Canada is probably several years away from having another FIFA referee.

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    4. Petrescu is now officially retired off the FIFA list...and with respect to the development in Canada - that's a great question!!!! I can't tell you either. Politics plays a huge part of the upgrade process and also grinds development almost to a complete hault. i don't understand why some things are kept so secretive when it comes to development and access to information. i get a lot of my information and study/learning materials from USSF sites. Development info is near impossible to find from any CSA or provincial association...they keep that stuff under some serious lock and key, which makes no sense to me at all!!! You would think that the CSA would want their officials to get better and make their training material accessible to everyone.

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    5. Emil Archambault7/1/14 03:14

      The CSA has very little to do with referee development...until they get on the national list, referees are under the responsibility of their provincial associations.

      Dave Gantar had problems in MLS this year. I remember in particular one game where he whistled full time as a player of the winning team was on a breakaway toward an empty goal.

      As for Gamble, he was born in 1977, so he is getting a little old to enter the FIFA list. No Canadian AR is refereeing in MLS except Belleau and Brière. Mathieu Bourdeau is a fourth official in MLS, and might graduate to full MLS ref at some point soon. I might point out 2/3 FIFA ARs, both women FIFA ARs, and Mathieu Bourdeau are all from Quebec.

      Finally, Marie-Soleil Beaudoin just got her FIFA referee badge for the first time. Silviu Petrescu remains on the National list and in MLS despite reaching the mandatory FIFA retirement age.

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    6. Anonymous7/1/14 13:41

      Why Ward suddenly fell out of favour with CONCACAF and PRO, after a promissing start a few years ago?
      Is it true that Fisher was nominated by CSA, but declined by FIFA?

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    7. Ward had some poor performances in MLS. I always thought his removal from MLS was unfair or unwarranted, because I agree he had a promising start and thought he was Canada's #1. But the powers that be in MLS/PRO did not agree.

      I have no idea why he fell out of favor in CONCACAF. Perhaps CSA just started pushing Gantar more, knowing that Ward was intent on retiring. But that's just a guess.

      The rumor about Fischer comes, in my case, from a pretty good source. But it would be SO unlikely that I still have my doubts. I am trying to confirm.

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    8. Thanks to both of you. I think this explains a lot. Very nice to hear something about CONCACAF.

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    9. Anonymous8/1/14 13:56

      The proportion of the men refs (1) vs women refs (4) on their list shows the difference between the male and female soccer in Canada.

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    10. Emil Archambault8/1/14 15:39

      Nope. In Quebec (where MJ Charbonneau and Suzanne Morrisset come from), there are only two semi-pro women's team. The highest level in women's soccer after that is university soccer and Senior AAA (amateur). There are talks of establishing a semi-pro provincial league (as there has been for the past two years for men) in a year or two.

      I don't have an answer as to why Canada has produced such high-quality women referees. The referee organizations I have been part of are mostly male, and there is (again, in Quebec) no sex separation (ie only women refereeing women).
      Carloe-Anne Chenard, undoubtedly Canada's best referee, refereed for a few years the (professional men's teams) Montreal Impact and the Vancouver Whitecaps in the now-defunct USL.

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  10. Anonymous8/1/14 19:29

    I was referring to the level of Canadian woman soccer vs man soccer in FIFA competitions. That difference is reflected in the number of male refs vs female refs on the Canadian FIFA list.

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  11. This is perfect while counting down the days till the fifa world cup!
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    2014 FIFA World Cup Bet

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