February 18, 2014

Europa League - Round of 32 - Referee Appointments (I)

UEFA has designated the following referees and assistant referees to form the teams that will control the sixteen Europa League Round of 32 first legs.Pierluigi Collina will observe France's referee talent Clément Turpin, David Elleray has been nominated as referee observer for Felix Zwayer and the last committee member, Herbert Fandel, will follow Aleksei Kulbakov's performance.


20 February 2014

18:00 CET, Saturn, Ramenskoye (RUS)
Anzhi - KRC Genk
Referee: Alon Yefet (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Danny Krasikow (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Amihay Yesohua Mozes (ISR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Eli Hacmon (ISR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Menashe Masiah (ISR)
Fourth Official: Nissan Davidy (ISR)
Referee Observer: Gevorg Hovhannisyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Kuanysh Kanapyanov (KAZ)

19:00 CET, GSP Stadium, Nicosia (CYP) - re-located due to political situation in the Ukraine.
Dynamo Kyiv - Valencia CF
Referee: Liran Liany (ISR) - replacing Martin Atkinson's team
Assistant Referee 1: Shabtai Nahmias (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: David Elias Biton (ISR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Roy Reinshreiber (ISR)
Fourth Official: Sharon Eyal (ISR)
Referee Observer: Michael Argyrou (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Adonis Procopiou (CYP)
Blog Referee Observer: Philipp S. (GER) 

19:00 CET, Stadio Toumba, Salonika (GRE)
PAOK - SL Benfica
Referee: Wolfgang Stark (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Hendrik Salver (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Mike Pickel (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Fourth Official: Christoph Bornhorst (GER)
Referee Observer: Oguz Sarvan (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Johan van Kouterik (NED)

19:00 CET, Stadium: U Nisy, Liberec (CZE)
Slovan Liberec - AZ Alkmaar
Referee: Alexandru Tudor (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aurel Onita (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Octavian Sovre (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ovidiu Alin Hategan (ROU)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Pavel Cristian Balaj (ROU)
Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ghinguleac (ROU)
Referee Observer: Adrian D. Casha (MLT)
UEFA Delegate: Lucien Kayser (LUX)

19:00 CET, Dnipro Arena, Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
FC Dnipro - Tottenham
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devis (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Javier Aguilar Rodríguez (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Carlos Clos Gómez (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alejandro Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Roberto Díaz Pérez Del Palomar (ESP)
Referee Observer: Christakis Skapoullis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell (SVN)
Blog Referee Observer: Edward (GRE)

19:00 CET, Juventus Stadium, Turin (ITA)
Juventus Turin - Trabzonspor
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitry Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Andrei Hetsikau (BLR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Dzianis Shcharbakou (BLR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Siarhei Tsynkevich (BLR)
Fourth Official: Aleh Maslianka (BLR)
Referee Observer: Herbert Fandel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Petr Fousek (CZE)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

19:00 CET, Chornomorets, Odessa (UKR)
Chornomorets - Olympique Lyon
Referee: Craig Thomson (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Alan Mulvanny (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Damien Macgraith (IRL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Steven McLean (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Fourth Official: David McGeachie (SCO)
Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Ori Shilo (ISR)
Blog Referee Observer: Thomas H. (NED)

19:00 CET, Sport og Event Park Esbjerg, Esbjerg (DEN)
Esbjerg - Fiorentina
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Tikhon Kalugin (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Anton Averianov (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Maksim Layushkin (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Vitaly Meshkov (RUS)
Fourth Official: Dmitry Mosyakin (RUS)
Referee Observer: Paul Allaerts (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Ivan Lekov (BUL)
Blog Referee Observer: Nur H. (ENG)

21:05 CET, Stadio Olimpico, Roma (ITA)
Lazio Roma - Ludogorets
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Robert Hartmann (GER)
Fourth Official: Holger Henschel (GER)
Referee Observer: David Elleray (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Gunther De Saedeleer (BEL)
Blog Referee Observer: Edward (GRE)

21:05 CET, Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam (NED)
Ajax Amsterdam - RB Salzburg
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Frédéric Cano (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tony Chapron (FRA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Nicolas Rainville (FRA)
Fourth Official: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Referee Observer: Pierluigi Collina (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Luis Cuervas Del Real (ESP)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

21:05 CET, Stadium: Bloomfield, Tel Aviv (ISR)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - FC Basel
Referee: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabañero Martínez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: José Fernández Miranda (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Fernando Teixeira Vitienes (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Fourth Official: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Referee Observer: Peter Fröjdfeldt (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Barry Bright (ENG)

21:05 CET, Estádio do Dragão, Porto (POR)
FC Porto - Eintracht Frankfurt
Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Žunič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Roland Brandner (AUT)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Dragoslav Perič (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Dejan Balažič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Robert Vukan (SVN)
Referee Observer: Alan Snoddy (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Dusko Grabovac (CRO)
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

21:05 CET, Benito Villamarín, Sevilla (ESP)
Real Betis - Rubin Kazan
Referee: Serge Gumienny (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Frank Bleyen (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Kristof Meers (BEL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Alexandre Boucaut (BEL)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Luc Wouters (BEL)
Fourth Official: Yves de Neve (BEL)
Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Patrick Wattebled (FRA)

21:05 CET, Swansea Stadium, Swansea (WAL)
Swansea City - SSC Napoli
Referee: Ivan Bebek (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomislav Petrović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Miro Grgić (CRO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Domagoj Vučkov (CRO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Goran Gabrilo (CRO)
Fourth Official: Dalibor Conjar (CRO)
Referee Observer: Marinus Koopman (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Panagiotis Chatzialexiou (GER)

21:05 CET, Stadion Ljudski vrt, Maribor (SVN)
NK Maribor - Sevilla CF
Referee: István Vad (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: István Albert (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Zsolt Szpisjak (HUN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Sándor Andó-Szabó (HUN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Zsolt Szabó (HUN)
Fourth Official: László Viszokai (HUN)
Referee Observer: Zbigniew Przesmycki (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Ionel Piscanu (ROU)

21:05 CET, Štruncovy Sady Stadión, Plzen (CZE)
Viktoria Plzen - Shakhtar Donetsk
Referee: Tasos Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Christos Akrivos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Damianos Efthimiadis (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ilias Spathas (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Stavros Tritsonis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Dimitrios Gagas (GRE)
Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeckere (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Tomás Gea (AND)
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

77 Comments:

  1. PLC comes for Turpin!

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  2. Cardinal tests for Messrs Juj, Kulbakov, Zwayer and especially Turpin. There is a nice blend of youth and experience. Pleased with Lahoz for our game with Dnipro.

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  3. Very very interesting appointments this time, I have many things to say.
    At first, Collina for Turpin: it seems to me clear that UEFA is absolutely not content with Gautier and they are looking desperately for a reliable French referee, after Lannoy retirement. What Gautier did at first at EURO U21 and then in the EL Play off on last August was enough.
    I would dare to say that, in case of good performance, Turpin will be immediately pushed instead of Gautier.
    Then, on the other names: we can't ignore the appointment of Zunic as AR1 in Jug match. I think it is fair, at least in Europa League he will have his chances, but now it seems even clearer that in CL Skomina will get another assistant and not him.
    I'm pleased by the appointments of the "long time" and "experienced" officials, as reward for their career: of course I mean Yefet, Gumienny and Tudor.
    Kulbakov has a very important test under the eyes of Fandel.
    Basel, after Stefani mistake, got an Elite official and this can be logically explained, even though AR2 in this match, Miranda, wrongly allowed two offside goals in his last appearence: Bayern - Manchester City.
    Nice comeback at a certain important level also for Vad, even though I can guess that UEFA is not really interested in his performance. Sidiropoulos and Zwayer at their debut in a KO stage, Thomson with an Irish assistant at his side.
    This week the EL seems to be more and more important than CL for us.
    Enjoy....



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    1. Great appointment for Turpin.
      It seems as if Derek Rose has done a crucial mistake too much in Paris-Olympiakos.

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  4. Anonymous18/2/14 14:01

    Kulbakov and Karasev. It´s necessary promote rusian referees.

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    1. Anonymous20/2/14 12:56

      In fact, Alexey Kulbakov is from Belarus, not from Russia

      Regards,
      Dmitry

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  5. Anonymous18/2/14 15:30

    EL is one smaller competition with poors cashs and footballers substitutes.

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    1. Emil Archambault18/2/14 17:31

      Yeah, with such crappy clubs such as Tottenham, Juventus, Lazio, Napoli, Valencia, Ajax, Sevilla, Porto, Benfica...

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    2. I think what Anonymous is trying to get at is that the Europa League hasn't quite got the "prestige" when compared to that of the Champions League. The holders Chelsea received €10.7m when they won the competition. Compare that to the €57m Bayern Munich Pocketed when they lifted the Champions League, last May. I don't now about elsewhere on the continent, but, on these shores, not many clubs take the Europa League seriously. Especially in the Group Stages when clubs field reserve teams, concentrating more on the League campaign. Many clubs believe the tournament is more a hindrance, than a help.

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  6. Anonymous18/2/14 16:14

    Very pleased for Turpin - 2 years ago he was AAR to Chapron, now the roles are reversed, he will, I am sure, deservedly push on.
    As is mentioned above there are a number of talking points and two 'mixed teams' with SCO having an IRL assistant and SVN having an AUT assistant, both as forecast earlier in the season.

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    1. Anonymous18/2/14 16:15

      Sorry, and I meant to say, also pleased for BLR Kulbakov, another good talent with a nice appointment for him

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  7. Anonymous18/2/14 16:19

    Nice appointment for Turpin. I think this time UEFA has found an excellent, humble and reliable french referee.

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  8. Most important tests for Turpin, Kulbakov and Zwayer, but also for Sidiropoulos, Jug, Vad, Mateu Lahoz and Karasev.

    Names like Aydinus, Aytekin, Blom, Boyko, Göcek, Gräfe, Hagen, Hategan, Jakobsson, Madden, Makkelie, Marciniak, Nijhuis, Oliver, Sousa and Stavrev for the second legs?

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  9. greek referee18/2/14 17:55

    Time is out for Koukoulakis?
    Sidiropouls new greek Elite

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    1. Anonymous23/2/14 15:22

      good performance for Sidiroropoulos on PLzen-Shakhtar

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  10. Now the picture is completed and I also would like to share my comment with you. First of all I'm very pleased to see Kassai again in CL after his demoting for WC 2014. Uefa still believe on him and I think It's correct. According to few matches I followed, I still don't think Erisson is a high level refree, but I understand it's just my only judge and you all guys strongly believ on his perfomances.
    Finally I think that Turpin is the new name on which Uefa counts for 2016 championship due to the fact that Gautier didn't demostrate high reliability, so It was expected Collina's judgment.
    Very good decision to allow Zunic to re-start wtih Europe League, so he could have the possibility to return at high level with lower pressure.
    Very impressive appointment for Kulbakov for the match and for the observer it seems his match of life.
    Very disappointed for Stark in Europe League; i think that it means that ihis time is finished.
    Regards

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  11. Anonymous18/2/14 19:50

    interesting appointments. Always liked Gumienny who is one of the most underrated referees.Off course also happy for yefet and dan tudor. Together with johanesson, Kelly, Jacobsson, a group of referees who deserve the greatest respect.

    For me: deniz aytekin is better than zwayer. I hope turpin will grow because i don't believe in lannoy, gautier, chapron or any other french referee i have seen on international level.

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  12. It seems the Dynamo Kiev - Valencia game has been relocated to Cyprus due to violence in the Ukrainian capital. GSP Stadium, Nicosia will now be the venue...

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    1. The show must go on... :(

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  13. There also seems to be a change in the refereeing team...

    http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/matches/round=2000470/match=2012633/prematch/officials/index.html

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  14. Mateu Lahoz had a similar situation with Eriksson's penalty and gave a foul. Replay revealed it was a correct decision. Min. 35'.

    Good performance so far in a terrible pitch.

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    1. Unfortunately Lahoz gave a penalty to Dnipro when the contact occured outside the "box".

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  15. Zwayer gave a penalty for handball (for Ludogorets) but it is a mistake. Thank god the GK saved.

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  16. Anonymous20/2/14 21:23

    Clement Turpin (Ajax - Salzburg) with a nervous (?) start of the game. First of all, the game started 3 minutes later. This because the equipment of the goalkeeper of Ajax was not agreed. So, AR1 was really sharp in this situation. Unfortunately for Turpin this carelessness took place just today, under the eyes of Collina. Turpin's nervous start is my first conclusion through his sloppy style of walking. His anticipations are very late by moments.
    He also missed a YC for Salzburg, after astopping a promising attack in favor of Ajax. Nevertheless a good call to give Ajax #12 a YC after have overthrown his opponent: penalty kick, 0-1 to Salzburg.

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    1. Anonymous20/2/14 21:32

      Watching the same game, because of Turpin - Collina duo, and having a question about advatage. I have been taught differently, as seen by Turpin in the situation Anonymous was quoting for missed YC for Salzburg. He threw the hand up for advantage and then the next pass by Ajax went too long and Turpin whistled for foul, occured about 4 seconds ago. What do you think?

      / BC

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    2. A 50m-goal now...

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    3. Anonymous20/2/14 23:35

      I watched the game to. Now I have to be honest that I haven't seen Turpin referee before so I'm not an expert. Now I don't know if it was because Collina was in the Arena but it seemed like Turpin took his positioning to the 'extreme' and by that I mean that Turpin positioned himself at the sideline of the field. Now imo I like that because sometimes I do that myself in a game but thats just my opinion :).
      Furthermore the penalty decision was correct. Ajax defender floored Salzburg attacker with his challenge and therefore penalty in my book. Finally two things: 1. I thought it was very brave of Turpin to recall his decision for giving advantage and then converting it into a free kick because it wasn't really an 'advantage' situation imo. and 2. the accident with Ajax defender Blind and Salzburg player(forgot his name and minute sorry) during the second half COULD (and I say could) have been a red card for Blind imo for endangering the Salzburg players health (after seeing the replay) it was clear that Ajax defender was too late with his challenge and stepping on the Salzburg players ankle is very very dangerous but again that's just my opinion. I'd like to end with overall good game of Turpin

      /SA Dutch referee

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    4. I think team Turpin had a very good match until the 75th min. That situation later, first the other "highlights".

      Although it was maybe the least worst option the shirt of Turpin was on television almost equal to the shorts of Salzburg. The penalty kick was correctly awarded. The first yellow card was in my opinion not mandatory. He made very clear that it was over the line and the next one would be booked. And he did.

      The 0-2 was a good call and no offside.

      The situation which is most debatable is the situation with ajax #17 Blind. In my opinion a crucial mistake from Turpin. He gives a yellow card which should have been a straight red card for SFP. Blind was to late, and landed with his flat foot on the achilles of the Salzburg player. Health of the player was very much in danger so there was only one option imo. I couldn't find any video of this situation but maybe somebody else can.

      Furthermore he showd a good condition, but the style of following the play isn't really mine. Sometimes Turpin was on the sideline were I thought he was to close to the situation.

      What are your thoughts Niclas? Looking forward to your report.

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    5. My first impression is mixed but I will only watch the match today. Concerning Kulbakov, the decision was taken by AR2 as AAR2 had a positioning-blackout.

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  17. Terrible penalty call by Zwayer, never deliberate handball.

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  18. The one given by Mateu Lahoz:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zgI34N9X21c#t=59

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  19. Crazy match in Olimpico stadium.

    Another penalty given by Zwayer to Lazio (missed) and now a RC to #18 Ludogorets for SFP.

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    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBWs_J7872g

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    2. I think, it was a second yellow card for #18, straight red would have been too harsh.

      What do you think about the penalty? Looked like a dive, but there was a small contact. Zwayer did signal play on first, didn't he?

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    3. Yes, the defender stretches his leg, there is a small contact but later the attacker fells. Probably suggested by AR2.

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    4. Correction. The RC is 2xYC.

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  20. Gumienny gave a penalty to Rubin Kazan for a foul which occurred clearly outside the area. Similar to City - Barça scene, but here totally clear.

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  21. Another RC in Olimpico. This time straight RC for SFP and totally correct.

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  22. An expected level performance for Bebek in Swansea-Napoli, nothing extra ordinary happened. Mark can be safely 8.4

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  23. Anonymous20/2/14 23:15

    Guys, did anyone observe Sergey Karasev?

    Regards,
    Dmitry

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    1. Hi Dmitry, I have not watched the match but I can tell you that the crucial decision taken (penalty) was correct, according to Italian sites.
      Waiting for Nur report, of course, I don't want to say more.

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  24. Anonymous21/2/14 00:41

    Pickel with a crucial mistake to allow Benfica goal.

    Gumienny with correct second yellow card and a penalty for a foul that occured clearly outside the box. Big mistake...

    Zwayer's penalty for handball is... CORRECT according to current guidance! The only allowed hand position when blocking a centre or shot is not increasing a body surface by hands. One can disagree, but it's the current interpretation. Second penalty well detected by AAR2. Wrong decision with second YC for SFP, it should (really should) have been straight red card. Correct straight red for SFP.

    Varuzhan

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    1. No way Zwayer's penalty for handball is correct. The hand is stuck to the body so we are not talking about increasing the surface of the body.

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    2. Of course it was no penalty kick. I guess Zwayer had an error of perception and also relied on AR2 who was moving to the goalline indicating "penalty!".

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    3. Anonymous21/2/14 15:54

      It is correct... The ball centered into the box hit the hand which is not totally stuck to the body as you suggest. Penalty, no other way. The same thing with Eriksson missed penalty for handball in 27'. There is no move hand to the ball, but player standing on the line of centre/shot can't touch a ball with his hand (doesn't matter whether it's intentional or not). Those are current instructions, believe me. In this way, UEFA coped with too much room for interpretation referees had in the past. In a sum, Zwayer correctly whistled the pen and Eriksson made big mistake not awarding the pen for this handball.

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    4. Sorry I'm in trouble trying to accept that.
      According to these statements one could always whistle penalty for each handball, the players have no chances:
      1) they must cut the arms
      2) playing with the arms always tied behind the back.

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    5. No. Please don't confuse the readers here.
      The guidelines are very clear and both handballs, in Eriksson's and Zwayer's matches, were no deliberate handballs. In Zwayer's case, the arms and hands were in a natural position, did not move towards the ball, did not significantly enlarge the body surface. No criteria was fulfilled. This interpretation is also underlined by several videos in UEFA's referee assistance programme.

      And maybe you take this as an aid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBk_pMh6z5I&feature=player_detailpage#t=153
      Even though you probably don't understand German, you can read Fandel's body language.

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    6. Anonymous21/2/14 17:38

      Ehhh, Niclas.. every national federation use different criteria. Look on Lazio player's fist and unnaturaly straightened hand. It's deliberate block. In Eriksson's case the body enlargement is enough and the hand is not in natural position. Still, both are penalties. Ask UEFA observers to clarify that, pls. Regards.

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    7. Well with whom do you think we are in persistent contact?

      Your statement about different criteria is wrong. UEFA instructs the referee bosses of the national associations and targets at ensuring uniformity across Europe. It is a top-down-process. Herbert Fandel has also emphasized this in the video above.

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    8. Anonymous21/2/14 18:07

      Anonymous, you should accept the opinion of majority here. They are correct, we were shown these situations and it is no deliberate action.

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    9. Anonymous21/2/14 18:56

      I don;t know with whom you are in contact. I thought you are.

      And I tolerate the opinion of majority here, but will stay with my opinion :) My federation fully agree with me, so this process is not perfect then. Player didn't do anything to avoid a contact, distance is large, he had a clenched fist. It is deliberate play.

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    10. Of course you can stick to your opinion. I however find it worrying that UEFA's guidelines have not arrived in your federation, which is actually supposed to effectuate them as accurately as possible.

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    11. Anonymous21/2/14 19:57

      They arrived, don't worry...

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    12. I agree with Anonymous in that. Player has time to avoid contacte and take a look what happens with this hand. If it was natural position, hand would have recoiled. Clenched fist is another hint to Zwayer and his AAR that it was an intentional handball. Difficult, but penalty for me too!

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    13. I think we arrived at the end of this discussion. The blog and many of its readers have an opinion, which is not shared by one individual. That's fine by me. I personally think the handballs in Eriksson's and Zwayer's matches are never punishable handballs, due to no movement of the arm towards the ball and the arm being in a natural position. All I know of precedent and official instruction supports this opinion. So go along and make your own minds up.

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    14. two individuals* :P

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    15. To ensure that more people give their opinions:
      check minute 8' of the match:
      http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-europa-league/lazio-vs-ludogorets

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    16. Thomas, maybe it's because in my country nearly every handball is punished by penalty :D Of course, I don't say my thinking is 100% right! I said FOR ME. Btw, excellent reports, Thomas!

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    17. For clarity, I meant that the discussion from this particular anonymous seemed over to me. He has made his point repeatedly and I didn't see any new arguments. On the contrary Hubert, I welcome new opinions and new arguments :).
      Thank you Hubert, if you have any feedback I would be pleased to hear it.

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    18. So, maybe we should resume this discussion :)

      Pro-Penalty:
      - player doesn't move his hand to the ball what is not needed,
      - player doesn't enlarge his body volume in excessive way,
      - the centre is made with a big power.

      Anti-Penalty:
      - player clenches his fist what indicate that he deliberately takes this position of the hand,
      - the hand doesn't recoil what indicate the same what in first point,
      - player doesn't take action to avoid contact,
      - he has a time to do that.

      For my taste, that all indicates that the player knew what he was doing and hence the penalty kick is correct or - at least - acceptable decision. What do you think about such interpretation?

      By the way, really good situation to discuss!

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    19. Anonymous22/2/14 01:42

      OK, let me jump into this. When we are talking about a handball, we can not judge on just one criteria, because there is more than just natural position, or making himself bigger. The base rule on that Law is DELIBERATE handling. A player can have his hand in a natural position, without making himself bigger, but still make a deliberate handling to stop the ball, like in this situation. There is no significance at this point, whether the hand was in a natural position or not. If the player is tightening his fists, the hand was held rigidly, it means he was expecting that the ball hit him in the hand, so we are talking about intentional handling of the ball. Otherwise his hand would be blast away, after such a blast kick. Instead it stays rigidly

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    20. Anonymous22/2/14 09:33

      Players are not expected to hold their hands behind their body to avoid contact. The guidelines still aim at allowing players to have player-typical hand positions to hold their balance etc.

      Like Hubert said:
      - no significant increase of body hitting surface (here your mistake starts. players can never enlarge their body volume, the volume is always the same)
      - the hand does not move towards the ball, but in the last moment even moves away from it
      - the distance is small, maybe 4 metres, the ball comes quickly and goes towards the hand
      - the hand is not in an outstretched, unnatural and therefore in no careless position.

      Clearly, very clear no penalty kick. Zwayer must accept a 7.9 here although he made a very good game!!

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  25. Anonymous21/2/14 00:49

    And Siarhei Tsynkevich with very dubious call disallowing Trabzonspor's goal. The ball didn't fully cross the line imho.

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  26. Kulbakov was overall good at Juventus-Trabzonspor. Missed some fouls for Trabzonspor, at the same time also I think there is a missed yellow card to Bourceanu. Goal which is disallowed is not easy to detect for AR2 and AAR2. AR2 was not on the line, that can be his mistake. IMO the ball didn't cross the line fully. But not an easy call, therefore i don't believe UEFA will accept this as a mistake.

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  27. http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=963129459_2_122_598lo.jpg

    If you ask me, it is impossible to understand whether the ball was totally out or not. According to this pic. I think this can't be evaluated as crucial mistake, Kulbakov team was unlucky because Trabzonspor scored just in this situation.

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  28. Anonymous21/2/14 11:02

    Horrendous decision from Felix Zwayer on 8th minute. I like him very much as a referee but that decision was not correct, very bad. Good advantage prior to Ludogorets goal, 2nd YC should have been straight red for SFP. The second no doubt. Red card shown while defender still laying on the ground, didn't look good as well talking to Lazio player with his red card in his hands for 5-7 seconds.

    Not the best day for Felix but a good referee. Still learning.

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  29. Anonymous regarding it's a penalty. You are not correct. UEFA guidelines indicate it must be deliberate handball. He will have 7,4-7,9 for his performance, if Elleray think's SFP for the first red card for 2nd YC he will have 7,4. Never more than 7,9 because of the handball.

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    1. Anonymous21/2/14 16:21

      For me it's obvious 7.9 for the SFP and really don't know what to think about penalty. If mistake, it will be 7.4, I agree here.

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    2. Practically most of the observers back the referee when a player is sent off with a 2nd YC even though it could / should have been a RC (because the effect is the same in the match). I don't say that it should be like that of course.

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  30. Anonymous21/2/14 16:17

    Team Stark with mistakes also...
    Benfica's goal clear off-side...

    Not so good evening for german officials...

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  31. A remark about Lahoz, I think that he is a bit endangering the high reputation that UEFA had for him at the beginning of this season. Yesterday another crucial mistake after the ones made in Arsenal - Marseille.
    At any rate, for now there are not chances for a promotion, since Spain has already 3 Elite officials, but that is a pity for his future.

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    1. Hi chefren!
      Can you send me a link to watch that,because the one i tried did not work.
      thanks

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    2. Kika, you want Thursday's match?

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    3. HI Kika

      http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-europa-league/dnipro-dnipropetrovsk-vs-tottenham-hotspur
      Here you can watch online or download the match. The penalty for a foul outside the area happened at 80'.
      Furthermore, and here I would like to read also Edward opinion, the foul made at 35' seems punishable by a RC for DOGSO.
      Nevertheless, YC seems not a clear mistake.
      Do you agree?

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    4. Well there are arguments for RC but i can also understand the referee. If you watch the video again you will see that the GK is very close to the attacker. So i guess we can accept the decision.

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  32. I have just checked Alon Yefet's sending-off in Makhachkala. It was totally correct. A dangerous tackle with studs up, clearly serious foul play. Very good.

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