March 9, 2014

Champions League - Round of 16 - Referee Appointments (V)

UEFA Referee Committee's members responsible for referee appointments have assigned a Norwegian and an English officiating team to take charge of the first two return legs of Champions League's Round of 16: Svein Oddvar Moen will oversee the top clash between Bayern München and Arsenal FC at 2012 Champions League final's venue - for the Norwegian, it is the second time to handle this duel after last season's Round of 16 first leg in London -, whereas Mark Clattenburg will control the tense and important tie between Atlético Madrid and AC Milan.



11 March 2014, 20:45 CET
Allianz Arena, München, Germany
Bayern München - Arsenal FC [2:0]
Referee: Svein Oddvar Moen (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Kim Thomas Haglund (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Frank Andås (NOR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ken Henry Johnsen (NOR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Svein-Erik Edvartsen (NOR)
Fourth Official: Leif Erik Opland (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray (HUN)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)
 
11 March 2014, 20:45 CET
Estadio Vicente Calderón, Madrid, Spain
Atlético Madrid - AC Milan [1:0]
Referee: Mark Clattenburg (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Simon Beck (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Andre Marriner (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Lee Probert (ENG)
Fourth Official: Jake Collin (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sergey Zuev (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: Roland Tis (BEL)
Blog Referee Observer: Stjepan N. (CRO)

60 Comments:

  1. Very good appointment for Moen, even though more important considering that UEFA selected him for this second-leg, prior to know the first-leg score.
    He is in my opinion a candidate to handle a CL semifinal.
    In the other match, a nice assignment for Clattenburg. The match is not still totally decided in favor of the Spanish side.
    I must anyway admit that now I'm a bit in trouble trying to understand where to appoint the remaining names (Cakir, Mazic and Brych). It seems sure that UEFA has not taken into account at all the first legs, so we could have something like: PSG - Leverkusen for Mazic.
    Not really good but at the end one must make choices...

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  2. I would say:

    Barca-City/ Chelsea- Galata/ Man Utd- Oly for Brych/ Cakir/ Mazic

    Psg- Bayer/ Real- Schalke/ Dortmund- Zenit for Lannoy/ Skomina/ Undiano

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    1. I wouldn't select Lannoy for a PSG match, to be honest ;-).

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    2. It's not Lannoy for PSG.

      There are two groups of 3 referees (World Cup/ not World Cup). Those who go to Brazil will be designated to Barca/Man Utd/ Cheslea (where imo the qualification is still undecided). The other 3 will have the games where qualification is already decided.

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    3. It is a problem though in your first line: Barca-City/ Chelsea- Galata/ Man Utd- Oly for Brych/ Cakir/ Mazic

      Assumed that Brych and Cakir don't have ManU there is only Mazic left. But the Serbian had ManU on MD6.

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    4. Barca - City Cakir
      Chelsea - Galatasaray Brych
      United - Olympiacos Mazic

      PSG - Bayer Skomina
      Borussia - Zenit Undiano
      Real - Schalke Lannoy

      this would be the most logical choice, if you ask me, considering that Cakir is forced to get Barça because he can't officiate Manchester United and Galatasaray.

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  3. Great appointment for Svein Moen... EL final a possibility for him IMO. Clatts also has a very good game with that particular tie being finely poised. Interesting that he is with Stuart Burt and not Steve Child. I'm not too sure but I think Burt was paired with Clatts last year as well, Malaga - Porto if I recall correctly.

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  4. Good appointments once again, especially for Moen. Second leg of such a top clash, Uilenberg in the stands. I agree with Chefren, in fact I think Moen could even be a candidate for a European final.
    Clattenburg has a tense match with could become very challenging. I am looking forward to their performances.
    BTW: Child leaves Team Clattenburg?

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    1. Anonymous9/3/14 18:02

      Once the selection for WC 2014 was done, refs not selected do not have to always be withe same ARs. Those trios were established specifically for WC selection.

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  5. Concerning Child, I think it could be that Kirkup is injured (he was replaced by Chambers in the friendly GER-CHI), so that Atkinson will be assisted by Long and Child in UEL.

    I actually see no real room for Skomina anymore in the R16. Cakir to Barca, Brych to Chelsea, Lannoy to ManU, Kralovec to Paris, Mazic to Madrid and Undiano to Dortmund would be a possibility.

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    1. Anonymous9/3/14 17:43

      Remember that Skomina will officiate with an Italian assistant referee. There is surely room for him, otherwise, he was going to be appointed in EL with two Slovenian ARs.

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    2. I mean, he could maybe stay without a R16 match but a QF instead of it (?). Of course you are right.

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    3. Anonymous9/3/14 17:57

      Thst Italian AR seems to be so misterious:)

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    4. Anonymous9/3/14 18:08

      Solve the mistery! :)

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    5. Anonymous12/3/14 06:19

      I hope not De Liberatore after what he did in Napoli - Roma!

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  6. One anonymous said that Clattenburg goes to EL.
    One ignorant anonymous.........

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    1. Anonymous9/3/14 12:13

      One anonymous of ignorance.

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    2. Anonymous9/3/14 17:14

      Clattenburg can be demoted if bad at Spain.

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    3. Anonymous9/3/14 17:38

      Don't exaggerate please.

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  7. Anonymous9/3/14 16:37

    Sunderland is out of the FA cup. In reality I think this means that Mark Clattenburg will referee this season's FA Cup final (unless, of course, he picks up an injury).

    /Swedish observer

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    1. I agree - Clattenburg should get the appointment now that Sunderland have been eliminated...

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  8. Off-topic. I have 2 clips from Bundesliga which are quite similar in nature. What do you think: should referees do that kind of things? Does it give them too much unwanted attention or is it OK?

    Thiago & the linesman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTpe_0R9MSE

    2 YC's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYfLSZPVBeY

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    1. Unfortunately the first video is not visible in my country.
      Oh yes...Thomas Metzen..this action caused many polemics after the match, he himself recognized that this was a stupid idea. So of course you should NOT do it.

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    2. Yes, low profile is preferable. The 1st one was this recent "incident" when the linesman was showing off (I think that's fair to say).

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xNEvtNQpVE

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  9. Anonymous9/3/14 20:18

    Another interesting situation from Bundesliga

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXh-KFTVkKI

    i need your opinion, yellow card for simulation or just a drop ball?

    thank you

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    1. If the player did not intend to deceive the referee (which is obvious, as he himself corrects the ref), you cannot give him a yellow for unsporting behaviour. So drop ball.

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  10. Interesting case from the MLS replacement referees. Of course, there is no replay, so it is hard to judge. Nevertheless, from the movement of the elbow, this seems like a red to me. Thoughts?

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/video/2014/03/08/yellow-hernadez-gets-caught-using-high-elbow#ooid=kwajEzbDrjkk3V85miyk2uKvVgwIV3oz

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  11. Anonymous10/3/14 10:49

    Another time De Michelis!!!!!!!!!!

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  12. Mark Clattenburg has also been appointed to Manchester United - Liverpool next weekend. He will be assisted by Beck and Beswick (once again no Child). 4th official will be Lee Probert.

    Atkinson has Swansea - WBA on Saturday, which makes an EL match on Thursday unlikely.

    Further EPL appointments: http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/referees/appointments/

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    1. Good appointment for Clatts, but also for Mike Dean who will handle the North London derby later the same day. Clattenburg, Beck and Child are not regularly appointed together in the Premier League, so this does not come as a surprise. Beswick has accompanied Clatts on numerous occasions this season, probably even more than Child has. A very competent linesman indeed, and thoroughly deserves his appointment.

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  13. Anonymous11/3/14 01:06

    What happened in Napolu - Roma in min 27?

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    1. Anonymous11/3/14 22:29

      It seems that Rocchi stopped play for an offside at a... throw-in and then changed his decision to a dropped ball!!! Elite level?

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    2. Elenito Di Liberatore wrongly flagged offside directly on a throw-in and Rocchi missed in alertness, not overruling him.
      It can happen, sometimes...

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    3. Anonymous12/3/14 01:08

      Oh, that was Di Liberatore, a World Cup candidate??? It can happen, but certainly not at that level! I have never seen such a mistake by an Elite AR and an Elite referee!

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  14. Anonymous11/3/14 20:45

    Incredible scene at the coin toss with Moen, trying to convince a kid to throw the coin. One referee of greatness.

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  15. Anonymous11/3/14 21:13

    Good offside decision from Andås ruling out a Bayern goal correctly.

    /Swedish observer

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  16. What's your thoughts on Moen's decision to allow play to continue (from which Arsenal scored). Watching it live, I thought it was a certain foul. It felt as though all the players were expecting a whistle, even Podolski was surprised Moen allowed play to continue.

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    1. Dito. After that moment, Moen is not consequent. He assesses duels quite differently...

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    2. Anonymous11/3/14 22:51

      I could accept this decision if it would fit to his line... But the whole game he was a bit "pedantic" in his decision and taking t
      his line into account i would call it a mistake...

      Best regards
      Phil

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  17. Theatrical way to point the spot by Moen in the last minutes... :)
    very good alertness by AAR1, no goal, the goal didn't cross the line

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  18. Anonymous11/3/14 22:49

    That was really one of the poorest referee performances in CL in the last years....a really horror performance by Svein Oddvar Moen in an easy game...unbelievable mistakes in foul detection and no personality...players didn`t accept him during 94 minutes

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    1. Anonymous11/3/14 22:51

      are you sirious?

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    2. That's way too hard. There were more poor performances, for example Clattenburg last season in Munich...

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  19. Anonymous11/3/14 22:54

    Please watch the hole game...the foul detection was a disaster...unbelievable low rate of correct decisions

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  20. Well. I would not exaggerate it. For sure it was far away from expected level in terms of line in foul detection and personality in second half. But superlatives don't help us.

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  21. Of course I disagree with such terms as "horror performance". Moen had probably not his best evening. I think that he still needs something, and looking at his age, UEFA can surely wait.
    The WC call as fourth official is acceptable, he will make a great experience there, but as for now, he is not still a referee for a final or a very challenging match.
    Apart from the foul detection and the potentially crucial mistake prior to Arsenal goal, we must also report two correct crucial calls: penalty given and disallowed goal for offside. Therefore, UEFA could be quite satisfied at the end. Absolutely no reasons to make complaints by the team who has been eliminated and this is the first important thing at this level.
    For the future, we can hope a further development for Moen.

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    1. Anonymous12/3/14 07:39

      Isn't it time to stop repeating that Moen is so young all the time? He is in fact 35 this year, ie born in 1979. At that age you are more in the refereeing middle age (if I may use that term!) nowadays, when younger referees are pushed through the system quicker than before. Yes, I know that Moen would be seen as a schoolboy in the Premier league, where the referee system does not seem to work properly, but from my perspective I don' think of him as young. I remember Anders Frisk refereeing his first EURO at the age of 33, which was very young at the time (1996). Please also remember Cakir and Skomina, who rarely are referred to as "youngsters". They are born in 1976, and are only three years older than Moen. And someone like Michael Oliver is born in 1985.

      So from now on, I think we should refrain from calling Moen so young. He is in fact a man in the ripe of his career. Just like the rest (almost) of the Elite referees.

      /Swedish observer

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    2. Anonymous12/3/14 17:10

      Agree with Swedish obserrver

      /Ref

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    3. Anonymous12/3/14 18:37

      NiIclas and others blog observers
      If it is a penalty which is Moen whistled in 91 min. then in football there are no more seriousness... You can not say that it is a penalty. The real players are tougher than Robben. This is still football not basketball.
      As player and referee it is not penalty.

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    4. I propose that you re-watch the replays. The contact is clear, it is a clear punishable foul at the feet. Koscielny was way too clumsy. Don't tell me Robben searched it please. I am experiencing this guy every weekend in Bundesliga. But it does not change anything on the technical side.

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    5. Anonymous12/3/14 19:58

      The penalty is correct. At least that.

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    6. Anonymous12/3/14 20:28

      As Arsenal supporter I must and did accept the penalty. Accept is a weak word for it, I mean, I would have whistled for penalty form Moen's position.
      I'd like to remind you that there is one field of play, not two - in and outside the area. You always expect foul from such contact in midfield, why is the penalty area diferent?
      It was unfair contact from ARS #6.

      Question from me. At last minute, Moen gave advantage for Arsenal and from the live, I thought that it was reckless challenge and YC from Bayern player. The ball was in play until the end of the match. Should have Moen cautioned the player after the final whistle?

      / BC

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    7. I had the same feeling, the problem is that there was not any replay on the basis of which one could clear whether it was a YC at all (even though it looked like one from the live position). Common sense tells us it was ok not to caution the player after final whistle, but....surely actually that is no good argumentation.

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  22. Anonymous12/3/14 06:13

    Graham Poll's opinion: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2578796/Arsene-Wengers-fears-not-realised-Moen-fantastic-Germany-GRAHAM-POLL.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

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    1. Please please don't post links to Graham Poll's column here anymore. Only serious content should be linked here.

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    2. Anonymous12/3/14 10:39

      If the page had ''like'' button, Niclas would get one from me!

      One question. When did UEFA RAP 2013:1 came public? So when should we expect 2014:1?

      / BC

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    3. Anonymous12/3/14 10:44

      Expect it around April/May 2014..

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    4. Anonymous12/3/14 11:53

      Are you Pierluigi Collina?

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    5. Anonymous12/3/14 12:51

      More like Bierluigi Collina? (he-he) If you did ask me, I'm not sure.

      Ofcourse, no. I wanted to have an interesting name, as Swedish observer has and I thought of ''bottle carrier'', what I thought to be somewhat funny, but didn't like it so much after some time, so I made it shorter to BC.

      Sincerely Yours
      BC

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