March 18, 2014

Europa League - Round of 16 - Referee Appointments (II)

UEFA has appointed the following referee teams to take charge of Thursday's return legs of Europa League Round of 16. Greek Tasos Sidiropoulos will control Valencia CF - Ludogorets observed by UEFA Referee Committee member Vlado Šajn - no surprise given the circumstance that he caught our and probably also UEFA's attention by a very good development in his past matches. Same counts for Polish Szymon Marciniak. The Sevilla derby will be handled by Portuguese Pedro Proença, the Italian duel by Howard Webb. And, last but not least, the next mixed team has unfolded: Damir Skomina will be assisted by Italian Gianluca Cariolato.


20 March 2014, 18:00 CET
Saturn, Ramenskoye, Russia
Anji - AZ Alkmaar
Referee: Craig Thomson (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Alan Mulvanny (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Damien Macgraith (IRL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Steven McLean (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Fourth Official: David McGeachie (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Siegfried Kirschen (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Andreas Akkelides (CYP)
Blog Referee Observer: Stjepan Novosel (CRO)

20 March 2014, 19:00 CET
Estadi de Mestalla, Valencia, Spain
Valencia CF - Ludogorets
Referee: Tasos Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Christos Akrivos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Damianos Efthimiadis (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Ilias Spathas (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Stavros Tritsonis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Dimitrios Gagas (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Jevgenijs Milevskis (LVA)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

20 March 2014, 19:00 CET
Štruncovy Sady Stadión, Plzen, Czech Rep.
Viktoria Plzen - Olympique Lyon
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Pawel Raczkowski (POL)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Fourth Official: Radosław Siejka (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jozef Marko (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Oleg Harlamov (EST)
Blog Referee Observer: Edward (GRE)

20 March 2014, 19:00 CET
Estádio da Luz, Lisbon, Portugal
SL Benfica - Tottenham
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Bojan Ul (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Gianluca Cariolato (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Ponis (SVN)
Fourth Official: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Dumitru Mihalache (ROU)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

20 March 2014, 19:00 CET
Stadio Artemio Franchi, Florence, Italy
ACF Fiorentina - Juventus Turin
Referee: Howard Webb (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Michael Mullarkey (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Darren Cann (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Andre Marriner (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Lee Mason (ENG)
Fourth Official: Jake Collin (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Oguz Sarvan (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Steen Dahrup (DEN)
Blog Referee Observer: Glitzo (AUT)

20 March 2014, 21:05 CET
Benito Villamarín, Sevilla, Spain
Real Betis - Sevilla CF
Referee: Pedro Proença (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bertino Miranda (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tiago Trigo (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Duarte Gomes (POR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: João Capela (POR)
Fourth Official: Paulo Alexandre Santos (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nikolay Levnikov (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: Zoran Cvrk (CRO)
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

20 March 2014, 21:05 CET
Stadion Salzburg, Salzburg, Austria
RB Salzburg - FC Basel
Referee: Manuel Gräfe (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Pickel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Guido Kleve (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Marco Fritz (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Robert Hartmann (GER)
Fourth Official: Marco Achmüller (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alfredo Trentalange (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: David Roger Griffiths (WAL)
Blog Referee Observer: Marcel (NED)

20 March 2014, 21:05 CET
Stadio San Paolo, Napoli, Italy
SSC Napoli - FC Porto
Referee: Martin Atkinson (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stephen Child (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Darren England (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Craig Pawson (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stuart Burt (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jean Lemmer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Markus Stenger (GER)
Blog Referee Observer: Emil Archambault (CAN)

159 Comments:

  1. Anonymous18/3/14 10:48

    Next year we will see Sidiropoulos in UCL Group stage...:)

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  2. Anonymous18/3/14 11:30

    Where are the appointments?

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    1. .......apparently not published by UEFA..
      Now they are.
      I cannot understand Gräfe's appointment. He issued a wrong red card in Genk-Anji and UEFA is not using the chance to test Aytekin or even Zwayer in this match.

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    2. Anonymous18/3/14 11:44

      no Skomina,no Mazic-what does it mean?strange appointmets by UEFA.
      no appointment for these referees during 64 matches to be held....16 UCl,48 UEl!

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    3. Anonymous18/3/14 11:45

      sorry abot Skomina,did not notice....but why onlu 1 match.Mazic-nothing

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    4. If you give the time to post them,...

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  3. Now it seems clear that Mazic is out for some reasons.
    I would like to have info from Serbia, if possible. It seems that now all the Serbian users are disappeared.
    It is not logical that he is the only Elite official without a match.
    At least, they had to appoint him once.
    Very likely, he was the name replaced by Ivan Bebek.
    Apart from that, I would like to understand something about Graefe and the Germain situation, especially after Stark retirement in a few months.
    The meaning of Trentalange? Another chance for Graefe?
    I think that it would be more logical to follow and work on Aytekin.
    Cariolato replacing Zunic...one can clearly guess that at moment Skomina can't be really taken into account for any final. Waiting for the next year and (perhaps) a new Slovenian assistant referee at his side.

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    1. Anonymous18/3/14 12:17

      I can confirm you that Mazic isn't injured for sure.
      You said 'Very likely he was the name replaced by Ivan Bebek' - I hope you think about replacement in some match, not in elite group. :)
      I would try to find out the possible reason for his absence.

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    2. Thanks for the info. That's very good.
      Yes I meant replaced in the match, of course, not in the Elite Category.
      Regards

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    3. Anonymous18/3/14 15:48

      Maybe saved for later stages of UCL?

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    4. Anonymous18/3/14 15:55

      I don't know,maybe..
      Last time he was appointed on March 1st (Serbian Super League).

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    5. Anonymous18/3/14 23:08

      Last time he was appointed on 05/03/2014, when he was in charge of the friendly match Turkey - Sweden.

      Peter/Vienna

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    6. Anonymous19/3/14 12:22

      Yes Peter,my bad.
      Thank you for correction. :)

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  4. Anonymous18/3/14 12:25

    I'm not sure if Fiorentina play their matches at the Štruncovy Sady Stadión... Little typo?

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  5. Friedrich18/3/14 12:45

    Manuel Gräfe will have one good opportunity with Trentalange
    for show your quality, after the unfortunate Real-Juventus.

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  6. Anonymous18/3/14 16:10

    Dear friends!
    I like european football refereeing very much!(have been reading your site for 2 years!)
    so i want to ask you few questions about the role of referee at UEFA competions:
    1)when the referee REALLY get an appointment(we get it 2 days before match)
    2)when referee team come to the host city?
    3)how referees spend their time before the match?
    4)when they should come to the stadium before the match?
    5)UEFA referee observer meets referee team before the match?
    Thanks for your answers,it will help to understand referee work more!

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    1. 1) 7-10 days before the match. Mostly only the main referee knows the destination.
      2) Mostly one day before the match. So if you have a match in CL on Tuesday you usually take a flight on Monday.
      3) I am sure everybody has his own individual habit, but mostly they visit the town and interesting locations at the venue with the liaison officer, discuss the match, prepare themselves etc.
      4) Normally 2 hours before kick-off. I can only say that because I watched them arriving in some matches at Schalke Arena around 18:30 (when kick-off was 20:45).
      5) Yes he does. Mostly he even accompanies them to the pre-match session, to locations etc.

      Maybe one or the other UEFA referee can share his own experiences...
      Regards.

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    2. Anonymous18/3/14 18:25

      Thanks a lot,Niclas!!!!It is really great info for me! I hope,you will answer such questions in future if somebody ask simillar ones!
      Thanks!

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    3. Anonymous18/3/14 22:41

      1. 7-14 days, before match told they have a match, destination unknown.. Flight details 4-6 days before match.
      2. Normally day before match. Uefa prefer them to be there minimum 24hours before kick off. Depending on destination sometimes 2 days before.
      3. Personal. Some sleep/relax, Some go walking. I used to enjoy time in swimming pool ;-)
      4. Light training session at stadium evening before match. Early rounds all 4 officials go to a security meeting morning of match. Group stage onwards only AAR1 attends meeting. Arrive at ground 1 1/2 to 2 hours before kick off.
      5. Observer will meet at airport or hotel on arrival. Very little contact with match delegate.

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    4. Thanks ;)
      One question on point 4: if there are no AARs, the 4th official takes this role right?

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    5. http://referee.scottishfa.co.uk/2011/09/30/mission-to-moscow/
      http://referee.scottishfa.co.uk/2011/10/17/get-an-eiffel-at-this-blossoming-bromance/
      http://referee.scottishfa.co.uk/2011/12/06/from-medda-to-donetsk-to-airdrie/
      and further entries in this blog give a good insight into the happenings around UEFA matches

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    6. Anonymous19/3/14 12:00

      Hi Niclas, regarding point 4, In early round of uefa competitions (before group stages) all 4 officials goto the security meeting, with observer. This also happens at World cup and Euro Qualifiers. In Champions/Europa league group games only AAR1 and the observer go. I am an ex fifa referee, so luckily been involved!

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  7. Anonymous18/3/14 18:10

    Niclas, I completely agree with you. You're right for everything. I'd add only one thing in 4) 90 min before the kick-off officials have to arrive to the stadium... But in practice it's 2 hours before...
    Regards

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    1. Thanks.
      And as soon as they are at the stadium, they usually visit their dressign rooms, leave their baggage there and 60-90 minutes before the match the whole crew (referees, delegate, observer) examine the field of play, the officials test their micros by moving to their "in-game-position"... the most interesting part is IMO the warm-up 20-45 minutes before the match. Every referee team has his own standard. For example Proenca usually positions some cones on the field and they make special warm-up sprints. His ARs are sprinting on their respective sideline, simulating in-game-sprints, simulating flagging fouls or offsides. Some other officials like Karasev and his teammates conduct everything together in the warm-up area at the back straight on the midfield line. And the Italians usually start together and then the referee makes sprints on his own, both ARs (Stefani and Faverani) move to one corner flag and make special warm-up practices together and the AARs make a light warm-up. So what I want to say, everybody has his style here.

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    2. Anonymous18/3/14 19:54

      As a reader of your blog, I want to thank you for this work. I really believe that UEFA or somebody else should pay you for that. A
      landmark for referees and refereeing's lovers all over the world. We can learn every day something. I wish you can keep this work forever.

      Sincerely.

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  8. Great decision from Lupp, Eto'o was onside before putting the ball in the back of the net.

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    1. You should post that in the pertinent discussion :)

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    2. My apologies, didn't know this was the EL thread ;)

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  9. OUT of topic
    To test matches in Montevideo previous to the WC

    Uruguay vs North Ireland: Paulo de Oliveira (Brasil)
    Uruguay vs Slovenia: Patricio Loustau (Argentina)

    Regards

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  10. Very good information of Niklas.
    But I like know if the observer writes the
    information before or after that he seems the
    match by tv.

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    1. Usually observers check some situations on DVD (but really only a few ones). The official reports even have a box "Review of DVD required?" that the observer has to fill in or not.
      So mostly crucial assessments are made after watching replays but general things are observed right on the seats during the match and written down. The report has to be sent 48h after the match then as far as I know.
      Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there are also internally appointed TV observers in some matches. So this means there is someone (a committee member for example) watching the match on TV or via stream and checks the performance on this way. And...of course it would be stupid to believe Collina and co. would never switch on their TV to watch CL..

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    2. Anonymous19/3/14 19:03

      Niclas I think current procedure/instruction is that observers are given a dvd directly after the match and write the report after watching the dvd. Regards RC.

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  11. I reallty interesting to know the logistic of an internation trip for refereeing; just one question (since I have to tavel a lot for my job) especially for the former FIFA referee who detailed the point: any possibility to choose the travel options, the flights, the aircroft company, the time table, the connections or everything is decided by Uefa and the referee must follow the scheduling ?
    How this scheduling (7 dasy before the booking, 5 days before the plan) match with family or job (many refrees ar not professionals) constrains ?
    In addition I think that referee evaluation should be done only by the member in the stadium, in from of the TV or in a DVD the evaluation doesn't match with the reality, A referee must decide in 1 sec only on what he (or his team) saw and with (maybe) 80000 people who are pressing him.

    Regards

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    1. I only partly agree on your last point Mario. You are right when saying referees should not be blamed for mistakes given the pressure that lies on them. It is however a fact that teams have to expect the best referees possible. And you only find out whether a referee has quality in his decisions (not necessarily in his outward impression and personality) if you check some situations on TV. Don't forget there are millions of people watching the matches in front of their flatscreens. If they see a referee got half of his decisions wrong, it would not be honest, realistic and even authentic if the observer was satisfied with everything. Football has changed and so have referee recruitment and observation.

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  12. ex fifa ref20/3/14 20:47

    In answer to a couple of the points. The debrief after the match is done either in a seperate room in the restaurant before a meal or in the hotel after eating. A dvd is viewed on specific points that the observer wants clarification on. He will then compile his report in the next 24/36 hours.
    Uefa have"spotters" watching the matches on tv. These are uefa observers which watch for good and bad points which are then used on the uefa training dvd's. These have no direct influence on the mark awarded by the match observer.
    For matches with only a few days notice the referees have very little control on which flights they can take. For early stage matches referees can ask for alternative flights, normally if they know specific airports have a history of not getting luggage to destination on short transfer times!

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  13. Anonymous20/3/14 20:54

    Watched bits of Skomina tonight. Thought he did quite well to me. Late Spurs penalty appeal could go either way so not a clear mistake for me. Benfica penalty blatant. Spurs 2nd goal looked tight on first viewing for offside but not seen a replay yet. Hopefully for Skomina and team it was ok.

    Ian

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    1. Anonymous20/3/14 21:17

      Spurs 2nd goal was clearly offside.

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    2. Nope. Perfectly onside / level.

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  14. Anonymous20/3/14 21:09

    Webb with full control over the match and players. As always excellent in this point. Correct second yellow card for tactical foul prior to the only goal by Pirlo. I think Cuardado (FIO) could've gone with second yellow for rather reckless tackle from 83'. Ambrosini could be happy not being cautioned even once for his reckless challenges (74', 88'). The biggest talking point is Tevez' yellow card for what could've been a violent conduct (kick the GK's head, 90+4').

    Overall, I think it was a very good performance with many 50/50 situations and Webb chose to be rather lenient than strict. As always, he was in full control and had great rapport with players.

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    1. Anonymous20/3/14 22:31

      Sorry, remark! Just checked some situations. Tevez' foul is 100% violent conduct and 100% red card. Huge mistake from Marriner and Webb, both had perfect view, both will receive a 7.9 (maybe Mullarkey too). Ambrosini should've received two yellow cards as I mentioned above, but I can also see a straight red for the challenge from 88'. So, apart from perfect management, also poor disciplinary control...

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  15. Correct red card by Gräfe for SFP after only 9 minutes.

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    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8TeXvskbo&list=UUPiu33zdty3VvXUaD7-FnZA

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    2. Anonymous20/3/14 22:31

      Clear RC missed for Ajeti.

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    3. I have to agree..

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    4. Anonymous20/3/14 23:08

      Ajeti was directly involved in the second goal, so it may be a mistake that influenced the outcome of this clash because of Second away Goal

      Best regards
      Phil

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  16. Atkinson missed red on Queresma 19'. But he really needed Child to assist, as he was focused on original Napoli midfielder challenge, which was also straight leg and potential caution - one of those challenges that we hate at referees.

    Shame because all three of the team (5) had been excellent until then, particularly Child, who has just been superb again on his passive judgement, allowing Pandev opening goal.

    Skomina great control in his game - correct to wave away pen claim for Spurs - nothing in it at all. Correct YC early on for Luisao. Italian replacement did ok, but looked nervous, and potential missed offside for Spurs 2nd.

    Webb great I agree anonymous.

    Re Kuipers if I may, I thought his performance was rather bity for the world's 'form referee'. Needless YC's early on meant it was difficult to maintain a consistent line thereafter. His communication with assistants was the poorest I have seen at this level - granted van Rokel was out ….

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    1. Of course you may :)
      What I would contradict is your sentence "needless YC's". It suggests more than one yellow card was needless. And that is wrong. Both starting YCs were mandatory (5' and 9'). We can debate on Carrick's but Kuipers had good arguments to regard it as reckless. If he had cautioned Valencia we would have had 2-2 yellows after 13 minutes (quite a lot, but following a clear line).

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  17. I see that it was already written, but believe me one big red card missed by Atkinson

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    1. Do you think his view was good? Right behind Napoli challenge, with stamp just inside of the leg - I would expect Child to take the blame here ...

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  18. I can't see that 5' was mandatory at all, sorry. Carrick's was slightly late and in the attacking third, with only slight follow through. Again nothing. And as you say, if these two challenges are cautions, then Valencia's is of course yellow - but alas it didn't come. For me, it wasn't the approach to discipline which was the issue here (issue, relative to elite level of course); it was a highly unusual approach to foul detection from as early as the first minute, from Europe's form referee -> Not one person in the ground could tell whether he was about to signal for a foul or not - very early in the game, both AR's decided to assist as little as possible in this regard with Kuipers whistling for fouls from over 25m at times. Players on both sides were left frustrated, and aside from the penalty, there was very little in the game ….

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    1. Anonymous20/3/14 22:02

      If I see it right minute 5' was a holding on Wellbeck. Askito you can't doubt this yellow card. It was a tactical foul. You can have discussed about dogso when there would not have been another defender in the middle.

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    2. If you don't issue a YC in such challenges and in such a match, when are you going to do it?

      For me Kuipers made the right choice. If he had overlooked those 3 YC then he would probably have lost control. Let alone the fact that it could result in a RC.

      Always consider the difficulty of the match before the start of it. Kuipers had a clear strategy imo.

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    3. With all due respect, Askito, if this...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APdNDFfQDkw&feature=player_detailpage#t=519
      ...is no YC for you, I cannot help you.

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  19. Despite your needless sarcasm, I can apologise, as I did not mean that one.
    Another way to describe my dissonance with Kuipers' display: there were not 7 YC's in this game - this includes a poorly managed injury which resulted in Marcano/Rio YC's. Carrick and one other, which I obviously forgot the minute of, were not YC's for me. Sometimes the blog operates with crowd bias I am afraid. I am a massive Kuipers fan, but sadly, this was not a game to write home about.

    Night
    (M United fan)

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    1. So in your opinion, who should have got this match?

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    2. Well if you talk negatively about a referee performance, call starting cautions as "needless", you should at least know what you are talking about. Otherwise a discussion makes little sense. Be sure your fear is baseless. You are not the only one on this site who is able to have a clear and unobtrusive opinion.

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  20. The fourth official in Betis-Sevilla is running around the sideline, way out from the technical area, unusual

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    1. It's usual for Proenca's team. Pedro demands this from his fourth officials. That is visible in every match he handles, even at Confed Cup's opening match Brych had to move at the technical area.

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    2. Pedro Proença want to continue to be considered one of the best referees in the world until the end of his career in 2016 .

      He is one of seven International Referees who agreed to integrate the pilot project professionalization of portuguese arbitration. Pedro Proença quit her job to embrace this project so thoroughly defended .

      Pedro Proença is very competent , professional, demanding and engaged , so that when it is named for the games is at their full physical and psychological faculties . And he demands the same of his refereeing team .

      An example :

      His previous assistant referee , Ricardo Santos , made ​​about 2 or 3 years ago a serious error by not invalidated the goal of Maicon of FC Porto in the match against SL Benfica . This goal ultimately decided the championship .

      The following season Pedro Proenca informed the Board of Arbitration of the FPF who wanted to make a change in your team ... Ricardo Santos exchanged by Tiago Trigo . This change led to the end of the friendship Pedro Proenca with Ricardo Santos .

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  21. Not a good game by Gräfe. Correct RC, but he missed a violent conduct later on despite being only two metres away. Also his card selection had no clear line in the second half. The SYC was correct, but the first not.

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    1. I´m not OK with Howard Maxi. I give 8/10, to Manuel Gräfe.

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  22. Anonymous20/3/14 23:39

    http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-europa-league/fiorentina-vs-juventus-2

    Tevez' violent conduct missed by Marriner, Webb, Mullarkey (by level of responsibility). Second video, 47:30 and replay 49:10. Minutes of video, not match. Shocking attack, should be a four match-ban at least if not this yellow card... By the way, outstanding control visible in this situation.

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  23. Anonymous21/3/14 09:27

    The 4th official in Manchester United - Olympiacos, was Charl Schaap and not Hessel Steegstra!

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    1. Of course. Thanks.

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    2. Anonymous21/3/14 12:21

      Niclas. Very balanced and good report on MANU vs OLYM. RC

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    3. I agree! (is this crowd bias?) ;-)

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    4. Anonymous21/3/14 15:22

      No... I think just 2 experts supporting Niclas.... ;-)

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    5. Anonymous21/3/14 15:35

      Sorry forgot to sign.... RC

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  24. Anonymous21/3/14 09:47

    Normal game for greek Sidiropoulos in Valencia. First half was a little challenging with 5 correct yellow cards, all neceserry. Second half was easy for the greek team. All in all good management, consistent in free kicks and yellow cards and also good running.

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    1. What is your opinion on the YC for deliberate handball in 40' and the penalty appeal by Ludogorets in 43'?

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    2. Anonymous21/3/14 13:47

      In my opinion the yellow card is not for the handball but for stopping the promising attack because there was a pass to a teamate in the penalty area.

      About the situation for Ludo.. i believe it could be a yellow for simulation but also i agree with the lenient approach of the referee because the player don't ask for something and allready the referee at that moment had 5 yellow cards for more seriues offemces.

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  25. OT predictions for CL draw

    My predictions

    Atletico Madrid - Barcelona
    Chelsea - Manchester United
    Real Madrid - Borussia Dortmund
    Bayern - PSG

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  26. Quater Final draw:

    FC Barcelona - Atlético Madrid
    Real Madrid - Borussia Dortmund
    Paris Saint-Germain - Chelsea
    Manchester United - Bayern München

    Some cracking games ;)

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    1. Early predictions:
      FC Barcelona - Atlético Madrid: Brych and Webb
      Real Madrid - Borussia Dortmund: Clattenburg and Mazic
      Paris Saint-Germain - Chelsea: Kuipers and Eriksson
      Manchester United - Bayern München: Proenca and Cakir

      Semifinals: Rizzoli, Kuipers, Kassai, Mazic
      Final: Eriksson

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    2. Nothing logic the predictions for all.
      For quarts:
      Barcelona-Atlético, Rizzoli
      Real-Borussia, Kassai
      PSG-Chelsea, Mazic
      M.United-Bayern, Proença

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    3. First Leg predictions:

      FC Barcelona - Atlético Madrid: Cüneyt Çakır
      Real Madrid - Borussia Dortmund: Damir Skomina
      Paris Saint-Germain - Chelsea: Pedro Proença
      Manchester United - Bayern München: Carlos Velasco Carballo

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    4. FC Barcelona - Atlético Madrid: Çakır
      Real Madrid - Borussia Dortmund: Clattenburg
      Paris Saint-Germain - Chelsea: Skomina
      Manchester United - Bayern München: Kassai

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  27. Another predictions:
    AZ-Benfica, Moen
    O.Lyon-Juventus, Velasco
    Basel-Valencia, Eriksson
    Oporto-Sevilla, Stark

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    1. Mine are:
      AZ-Benfica: Rocchi and Undiano
      O.Lyon-Juventus: Atkinson and Benquerenca
      Basel-Valencia: Kralovec and Collum
      Porto-Sevilla: Thomson and Rizzoli

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  28. Well about CL I think that UEFA will be forced to appoint Brych in a quarterfinal. And there is only one suitable match: Atletico Madrid - Barça. Indeed, Brych can't officiate again Chelsea, and of course he is out from matches with German teams.
    UEFA can't wait for semifinals because it will be possible to have Bayern in a match and perhaps Borussia in the other one.
    So the choice for Brych seems forced.
    Almost the same speech can be done regarding Velasco. Indeed he is in the same condition of Brych: having already officiated Chelsea and our from matches with Spanish teams, his only hope is Manchester United - Bayern Munchen.
    English officials (Webb and Clattenburg) are possible only in the Spanish derby and Real Madrid - Dortmund.
    I wouldn't appoint Cakir for Manchester United.


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    1. Anonymous21/3/14 15:11

      I wouldn´t be that sure concerning Brych; remember 2012 he handled Chelsea in 1/8 against Naples and in semi Chelsea-Barca... of course it doesn´t seem very possible that Brych will meet Chelsea in quarter but I wouldn´t exclude it per 100%.

      best regards
      phil

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    2. I don't see why Brych is forced to be appointed for a quarterfinal. BVB will be very likely out so that he can surely handle a semifinal.

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  29. Very early Predictions:
    Barca - Atl. Madrid: Brych/Webb
    Real - BVB: Mazic/Rizzoli
    PSG - Chelsea: Kralovec/Cakir
    ManU - Bayern: Kassai/Proenca

    Semis: Kuipers/Clattenburg, others impossible for me to predict
    Final: Eriksson

    AZ - Benfica: Bebek/Fernandez Borbalan
    Lyon - Juventus: Aytekin/Velasco Carballo
    Basel - Valencia: Orsato/Clattenburg
    Porto - Sevilla: Stark/Eriksson

    Semis: Collum/Rizzoli/Kassai/Brych
    Final: Cakir

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    1. Or Rocchi instead of Orasto, Stark instead of Aytekin and Rocchi for Stark.

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  30. Anonymous21/3/14 15:05

    Real-BVB: Rizzoli/ Cakir
    ManU-Bayern: Mazic/Proenca
    Barca-Atletico:Webb/Kassai
    Paris-Chelsea: Skomina/Velasco

    These early predicitions under the expectation that the three hot final candidates Eriksson/Kuipers/Brych are kept for semis and especially the final.

    best regards
    phil

    Best regards
    Phil

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  31. Anonymous21/3/14 15:11

    Niclas, do you have video on these two incidents regarding Valencia - Ludgorets? The handball and the penalty claim from Ludgorets?

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    1. Choose the 2nd video and go to 40' and 43'. For me there is no deliberate handball and I consider a (2nd) YC for simulation as adequate, although it was not the most classical type of simulation since the player stood up and continued to go for the ball. The same player stopped a promising attack in 80' and was not cautioned...also very borderline. Overall the Greek team did well.

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    2. Sorry but where i can find the video?

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    3. Oh, sorry, I forgot to post the video link.
      http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-europa-league/valencia-vs-ludogorets

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    4. Niclas the first YC does not exist in min 40.No Handball,
      the penalty does also not exist so the referee is right,but maybe a YC for simulation is needed,so red card for him for second yellow-borderline decision.
      But 83 again the same player stops a promising attack ,so the yellow card is needed and of course red...
      Not a very solid performance from greek team,and at one big mistake for him so 7.9 for missing second YC IMO.
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    5. Strictly applying the Laws of the Game, #80 had to be sent off in the course of the game (either in 43' or in 80'). Normally missing 2nd YCs is however no reason for a 7.9 according to the info we got from UEFA insiders. You can read in my report why I decided to back the referee with listing this point as a room for improvement in future.
      Thanks for your judgments!

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    6. Sorry but i have to disagree with you.Its considered to be a critical mistake which leads to 7.9, if you miss a second YC to a player.Its clear to all federations by UEFA.You can ask again your sources but i am sure since i am an international referee,and already have experience on that matter.You see it has happened to me and i received 7.9 from the observer.Check it out again.Additionally there are a lot of referees or Uefa obs who reed this blog and can confirm you that.THANKS FOR YOUR TIME

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    7. Thanks for your reply Pedro. The info the I have about 2nd YC leading to 7.9 speaks about mandatory situations worthy of a YC. Not every situation when the card was possible but couldn't be issued as well.

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    8. Thanks Pedro. We will definitely consult our sources again, who were however quite sure and paid attention on the distinction between mandatory cards and black-and-white-cards in this context. Can you say whether you received the 7.9 for a missed MANDATORY booking or a situation which demanded interpretation?
      On the situations I agree with you. I just think Sidiropoulos should learn from these incidents without necessarily suffering from it in the mark system, given the fact that the rest was very fine.
      We are aware of the last point you mentioned and give our best. Regards.

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  32. Anonymous21/3/14 15:55

    Report for Kuipers is missing in additional time

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  33. My prediction / guess:
    Barca - Atl. Madrid: Skomins - Brych
    Real - BVB: Cakir - Rizzoli
    PSG - Chelsea: Stark - Velasco C.
    ManU - Bayern: Undiano M. - Proenca

    Keeping available for Semis: Kuipers/Eriksson/Webb/Kassai
    Final: Skomina

    AZ - Benfica: Rocchi - Atkinson
    Lyon - Juventus: Thomson - Benquerenca O.
    Basel - Valencia: Bebek - Kralovec
    Porto - Sevilla: Clattemburg - Collum

    Keeping Stark - Lannoy - Mazic and Moen available for Semif.
    Final: Undiano Mallenco
    What do u think?

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    1. Anonymous21/3/14 18:05

      My prediction / guess:
      Barca - Atl. Madrid: Webb - Brych
      Real - BVB: Kassai - Rizzoli
      PSG - Chelsea: Skomina- Velasco C.
      ManU - Bayern: Mazic - Proenca

      Keeping available for Semis: Rizzoli/Eriksson or Kuipers/Webb/Cakir
      Final: Personal favorite: Kuipers, otherwise Eriksson or if no German team maybe Brych

      AZ - Benfica: Rocchi - Atkinson
      Lyon - Juventus: Thomson - Benquerenca O.
      Basel - Valencia: Tagliavento - Kralovec
      Porto - Sevilla: Clattenburg - Collum

      Stark - Undiano - Mazic and Moen available for Semif.
      Final: Brych really deserves one and I don't think it's gonna be CL. Cakir outsider


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    2. Dear Anonymous,

      I had it in place ... do not bet on Olegario Benquerença;). He is injured, has a spine problem.

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  34. Anonymous22/3/14 00:59

    http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/programas/reportagemsic/2014-03-20-pedro-proenca-na-grande-reportagem-sic

    Next tuesday. A day in Proença and Team life ...

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  35. OT incredible mistake by Marriner sending off a wrong player after a deliberate handball on the line. I don't know why he showed the RC to another Arsenal player.

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    1. I can't believe what I've just seen! Absolutely astonishing.

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    2. Anonymous22/3/14 14:45

      What's about fact, that ball wasn't even in direction to goal? It's possible to "survive" with yellow card or even without a card?

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    3. Anonymous23/3/14 10:58

      Great mistake of Marriner(referee middling) and the assistent.

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  36. Anonymous22/3/14 14:45

    What's about fact, that ball wasn't even in direction to goal? It's possible to "survive" with yellow card or even without a card?

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  37. OT: Anyone know why the subs are warming up to the left side on the pitch in PL?

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    1. Anonymous23/3/14 02:03

      They had an incident where an AR got injured after a collision with a player warming up.

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  38. A piece of great sidestep movement. Not only by Darren England...
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=984759981564218

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  39. The pdf host's server has problems today which makes us unable to upload the reports.
    The marks are:
    Karasev 7.9 (8.4) in RMA-S04; Brych 8.4 in CHE-GAL, Gräfe 7.9 (8.6) in SAL-BAS; Sidiropoulos 8.3 in VAL-LUD and Proenca 8.5 in BET-SEV.

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  40. Anonymous23/3/14 18:09

    What about Skomina?

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  41. Anonymous23/3/14 19:25

    Off-topic:

    I just checked the names of the 21 referees who took or will take charge of the 42 UEFA U17 qualifying matches this spring:

    They include the names of all new category 3 referees with the constraint that countries with two new category 3 referees will be represented by only one of them: Croatia by Fran Jovic, Denmark by Jens Maae and Poland by Bartosz Frankowski with their compatriots Tihomir Pejin/CRO, Anders Poulsen/DEN and Tomasz Musial/POL being retained.

    So far so good. But there is one exception: Scottish new category 3 referee Paul Robertson is also excluded from this list - but who is this guy who seemingly did not handle just a single Premiership match so far and how did he become a FIFA referee?

    Peter/Vienna

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    1. Hi Peter, a question about that.
      I was checking the officials involved here, too.
      I have a problem on uefa.com site.
      Could you check there:
      http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2014/matches/round=2000379/match=2013504/prematch/player-lists/index.html
      and tell me whether you can read or not the name of the officials.
      It seems that the section has been added but the names are not available (I have an empty page on my browsers).
      Thank you in advance.
      Regards.

      PS the same for all the other matches, at least in my pc.
      http://www.imagebam.com/image/6cbc6b316255858

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    2. I have the same issue, but you can see the refereeing team through the matchcentre

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    3. Anonymous24/3/14 08:23

      Hi Chefren and Albin,

      Albin already gave you the correct answer. ;-)

      Two referees per group are appointed for the first matchday and the third referee is one of the two fourth officials (the one not from the host country = the fourth official at the match with participation of the host country on matchday 1).

      Kind regards from Vienna,
      Peter

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    4. Anonymous26/3/14 02:38

      The Scottish FIFA referee Paul Robertson has been injured for some months unfortunately

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  42. Undiano Mallenco facing a very challenging "El Clasico".
    Pepe is a player who, in my humble opinion, should be banned forever from football.

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  43. Chefren, I have the same problem. I can only check the referees on here: http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2014/matches/byround/index.html
    But I guess you are looking specifically for the other officials, can't help you there I'm afraid.

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  44. Thomas and Albin thanks, so it's a UEFA.com problem.
    I was looking for info about observers.
    BTW Alexandru Deaconu (ROU) and Christakis Skapoullis (CYP) are two observers involved in Netherlands (group 3).
    It would be nice to know more about the other ones.

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  45. Anonymous24/3/14 00:02

    Although penalty for Real should've been a free kick, the rest of Undiano Mallenco's performance was very good:

    5' - Dani Alves slightly pushes Ronaldo, who exaggeratedly falls down, acceptable call to not whistle a penalty

    15' - superb onside by AR2

    18' - Pepe seems to slightly touch the ball before Neymar falls for his leg, acceptable call to play on

    25' - Ramos should've been booked for kicking the ball away after whistle

    27' - undeliberate handball in the wall inside a penalty area, correct decision to play on

    43' - small riot between Fabregas and Pepe rightly finished with two yellow cards, then there happened something incredible that has been missed by everybody:
    http://tinyurl.com/pmwcumd

    52' - probably slight offside missed by AR2 leading to an OGSO

    54' - wrong penalty for Real, Alves fouled Ronaldo outside the box, yellow card for SPA should've been given

    63' - correct penalty for Barcelona and red card to Ramos for DOGSO, prior to that Messi seems to be slightly offside

    77' - Bale is kicked by Pique inside the box, however he played the ball by studs-up, so being kind to referee, missed indirect free kick for Barcelona ;)

    84' - correct penalty for Barcelona, clear foul of Xabi Alonso on Iniesta

    I think that 7.9 (8.6) would be an adequate mark.

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    1. Anonymous24/3/14 10:32

      Exact. Only one great mistake of Undiano.

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  46. Anonymous24/3/14 15:12

    Off topic. I'm confused by the new offside rule. Is this offside or not at 4:47? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fagcLUkJMjs

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    1. Offside. He gained an advantage by being in that position compliant with the new, but also with the old offside rule.

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  47. Anonymous24/3/14 20:56

    OT: In Portugal, with Proença in Switzerland and Benquerença injured, Marco Ferreira was chosen to handle the top clash between FCPorto and Benfica (Portuguese Cup Semi-Final).
    He also handled recently the match between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon for the Portuguese League and had a great performance.
    Curiously, the portuguese newspaper 'Record' considers him as "potential successor of Pedro Proença at the highest level of european refereeing":
    Link (in portuguese):
    http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/Arbitragem/interior_premium.aspx?content_id=874446

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  48. A Spanish journalist has stated on twitter that Carlos Velasco was originally supposed to handle Betis - Malaga on Sunday, but has been replaced by Antonio Mateu Lahoz. Velasco is appointed for UCL on Tuesday
    ---> Velasco will handle Manchester Utd. - Bayern München, and IMO this appointment makes sense.

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    1. Yes it would make sense because it is the only match without Spanish involvments apart from PSG - Chelsea, but Velasco had already Chelsea. At any rate, I hope to see Mazic name soon somewhere, otherwise we might be allowed to be worried about him.

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    2. Anonymous25/3/14 20:10

      http://www.rts.rs/page/sport/sr/story/36/Fudbal/1557159/Srpske+sudije+me%C4%91u+najboljima!.html

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    3. Excellent, thank you very much.
      I needed to read something like that.
      So a leak of news directly from Zurich? :)

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    4. Anonymous25/3/14 20:37

      Posted 6 hours ago on the official website of Serbian state television (RTS) and all the news-blogs in Serbia.

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    5. Anonymous25/3/14 20:43

      The article starts wrong to say that it is Mazic more 24 that are there. Actually there are 14 trios, more 3 duos. Are then 17.

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    6. Anonymous25/3/14 20:53

      You're welcome, Chefren. You really think that some of the journalists think about the numbers?! Who cares? This is the news from the official site of Serbian state television, not a blog that deals with the profession.

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  49. Marriner and Perry have been immediately appointed in PL on next Saturday. I can't believe that.

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  50. Anonymous25/3/14 02:03

    I have just seen Undiano,s match on sunday. I am really impressed by his performance. Lots of difficult situations, strong personality and brave decissions! He deserves an appoitment next weeks, maybe a UCL quarterfinal

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    1. Anonymous25/3/14 03:03

      Right. It's a real pity that lenient and too relaxed Velasco Carballo goes for WC instead of him...

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    2. Don't forget that both had their chances to convince UEFA and specially Collina. Undiano mostly disappointed them, even though his domestic performances are good in top clashes. But same goes for Manuel Gräfe in Germany...and does he go to Brazil? No.

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    3. Anonymous25/3/14 13:48

      Velasco Carballo doesn't convince anybody in every match. He is poor.

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    4. To be honest, I don't see this big difference between Velasco and Undiano. Nevertheless, the pitch will answer to our question.

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    5. Anonymous25/3/14 20:34

      Undiano is still young, only 40. Do you think he has a chance to achieve 2018 WC? It would be a deserved reward after surprising Bussacca decission to leave him out of 2014 WC despite his more than correct performance in Fifa matches. Some spanish journalists have said he, s been very affected by fifa choice although he was the first in congratulate Velasco.

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  51. Anonymous25/3/14 13:16

    Kuipers is out for 1st legs of QF CL/EL. He has a match in the Netherlands on 2 April and van Roekel is back!

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    1. That was expected. After three matches in a few weeks, now he is out at least until semifinals IMHO.

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  52. Anonymous25/3/14 13:17

    It seems as if Van Roekel is back on track again. Team Kuipers handles FC Utrecht - Cambuur next wednesday with Van Roekel as AR1.

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  53. Howard Webb has a match on Monday evening (31/03) in PL, so he is surely out from CL next week's matches.

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  54. An interesting album of WC referees in training today, can be found here:
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.834886559860526.1073742004.606721589343692&type=1
    it is the official profile of 2014 FIFA WC on Facebook

    there is a very interesting pic, among the other ones:
    http://www.imagebam.com/image/b6da42316661561

    furthermore, it is reported that other pics will be added later on this week

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  55. RFEF has confirmed the absence of Velasco, Alonso and Yuste since they are on international duty next week. So MNU-BAY is officially confirmed.

    ["Quedan anuladas las designaciones de los Srs. Velasco Carballo, Alonso Fernández y Yuste Jiménez para el partido REAL BETIS BPIE / MÁLAGA CF, previsto para el día 31 del actual, por haber sido designados para un partido internacional en las mismas fechas"]

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  56. Anonymous26/3/14 06:16

    Epic mistake of Aitor Ríos Pérez during the yesterday's match between Málaga and Espanyol:

    http://tinyurl.com/qjlgt58

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    1. Anonymous26/3/14 11:26

      I would not call this mistake as epic, it is a "normal" mistake, a missed offside. Quite blatant, yes, but it is not rare to see such situations.

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    2. Anonymous26/3/14 14:11

      I disagree. It didn't happen from one year or maybe even more in my league to miss such big offside.

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  57. Anonymous26/3/14 12:39

    Great mistake, not normal.

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  58. I must say to Cheffren that Undiano and Velasco are enough differents.
    But with one similar level.

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  59. Anonymous26/3/14 13:42

    @ Carlos: Do you have any news regarding the results from yesterday's FIFA fitness test in Zurich?

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    1. Don't know jet but I already send some mail asking, we will see if I get an answer...
      I don't really expect some to fail from Uefa /AFC, stats say it's much more probable in the second group (Conmebol and Caf are high rates). But do you spect some specific to fail? Asking for those specific names is easier than for the hole group.

      Regards

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    2. Anonymous26/3/14 16:25

      As you said, I also expect all UEFA/AFC refs to pass. Just wondering whether some ARs could cause problems again, as it happened in the past. By the way, is the trio policy still applying, so, if an AR fails the entire trio will be replaced?

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    3. I suspect that there is a substitute AR in each trio. I don't know if it is true but it has happened in the past.

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    4. On the very first AR pick that made the referees there was a third AR if I remember correctly, so that if an AR fails there is always a stand by. I could also imagine that in CAF for example they could pick up one of the reserves ads and call one of those who were out of the list as reserve

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    5. Anonymous26/3/14 17:45

      I see pics posted by Chefren. Why tests also for reserve assistants?

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    6. As you correctly said, these are reserve assistants. So in the case of sudden injuries during the game, these ARs must be able to replace the injured official. That's why they naturally have to go through the fitness tests as well.

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    7. Anonymous27/3/14 12:22

      So, can we have again situations like Mejuto or Amarilla, who lost their spots because their ARs failed the fitness test? Or FIFA has changed the trio policy?

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  60. UEFA Disciplinary decisions

    for Bayern: http://www.uefa.org/disciplinary/news/newsid=2078125.html

    and Basel: http://www.uefa.org/disciplinary/news/newsid=2078987.html

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