April 7, 2014

Champions League Quarterfinals: Jonas Eriksson and Howard Webb appointed

UEFA Referees Committee has appointed the Swedish Elite official Jonas Eriksson to handle the clash between Bayern München and Manchester United. He will be assisted by his regular team. After the Round of 16 match involving Manchester City and FC Barcelona, this will be the second game in the CL KO stage for the Swedish crew.
At the same time, English official Howard Webb will take control of the Spanish derby between Atlético Madrid and FC Barcelona . He will be there after having officiated the tie between Schalke 04 and Real Madrid in the Round of 16 of the same competition.
Both matches ended in a 1-1 draw in the first leg, therefore the qualification is still open to any outcome.

We wish both officials good luck. 




09 April 2014, 20:45 CET
Allianz Arena, München, Germany
Bayern München - Manchester Utd.
Referee: Jonas Eriksson (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mathias Klasenius (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Wärnmark (SWE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Johannesson (SWE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Markus Strömbergsson (SWE)
Fourth Official: Daniel Gustavsson (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Geir Thorsteinsson (ISL)
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

09 April 2014, 20:45 CET
Estadio Vicente Calderón, Madrid, Spain
Atlético Madrid - FC Barcelona
Referee: Howard Webb (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Michael Mullarkey (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Darren Cann (ENG)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Michael Oliver (ENG) 
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Fourth Official: Jake Collin (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Wilfried Heitmann (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Nebojša Ivković (SRB)
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

61 Comments:

  1. Giuseppe7/4/14 11:25

    It´s not easy hit upon UEFA.

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  2. Anonymous7/4/14 11:37

    Now there is only one safe bet for semi: Rizzoli

    Best regards
    Phil

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  3. I agree with Swedish observer. I think that this appointment make difficult to see again Eriksson in final, so Kuipers seems to have gained a certain advantage today. But we will see, everything it's possible. One thing for sure, I didn't expect Jonas so early again.
    Updated predictions: Mazic, Rizzoli, Kassai, Cakir for semifinals (no problems with teams since they are all from different countries). Final: Kuipers.

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  4. Anonymous7/4/14 12:01

    Why not Cakir in Final and Kuipers in semi ?

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    1. No matches in CL ko stage and then suddenly the final? I think this never happened

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    2. Anonymous7/4/14 12:07

      I think that Cakir would have had a CL KO stage appointment already if he was seriously considered for the CL final.... Kuipers is most likely going to have the CL final now, and that's very deserved, although I would like to see Brych handling a final too!

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    3. Anonymous7/4/14 14:21

      Chefren, this happened in 2008. Lubos Michel was injured, then got semi of UEL and then UCL finale.

      Regards.
      P.L.

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  5. I don't if it is a fair comparison (this is quite some time ago, also when the setup of the tournaments was different), but according to the Worldreferee database, PLC himself was in this situation in CL season 1998-1999: there he only had three group stage matches and the final.

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    1. And in the 2009-2010 CL season, Webb had the final (Bayern München - Internazionale) and he also officiated the quarter final between Internazionale and CSKA. So in that respect, I think the final is still possible for Eriksson.

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    2. Of course assuming that one of Bayern or Manchester Utd. are reaching this year's CL final :)

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    3. If I remember correctly Lubus Michel also had the final without KO game, only group stage matches before the big "English" final.

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  6. Anonymous7/4/14 12:30

    Mine: Rizzoli. Moen, Cakir, and Stark for semifinals. Agree for Kuipers at final.

    ==Nash==

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  7. Anonymous7/4/14 14:16

    I think this year the semis and the final are a kind of "unpredictable"...
    As I posted above, Rizzoli should be the only safe bet for semis because
    1. he had no quarterfinal
    2. he did a very good job in Arsenal-Bayern
    3. no italian team is in CL
    4. he already officated CL and EL finals --> no option for each final

    Concerning the other refs, I would say "everything is possible". There are many question which are hard to answer:
    1. Will we see quarterfinal refs in the semis?
    2. Will Cakir get a KO stage match or the final or doesn´t PLC regard him as he did last season with Proenca?
    3. Will the final ref be chosen by performance principle (as it should be) or will the final be a kind of "sorry" for a ref for not being nominated for WC?
    4. How much will the abilities of AR´s be taken into account for the nomination for further matches? This could be a crucial question for Skomina and Kassai.
    5. What are the matches in the semis and what style of refereeing is maybe most suitable for the match? (el clasico IMO needs a ref who has big alertness for unsporting behaviour and is very respected by the Players while a match like e.g. ManU-Chelsea needs a ref who allows a lot of physical play while a match like e.g. Barca-Bayern needs a ref who lets the game flow)

    For these reasons, I have no idea what will happen in the last 5 games. My feeling is that the remaining five games will be officated by refs of this pool: Rizzoli, Kuipers, Eriksson, Kassai, Proenca, Brych, Mazic, Cakir, Webb

    best regards
    phil

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    1. A very good analysis Phil, thank you for sharing.

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    2. Anonymous7/4/14 14:26

      Answers:
      1. No
      2. Cakir will get a semifinal in CL
      3. Performance principle
      4. Of course UEFA will evaluate everything, Kassai and Skomina are at any rate no names for a final this year, but for other reasons
      5. Still too early to answer, but Rizzoli should not get again Bayern. Cakir is suitable for Spanish teams as he showed in EL, Kassai in my opinion can be appointed in each match, the same goes for Mazic.

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  8. Anonymous7/4/14 16:20

    What about EL observers?

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  9. Anonymous7/4/14 16:48

    A question about UEFA observers, if you can ask it would be nice to learn.
    I wanted to know whether observers work is evaluated in a certain way by UEFA committee. I mean. Do they trust always every report without questioning? What happens if they spot clear mistakes? Of course, this argument can be referred to all the observers without committee members. Is there a official ranking of observers, and perhaps we don't know that? I mean, observers evaluate referees, but who evaluates the observers? I hope it's clear what I meant, thanks.

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    1. Anonymous7/4/14 17:25

      In Sweden the Referee's committee and various referee coaches ask the referees to mark the observers. This weighed into the equation, but in the end it is up to the committe to evaluate the observers. I assume the same happens in UEFA - and it is easier to evaluate an observer's job since all matches are available for review on tv. In the end all goes down to the fact that the observer has to be good - and also being able to bring the knowledge on to the referees.

      /Swedish observer

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  10. Copa Del Rey Final

    Barcelona - Real Madrid (16 April)

    Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz
    AR1: Pau Cebrian Devis
    AR2: Raul Cabanero Martinez
    FO: Carlos Clos Gomez
    Obs: Teodoro Sobrino Magan

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  11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTA8ejehOU
    :P

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  12. Anonymous7/4/14 18:36

    I think that cakir will be referee fin final of champions league in lisbon 2014 for semifinals my predictions are rizzoli moen kuipers kassai

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  13. Anonymous7/4/14 19:56

    Cakir was planned for last years CL final but that "nani-red card situation" ruined the plan so i think he will get a final but i dont know if it will be CL or EL

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  14. About Cakir, I guess he will have CL semi final and EL final...

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  15. Anonymous9/4/14 22:43

    Eriksson did a fine match in Munich, but not as good as he usually is. Some inconcistencies in the foul detection (especially in the last five mins of the first half). The first booking in the match looked harsh too. Apart from that I think he managed the game well. 8.3 would presumably be my mark in the end in a match of normal difficulty. 8,4 to both Klasenius and Wärnmark tonight - they did what they should.

    /Swedish observer

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    1. Again, I agree completly.

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    2. Just one remark, I think Klasenius' correctly disallowed goal deserves an 8.5. It was really very tight as the virtual line has shown (only the upper body).

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    3. Anonymous9/4/14 22:51

      True.

      /Swedish observer

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    4. Hi Swedish observer, I was wondering whether you could help me with something. I came across an article about Eriksson in Swedish, and while I could understand the gist of it (Eriksson wasn't bothered with Pellegrini's comments, managers do it all the time etc and so on) I was VERY intrigued by the last few paragraphs of the article.
      It seems to be suggested that Eriksson is seriously considering retirement after the World Cup. Could you perhaps help us with the translation and shine your light on this news?
      Thanks in advance, also for your many contributions :)

      Article here: http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/champions-league/efter-stormatchen---eriksson-ser-slutet-av-karriaren-/

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    5. Anonymous9/4/14 23:24

      The missed freekick and YC for Lahm for the challenge on Evra was shocking.

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    6. Anonymous10/4/14 08:37

      Hi Thomas,

      Interesting article which I had not noticed before. It is apparantly an interview with Jonas Eriksson. The article ends roughly like this:

      "Eriksson has five years left to FIFA's mandatory retirement age of 45. But he admits in the interview that he, after this summer's World Cup, sees the end of the career coming closer.

      - I will think about this when I come back home after the World Cup. When I became a professional referee, I set the goals to referee at the UEFA EURO 2012 and the FIFA World Cup 2014. At the moment, I don't think that I will referee for five more years. You should quit when you are at the top and have the most fun, but we will have to wait and see."

      Well, we will have to wait and see what the future holds for Jonas. He would be eligible for both UEFA EURO 2016 and FIFA World Cup 2018. I hope that he continues to develop, and even if it is a very tough job to referee at the world's top level, I hope that this makes it worthwile to continue. But it is of course up to him, and Jonas is a smart guy who obviously knows best what's the right thing for him to do.

      /Swedish observer

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    7. Everything will be up to Eriksson, I share Swedish observer's view.
      We must also remember that he is a FIFA referee since 2002, so a very long time. Having turned professional with the goal of Euro 2012 and WC 2014 and having attended both tournaments could be finally enough for him. Probably this is the meaning of the interview. We will see, anyway the pity is that in case of retirement, his age (40 y. o.) would be still suitable for further 5 years on international stage. On the other hand, there are many FIFA referees who would like to continue their experience but they are forced to retire due to age. :)
      As for now, the future for Sweden, after Eriksson, should be Martin Strombergsson, at least according to UEFA appointments.
      I don't know if you agree, Swedish Observer...

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    8. Thanks for the explanation, both of you. So the article is not as clear-cut as I had thought it to be. Another explanation for these words is that Eriksson likes to keep his options open. He has of course total financial security and to some extent he can do what he wants. I guess there are more referees thinking about what to do after the World Cup.
      I agree about Strömbergsson, Chefren. We will probably see more from him next season.

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    9. Anonymous10/4/14 10:53

      I do have some doubts about Strömbergsson to be honest. I hope that he proves me wrong. He is after all born in 1977 so if he will get his breakthrough it has to be in 2014 or 2015 at the latest.

      There are some younger candidates here in Sweden who seem very promising, and Andreas Ekberg is one of them. Look out for him. Some other youngsters are coming up but they have still not achieved FIFA status. I am thinking of Mohammad al Hakim (born 1985) and Kristoffer Karlsson (born 1984). They are, or have already, been in the UEFA core course for future FIFA referees, and I think the chances are high that both will be FIFA referees soon.

      This weekend a real comet is having his debut in the Swedish Premier League, after only one year in the division below. His name is Glenn Nyberg and his born in 1988. I have no doubts that he will be on the FIFA list in 2-3 years time. Remember where you heard his name first! :-)

      /Swedish observer

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    10. In my opinion Eriksson should have sent off Evra in 70'. He was actually the last man, the defender in the middle had no chance to intervene. The only thing that could defend the yellow-card-decision is that Robben did not have 100% balance and thus did not have absolute control over the ball. However, I would have favoured a red card here.

      moment of the foul:
      https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t34.0-12/967724_545428575573855_190829234_n.jpg?oh=c43226640bd299d86779eea7b437d4e8&oe=5348007F&__gda__=1397234581_fb44d0e2f17a4169a6e4e7d98a81e5b2

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    11. Anonymous10/4/14 15:23

      My feeling when the incident happened was that Robben was too far out in the field of play to have an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

      I still have that view, even though I can see that you have a valid argument here.

      In the end, I think that both red and yellow could be acceptable here, and then I choose to back the referee's view.

      /Swedish observer

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    12. Anonymous10/4/14 16:11

      It's not Nybergs first game in the Swedish Premier League. The debut was last season. But he had a really bad game on monday so a little surprise he's getting this match as reward.

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    13. Anonymous10/4/14 16:19

      My mistake - you are totally correct in that Nyberg had his first match in the end of last season.

      /Swedish observer

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    14. The match of Eriksson in Munich was not fine. Too mistakes!

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  16. Webb had a very very challenging match in Madrid with many important penalty area decisions (live impression was that all were solved correctly), a furious home crowd and a very strong personality. Here and there the Laws of the Game were, as usual, bent a lot...but actually this could have been one reason why he had full control until the final whistle - small lacks in the last 5 minutes, but he actually did what was possible. My biggest doubt is the 1:0 goal. Actually there seemed to be a foul by an attacker who made the header leading to the goal scored by Koke. AAR1 had a clear angle on this.
    Your opinions?

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    1. Maybe it´s OK, the defender was going backwards, and it looks like attacker didn´t use his arms to gain a better position.

      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1n3ekq_atletico-madrid-1-0-barcelona-match-highlights_sport

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    2. Thanks for the quick video. Indeed, the Barca player just did not jump that highly. Everything fair.

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    3. Watching the goal live, my first impression was foul on the defender, and it would be very interesting to know whether there was a real involvement by Oliver, AAR1. He was surely in the best position to evaluate that.
      The other situations happened in penalty areas are indeed very interesting and difficult to evaluate. In one case, I think that also AAR2 Taylor was involved.

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    4. Let me hear your opinions on the 3 penalty appeals in Webb's match please.

      http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/europe/uefa-champions-league/atletico-madrid-vs-barcelona-4

      41' BAR #14 on ATL #7; 44' ATL #2 on BAR #4, 72' BAR #14 on ATL #9.

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    5. Anonymous10/4/14 14:33

      41' - penalty could've been given, but taking into consideration an almost lost ball and exeggarated fall, it was smart to let play on

      44' - it was very clever from #4-BAR who deliberately put his leg between legs of an opponent and fell down easily; assistance from AAR is clear

      72' - I would say most of media are right, demanding a penalty here, BUT there is a big question mark with that, if you watch situation more carefully. See the right hand of #9-ATM, who seems to hit the Mascherano's face exactly at the same moment as he is pushed by the opponent. Whistling only one foul would be quite unfair, so allowing play to continue was smart and based on great game-feeling, Webb definitely has.

      Having said that, I would personally go with the ref in every critical situation mentioned above.

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    6. 41´ - I must admit that if I was the referee, I would go for penalty kick in this situation, because there is pulling and nobody can deny it. But then again, Webb is WC referee.

      44´ - no penalty kick, clear situation for me

      72´ - penalty kick, again clear situation for me (pushing)

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    7. I´m really impatient for your referee observer´s report on Webb´s team performance, Niclas. :)

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    8. Anonymous10/4/14 17:10

      First two situations: no penalty
      last situation: very boarderline. one the one hand I really like physical play but on the other hand it isn´t really shoulder against shoulder but more shoulder against back. Therefore, I would say 80% penalty. So, I think this no-penalty call is acceptable if it fits to Webb´s line in the game.

      best regards
      phil

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  17. Anonymous10/4/14 12:11

    First two incidents I think that are spot on. Taylor takes the first decision and probably Oliver the second one which is rather easy in my opinion. The third one, foul from Mascherano on David Villa is a clear penalty. That's the problem with Webb this season. He has skipped so many penalties and red cards in England that his confidence in big decisions is rather low.

    Just see his statistics. It's a World Cup year and he is low on confidence in big decisions. Still one of my favorite referees but he missed a clear penalty last night.

    And over the season in Premier League he has missed many red cards and penalties. It's a pity.

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  18. Anonymous10/4/14 22:34

    Niclas, shame on you, Web does not deserve that mark!!!

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    1. Wow, I didn´t expect so high mark!

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    2. Anonymous, thanks, we have taken note of it. But we think differently.

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    3. Anonymous11/4/14 09:23

      In my view, Webb deserved so high mark in this match. His decisions about situations in penalty areas were either absolutely correct or at least acceptable. Discussion can arise about card management but Niclas wrote his view very reasonably and probably at this level observers think similarly. If referee didn't give the card which was not absolutely mandatory and this his decision didn't lead to problems then everything should be OK also for observer.
      But this is only my opinion, not the sight from inside. :)

      Best regards.
      P.L.

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    4. Anonymous11/4/14 11:44

      I think if you look only at the mark it's a bit too high for my taste. I don't like the fact that with mr. Webb the rules are almost Always bent so much. For me it was a bit too much of the bending.. Maybe I still don't like the style of mr. Webb because of the last WC final. We know that this style of bending can lead to a disaster! But I agree with the "very good" performance. My mark would have been 8.6/8.7

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    5. We considered the match difficulty as almost "category 4" which does not exist. It was actually more than very challenging. Plus three correct crucial situations (and one additional which we called acceptable) partly based on a good co-operation with the team, personality, management, approach and control as main advantages make it 8.9 as a starting mark. The three points for improvement mentioned were no real reason for reduction. And okay, we can talk about 1 or 2 missed yellow cards, but I pointed out the reasons why I regarded them as tolerable. Otherwise we would have been in the 8.7 area, probably.

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    6. Well Anonymous2. Howard Webb wasn't my favorite referee either. Especially after the WC final it was rather the opposite. But as Niklas said we talked about his performance and we came to the conclusion that he deserves such a high mark.

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  19. Anonymous11/4/14 13:55

    First early predictions:
    Real-Bayern: Webb; Proenca
    Chelsea-Atletico: Cakir, Rizzoli

    Best regards
    phil

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  20. Anonymous11/4/14 17:06

    One question. I love this blog. But what are the argument for no penalty in the situation regarding David Villa and Javier Mascherano?

    The argument can't be that Villa's hand touched Masch face. Then it should have been a free kick? He didn't think that was a foul and giving nothing for the foul when Mascherano goes straight into David Villas back is a wrong decision. Everyone can see that. Even Howard in replays.

    Howard is one of my favorite referees but we have to be fair. Even if he his popular among people here he has to get the right critics. In UEFA you will never see 8,9. That's for sure. I respect opinions and that's important. I was just wondering :)

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    1. It's definitely no argument that he maybe missed the first elbow. On the contrary.
      The main argument is that Mascherano did not clearly push his opponent with both his arms. As Phil outlined, it was not shoulder on shoulder but rather shoulder / upper arm vs back... but it suited to Webb's line and in an internal discussion and voting, Thomas, Edward, Chefren and I came to the conclusion that we back the referee here and accept it as physical play.
      If such a situation happened in one of my matches, I would have given a penalty for sure. That's why we didn't call it correct but still acceptable. Of course we and Howard are on thin ice saying that / deciding like that.

      True. You will never find 8.9. Last season there was one 8.8 for a similar performance, but I don't know about other cases. Probably we have more extremes in our marks, positively and negatively. That's why we ask you to not consider us and our reports as "UEFA's 2nd hand"...it is important for us that we have consistency in our reports and give honest and independent feedback arousing from our conviction. So we are open to praise extremely good performances, but also to be honest when sth was far below what you can expect. So: we are not UEFA.

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    2. Anonymous11/4/14 21:11

      I agree. You are not UEFA. Indeed you are not. But I still like you and your work. Very much. Keep up your good work.

      /Swedish observer

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  21. Anonymous11/4/14 21:23

    Very good answer Niclas. As I said, I respect other opinions as you do as well :)

    I don't agree though that we can call this acceptable but we respect each others opinion:)

    Thanks again for a great blog and very important one.

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  22. Ah of course we do and I have many sympathies for your opinion.
    Thanks. Encouragements like these make the work even more enjoyable :)

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