July 3, 2014

Ravshan Irmatov and Nicola Rizzoli to complete Quarterfinals appointments

FIFA has selected Ravshan Irmatov and Nicola Rizzoli to take charge of World Cup 2014's quarterfinal matches Netherlands - Costa Rica and Argentina - Belgium respectively.



QUARTERFINALS, Match 60
05 July 2014, 18:00 CET
Estádio Nacional Mané Garrincha, Brasilia
ARGENTINA - BELGIUM
Referee: Nicola RIZZOLI (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Renato FAVERANI (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Andrea Edoardo STEFANI (ITA)
Fourth Official: Benjamin WILLIAMS (AUS) 
Standby Assistant Referee: Matthew CREAM (AUS)
Blog Referee Observer: Nur H. (ENG)

QUARTERFINALS, Match 59
05 July 2014, 22:00 CET
Arena Fonte Nova, Salvador
NETHERLANDS - COSTA RICA
Referee: Ravshan IRMATOV (UZB)
Assistant Referee 1: Abduxamidullo RASULOV (UZB)
Assistant Referee 2: Bakhadyr KOCHKAROV (KGZ)
Fourth Official: Noumandiez DOUE (CIV)
Standby Assistant Referee: Songuifolo YEO (CIV)
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

112 Comments:

  1. Someone can can correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this Irmatov's 9th game at a World Cup? Thus, breaking the record jointly set by Benito Archundia, Jorge Larrionda and Joël Quiniou. Some achievement.

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    1. Yes, record for Irmatov. The first referee ever with 9 appointments at WC.

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    2. And to think that he could be back in 2018

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    3. So he can have 15 WC appointments in his career.... This would mean he's the best referee ever in WC history. Isn't it, in your opinion? I'm a bit doubtful...

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  2. No comment.. Three clearly underperformed and overrated refs (Carballo, Rizzoli and Irmatov) assigned for 1/4 finals. The only sure thing one can say about FIFA Referees' Committee is that they don't know such term as 'performance principle'. Sad thing...

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    1. Yes, for me. I write for me. Does it require extra explanations? Making three big calls wrong in one match should be equivalent to being send home and not being awarded with nice 1/4 final game. This time a level of refereeing is poor and I have nothing against those ref, only against people who assign them despite big errors they had in their games!

      Niclas said about very weak Haimoudi who made one (for me correct) doubtful call re handball and showed us some points for improvement. So how would you call performances of Carballo (URU-ENG), Rizzoli (ESP-NED) and Irmatov/Kochkarov (SUI-ECU and MEX-CRO)?

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    2. Tizio, Hubert is 100% correct. It's definitely political. Irmatov must have some dirt on Busacca. There have been better performing referees. Irmatov should have been out in the same basket as Mazic and Osses.

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    3. It is indeed sad, Vera has been rejected by the Dutch FA and so Irmatov jumped in. You see, politicians define whether you get a match or not. In R16, Irmatov had bad luck (because Argentina wanted someone else), this time he is the lucky boy. There is hardly any performance principle and this has been the case since 1994 at least. We must try to arrange ourselves with it, even though we can criticize it of course.

      Irmatov was lucky that Switzerland and Mexico did not lose by the clear mistakes his team made. Otherwise he would have been out as well.

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    4. Why would the Dutch FA reject Vera? Any possible reason?
      (And related to that: apparently, it is not only FIFA who appoints the referees, also the national associations have something to say about this?)

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    5. Eh, Irmatov mistakes in CRO-MEX? Except a Pranjic Handball, I recall None.

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    6. I'm with you Howard. Irmatov isn't overrated, he's a great referee and has shown it consistently. I do agree that Carballo and Rizzoli are overrated though. Especially after Carballo's performance today in BRA-COL.

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    7. F u, god and ref it yourself,,,oooops, you cant cuz you are fatso )

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  3. Does it mean that Cuneyt Cakir is impossible for the final? Did it happen before to get a WC final without another knock-out stage game?

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    1. It happened for the last time in 1998 with Saiq Belqola from Morocco getting the final after 2 group stage appointments.
      I also think that Cakir is now a candidate for semifinal and then not for the final...

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    2. Some brainless authorities could appoint Carballo, Rizzoli or Irmatov for the final clash. Politics over everything else!

      The best image of nonsense appointments and poor condition of refereeing - mistakes of referees appointed for 1/4 finals. Don't remember refs with such blunders being still appointed in such tournament. Just after one of such errors they were immediately send home. But this time FIFA should send home most of refs. Very poor WC regarding refereeing!

      Rizzoli:
      https://vimeo.com/98195312
      https://vimeo.com/98195313
      https://vimeo.com/98195314

      Irmatov:
      https://vimeo.com/98819365
      http://giant.gfycat.com/EnlightenedLateEstuarinecrocodile.gif

      Carballo:
      https://vimeo.com/98692169
      https://vimeo.com/98694327

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    3. Unfortunately, completely agree, below average performances.

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    4. with respect to Rizzoli I don't see a problem with 2 of the 3 situations. The 2nd video is over acting by Martins Indi (dutch #4). So no card for me. In the 3rd video I ask myself if Casilles would have got the ball if van Persie wasn't there. I don't think so, and therefore no mistake in my opion.

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  4. I'm sorry but this is just rediculous. I don't agree with these appointments at all. My biggest question is: Where is Cakir? This is Irmatov's 4th game in this WC. I think this is just unfair for other referees who deserve much more than these 2. I believe that FIFA had already chosen the Final's referee before the tournament began. This is IMO just sad.

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  5. In a interview with a Dutch Newspaper Jaap Uilenberg, member of UEFA referee committee, stated that the instructions from FIFA are on managing a match with personality.

    A lot of referees survive a match just because of the LOTG and using the cards. I think it is very good that referees get the space to use there personality to lead a match. Offcourse situations which are dangerous for the health of the player should be rewarded with a RC (france vc Nigeria as example).

    For the people who think I'm not thinking about the LOTG. For as long as I know there has been the sentence "according to the referee" at a lot of pages in the book.

    From that point of view it is that I don't understand a lot of the critism on the ref's this World Cup. You can't Always look just at a situation but you have to look on the strategy of the ref. And if it is a bit lenient, what's wrong with that? As long as it doesn't end up in a 11 against 11 fight I don't see the problem.

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    1. The problems are...
      a) low predictability during a match
      b) some referees chosen for 2014 WC are referees focused on the LotG and not using their personality because their domestic competition demands it!
      c) Busacca giving the "space to use personality" sounds nice. It implies that he quite strictly says "follow my instructions, or...!".

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  6. Chefren,for semi final referrees finale impossible!? You mean that?

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    1. Yes I think that referees for semifinals will be out for the final.

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    2. Referees tend not to have the same team twice in a row; the behaviour in match one (semi) could influence (or be seen as to influence) the decisions in the final, which is far from suitable. I'm with Chefren on this one. Also, after checking the Semis and finals in all world cups since 1990 and all UEFA Euros since 1992, it has always been the case that semi-finals, 3rd place finals and finals go to different officials.

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  7. Well, I understand that other referees made better performances. But I think that FIFA considers the ability to controle the whole game. So referees who made good performances without clear mistake in easy match are less consider that e.g. Irmatov, who in CRO-MEX denies a PK but control well a difficult match.Moreover that PK was very difficult to see due to the new Busacca's rule about positioning. Yes, he also made a mistake in SUI-ECU in an offiside, but he gave a clever advantage to SUI.
    As regards Rizzoli, I think his performance in ESP-NED was not so bad. There was the clear mistake on the 1-3, but his control was quite good. In addition to this, Faverani and Stefani were very good in that match.
    As regards Carballo, this is a very strange appointment. He was not good in URU-ENG, but BRA-COL is the most difficult match in my opinion. So, for the last 4 matches I think:
    SF1 (BRA/COL-FRA/GER): Proenca or Cakir
    SF2 (NED/CRC-ARG/BEL): Webb or Cakir
    3F: Webb or Geiger
    F: Irmatov (if good in NED-CRC), otherwise Rizzoli (if good in ARG-BEL) or Cakir

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    1. You are forgetting Eriksson...

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  8. Incredible that you keep considering Rizzoli guilty of blatant mistake when, as it was previously discussed here, his penalty is a very difficult one to determine in the pitch. Even the foul on Casillas is not black and white. Other than that, he is one of the best game managers in Brasil, with perfect foul detection and communication with players. He is a top referee and due to a good performance in this QF, he should be a strong candidate for the final.

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    1. If you read the report, the penalty decision was accepted as correct (or acceptable). The two crucial mistakes in game one were: 1) The violent conduct by Diego Costa; 2) the foul on Casillas. The foul on Casillas is clear to me (now that I watch it again): NED #9 jumps on SPA #1, makes no contact with the ball and then pushes him with his arm. That would be a foul anywhere on the field, and should be a foul in the penalty area as well.

      I do not disagree that Rizzoli has very good game management skills; however, he should be judged on his performance and not on his 'skills'; a good referee who manages the players well but commits several crucial mistakes cannot be trusted. The problem is not only that Rizzoli severely underperformed in his first match, but also that other referees outperformed him (Gassama, Cakir, Eriksson, Kuipers).

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    2. Did you really saw a violent conduct by Diego Costa? Are you serious?

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    3. Hitting an opponent with the head? Yes, violent conduct. Besides, if this is violent conduct (http://youtu.be/FmhUxQ4dFo8?t=25s), so is Costa's headbutt. Pepe's headbutt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS-spCPX2tY) was violent conduct as well; the hit was no stronger than Costa's. You can see Costa's head making a movement towards Martins Indi and contact being made.

      A headbutt is violent conduct. Period.

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  9. Did you mean: undefined
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    As long as it is not officially can certainly semifinals referees also conduct final

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  10. This must be a joke!! irmatov ?? get out of here Busacca !! Go home...

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  11. Good appointments! As I said in an earlier post, the best referees don't necessarily make fewer mistakes than the other referees, but what makes them stand out is their personality, style and ability to control difficult matches and situations that is better than the others.

    For this reason, Rizzoli and Irmatov are two of the best referees at the world cup. For the same reason, Velasco is not one of them. His appointment makes little sense, I would much rather like to see someone like Shukralla or Nishimura (yes, Nishimura) there.

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    1. I agree with you. We should analyse the different reasons that cause crucial mistakes. So, Irmatov was in a bad position during CRO-MEX (we know the problems caused by new positioning rules), Rizzoli probably couldn't see Diego Costa. But in crucial matches like these game management skills will be more and more important. So, Rizzoli and Irmatov have very good game management skills: in the other WC matches (2 for Rizzoli, 8 for Irmatov) I never see them losing the control of the match. In 2010 Irmatov refereed URU-NED, he controlled the match well, whereas Webb travailed very much in NED-ESP. Rizzoli controlled also good NED-ESP, it could have been a very difficult match, remembering 2010. So, I agree also about Velasco. I hope BRA-COL will not become a bullfight...
      norwegianreferee, your predictions for semifinals and final?

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    2. I agree with you and there is no benefit for anybody to outline all these officials' mistakes BEFORE their matches. Prejudices against 3 of the referees appointed won't help in terms of individually criticizing them; criticizing political matters or the lack of performance principle is sth else. Analysis can and should be done AFTER their matches / the tournament.

      Federico, even if you asked norwegian referee, I use the chance to jump in for the predictions ;)

      Depending on whether Brazil or Argentina are going out, I predict Cakir as the final referee, Webb and Ricci for the semifinals:

      COL-GER/FRA: Webb
      NED-BEL: Ricci

      3rd Place: Gassama
      COL-GER/FRA - NED/BEL: Cakir

      If Brazil and Argentina stay in the tournament, Cakir is still the best solution IMO. But Busacca will be in deep trouble to find semifinal referees in this scenario.

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    3. I have just read on other forums that someone said:
      Semifinals: Cakir and Webb
      Final: Irmatov or Cakir if the Uzbek's team makes mistakes tomorrow. In this case, semifinal for Proenca.
      It's strange that Cakir will not be appointed in R16 or QF, it's difficult to think he would be given the final directly.
      NED-CRC could be considered a sort of test for Irmatov?

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  12. Brych must going to home.

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  13. OT (UEFA)
    It seems as in the new update of UEFA Referees Committee (from 1 July 2014), Vassaras is again out.
    Page 9, here:
    http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/Bodies/01/74/52/71/1745271_DOWNLOAD.pdf

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    1. Chefren, your predictions?

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    2. My only sure prediction is Gassama for third place final. We haven't to look at the teams, here.
      About semifinals: Cakir is an option. He could handle BRA/COL vs FRA/GER. In other other semifinal, it is more difficult. Ricci is in my opinion the first candidate, but it would be difficult in case of Argentina. At the same time, Webb couldn't handle Netherlands. So Proença could be again there, despite of his not good performance in NED-MEX. There aren't other options. This is a big problem for committee, many referees who might have reached these matches, failed or were negatively evaluated in group stage (see Nishimura, Roldan [who was considered as a young talent], Rodriguez [the RC was controversial], Brych, Mazic...). So, also for this reason, FIFA is forced to appoint always the same names, between CONMEBOL, UEFA and Irmatov.
      As for the final: I don't see Velasco Carballo candidate. Rizzoli should hope that Argentina (and perhaps also Netherlands) will be eliminated, but I still see his name as not strong for the final. Irmatov could be an opition if Argentina is not there, anyway I must underline (I don't want to be attacked again by Dean Calanto) that his performances are not good as four years ago, but committee seems to have a total trust.
      Other names for the final? Cakir, but in this case he should be out from semifinals, and so in this case there would be still room for Webb.
      I really don't know more, it is very difficult because FIFA is using always the same names. We will be able to say more even this evening, after the first 2 quartefinals.

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    3. And Eriksson?
      And Kuipers if NED don't go to 1/2 or Final?
      For me, Cakir is absolutely secure in 1 of the 4 Final games.

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    4. You are right, Eriksson can be the name for a semifinal.
      Considering that very likely NED will be still there, not Kuipers.

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    5. If NED go to the final and there is a non-UEFA referee there, I could see Kuipers in the 3rd place match.

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    6. No, the third place final is surely for another confederation.
      100%

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    7. I think Gassama is the biggest candidate for the 3rd Place Match.

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  14. OT: U19 Euro referee Tore Hansen not doing too well in Europa League 1st qualifying round. Clear DOGSO missed (no judgement):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zgfRkTQO5k (from 11:50 with clear replay)

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  15. And still. if we talk about the real performances in this WC, we should see still Vera and Webb or Cakir and Geiger and may be Gassama foir the 3rd place, what would be perfect for the development of that big talent.
    The half-final: Could make sense Geiger for BRA-GER, NED-BEL Webb NED - ARG Cakir or Vera, CRC-ARG Webb, CRC-BEL Vera
    If we have a european or Conmebol-pure final, things would be easy with all options for those remaining from the names above. Irmatov... well, I highly appreciated his performances in 2010, now he is only good average. But better than Rizzoli and esp. Velasco, who should be completely banned after his desaster today - not cause of some too many mistakes, but cause he clearly REFUSED to control the game, REFUSED to protect the health of the players - and so VIOLATED the character of football and the idea of fait-play.
    He should be sent home immediately together with Busacca, who is responsible for political appointments, nonsense-orders and wrong given lines confusing the referees and leading to a clear loss of game-control in more than 80% of the matches in this WC.
    But as we know now, any bad surprise by Busacca is possible. The political strategy-discussions ruining the fair-play-ideas for the 100 % - flow of the game haven`t still come to their predictable bitter end.
    NEYMAR today was only the first victim, the last will be the character of football.

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  16. why Howard Webb doesn't get a quarter-final-match after his brilliant performance in the brazil-chile match? Have Massimo Busacca a personal problem with Howard Webb or in general with english people?
    Webb only get two matches so far at this world cup and Irmatov and Pitana get four matches. I can't believe it. this is a joke. Webb deserve 4 matches or more at this WC! there must be something wrong with FIFA and Busacca.

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  17. Costa Rica coach putting pressure on Irmatov: "Please pay attention to Robben's dives..."

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  18. Is there a list of referees who have gone home? or still in Brazil?

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    1. Everyone stays until the end of quarter finals. So no one has been sent home yet (although expect an announcement soon).

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  19. Rizzoli opening in the first minute with doing what Velasco didn't do one single time during the 90+ minutes yesterday: Speaking to players and managing the match.

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  20. Some missed quite obvious fouls, but control was visible from the beginning to the end of the first half. Perhaps because the match is easy to handle for now...

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  21. why only 2 minutes additional time? Have Rizzoli conditional problems? the two Di Maria injury-breaks and the goal-celebration takes all in all 4 minutes!

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  22. Even more missed fouls in the second half. Problems with communication in the team. Again, excellent management skills help Rizzoli much!

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  23. Messi lucky to escape from a YC in the whole match.

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    1. Agree, both his tackles could've easily been yellow-carded.

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  24. Incorrect offside at 84'. Fellaini was level with the last defender.

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    1. Andrea Stefani was overally more confident and just faultless. Renato Faverani a bit worse. Rizzoli with his standard performance - full and well-sell control over players, but a lot of stuff totally missed. His foul detection is below par if we talk about WC 1/4...

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  25. Bad foul detection, a small number of other stuff. Lucky that there were no more challenging situations.

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  26. 8.4/8.3/8.3 in my opinion. Good performance with a few smaller mistakes.

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  27. 8.4/8.3/8.4 IMO. Surely some small mistakes but overall a good performance.

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    1. Stefani was challenged once or maybe twice and wrongly raised his flag for offside in the second half. Should not be 8.4 imo.

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  28. I echo the sentiments of Edward and Niclas - solid outing from the Italian.

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  29. Rizzoli can be now the right name for BRA-GER.
    Indeed, if they want to appoint him again (it is possible), they are forced to assign him to this match, because they can't wait for the result of Argentina semifinal.
    I think Rizzoli couldn't handle Messi and co. for the third time, so BRA-GER seems to be hist last hope.
    Like Collina, who handled this match 12 years ago in final... :)

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    1. Any chances for Marco Rodriguez to get another game

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    2. Only Howard Webb is the right name for brazil-germany!!!!

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  30. For me CONCACAF referee for BRA-GER

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    1. Who?
      Rodriguez or Aguilar?
      Sorry but Geiger is really not possible...

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  31. Stadium almost empty for NED-CRC.
    Rarely seen such scenario at this WC.

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    1. I must correct myself, not true :D

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  32. Not challenging match until now for Irmatov, I still see some (this time minor) positioning problems. Very good NO FLAG Van Persie 21' AR1 Rasulov.

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    1. Other two excellent flags by him.

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  33. Impressive first half by Rasulov, he also reported the first YC of the match, a foul missed by Irmatov.
    I think that Irmatov whistled a phantom foul against Robben a few minutes prior to this scene.

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  34. One incorrect offside flag by Rasulov (?) at the very end, but who can blame him. Fifteen or so were correct.
    However, 2YC for Diaz (90'+1) was mandatory.

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    1. It was Kochkarov. And I agree. Very challenging match for both assistants. I really can't blame him. All the rest was correct.
      I also agree on the missed second YC for Diaz, no explanations for that.

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    2. Maybe he had the pre-match stuff in the back of his mind concerning Robben, who again fell theatrically even though the contact was clear.

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  35. Interesting offside situation in 90+3. Deliberate save on the goalline and then the ball rebounded from the crossbar to an attacker who had been closer to the goalline than the 2nd last defender (goalkeeper) and interfered with an opponent. You had everything in this situation. But Kochkarov missed it unfortunately.

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  36. Wrong handball cal on Diaz, but if he calls it 2YC....

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  37. Well, did he give the YC for Acosta (107') or not? FIFA says yes, but for me it looked like he took it out, noted it, but did not show it.
    Brilliant YC for Huntelaar (111') now. Reckless ellbow vs the keeper

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    1. 107':it seems as he changed idea, no card was shown... or perhaps he forgot to do that... I really don't know
      I agree on the YC to Huntelaar...

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    2. Howard, FIFA said YES, but now it says NO.

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    3. I think he forgot to do so. Because he wrote the number of the player. It hapens (on youth leages).

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  38. And now the YC for Acosta disappeared.

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  39. For me: Krul has to be booked during the penalty shootout. Unacceptable behavior IMHO.
    But overall a good performance, especially by the ARs.

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    1. Borderline behavior, I was going to write the same, but rewatching the entire PSO procedure, I must admit he didn't influence that much the takers.
      Irmatov was there, ready to stop him in case of blatant actions.
      About the match: I never saw both ARs so challenged in a match, they will surely get a high mark, one can't question about 2 or 3 mistakes, with 15 or 20 calls. They also cooperated with Irmatov.

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  40. Irmatov kept a good level of control. But his technical management was quite dubious here and there, specially in terms of card management. Concentration became the weaker the closer the match end came. Overall impression ok though.

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    1. For me, better performance than Rizzoli. Of course some issues with cards and concentration, but this was a much more demanding match.
      8.3/8.6/8.8 for me

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    2. Absolutely. Definitely better than his previous matches as well. Does this make him a possibility for another match though?

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    3. Kochkarov faced 7 or 8 offside decisions and made 2 mistakes. Really very good performance. But it cannot be on 8.8 level.

      Two other things that bothered me: No 2nd YC after SPA on Robben close to AR2 (maybe acceptable given the competition's line), later on no 2nd YC for a (wrong) free kick after deliberate handball blocking a shot on goal. If Irmatov whistles it, what he did, he must send the CRC player off. Maybe Chefren has the minutes of the incident. I don't see the need to compare to distinct referees, their performances in two completely different matches.

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    4. 8 offside decisions and 2 mistakes: you are right Niclas.
      Can't be 8.8 but surely 8.6.
      Mis second second YC for a foul on Robben (SPA): 90+1'
      About the wrong handball whistled: it should be in 102'.

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  41. And now the YC for Acosta is once again there.
    Would have been interesting to see him booked again. Instead of 3 YC for a sending off (Poll), it would have been 1 YC and a sending off.

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  42. I was impressed by Irmatov's performance today. I did not expect him to officiate like this. (couple small mistakes) I even start to think that he could be a candidate for the Final. Good job!

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  43. By the way, Carballo was tracked down by media and fans at the Fortaleza airport: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/05/brazil-colombia-world-cup-referee

    I am concerned by this. On the one hand, he reaction is very good and professional (he's better with journalists than players!). On the other hand, no referee (ever) deserves to be harassed and followed around by media. Let's hope there is no follow-up and he can return to Spain without further incident.

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    1. He'll probably talk about it once he returns home from Brazil. Would be very interesting to hear his version..

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    2. My prediction for semi final games:
      Brazil vs Germany
      Kujpiers
      Argentina vs Netherlands
      Geiger
      Third place game
      Gassama
      Final
      Cakir

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    3. Difficult Kuipers IMHO..
      My new predictions:
      SF1 BRA-GER: Webb
      SF2 NED-ARG: Cakir
      F1: Irmatov

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    4. However I think Busacca is in a big trouble.
      BRA-GER: Brazil didn't like Cakir in BRA-MEX and Webb in BRA-CHI (but there were good IMHO). So, who will he send? A CONCACAF referee couldn't be so experienced. Irmatov probably should have some days to rest and BRA-GER is Tuesday. Rizzoli?
      NED-ARG: Nederlands didn't like Webb (because of NED-ESP of 2010). Argentina doesn't like Irmatov. So Cakir?
      Final referee: Webb is really difficult. If they would appoint Cakir, they need another name for NED-ARG. Proenca? But he seems tired and he had refereed NED in R16, his last name. Argentina doesn't like Irmatov, so if Busacca choose Cakir for 1/2, who will he appoint then? Ricci for Argentina is impossible. Geiger is probably out because he doesn't embody protections against dangerous play (Matuidi-Onazi). So, big problem.
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  44. When and where are the semifinal appointments announced?

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    1. Today (I guess in the late evening, CET) FIFA should reveal the referee for BRA-GER.
      Tomorrow, the name for ARG-NED.

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  45. According to fifa.com
    http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/40/06/27/eng_59_0705_ned-crc_fulltime.pdf
    Acosta was regularly booked at 107', so Irmatov forgot to show the card. Nevertheless, the player understood that he was going to be booked because he looked at Irmavot while he was writing having the card in his hand.

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  46. I don't understand all of you?
    In the Netherland-Costa Rica the referee allowed the GK to intimidate, insult and demean the kicker in the Kicks from the Mark at the end of the OT period.
    How could he allowed this? He just sent A MESSAGE world wide THAT THIS IS ACCEPATBLE BEHAVIOUR!!! At a MOST pivotable time of the game, the result was in the balance. This isn't a 26min missed off side , where the opponents have 84 minutes left to compensate. NO NO this is the crucial game on the line time.
    The referee has allowed the GK to effect the result of the game by UNSPORTING BEHAVIOUR. which isn't acceptable during the game ... BUT now its ok ... at the most crucial moment.

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    1. It is not intimidation. Players talk to each other all the time on the field and they should be, frankly, professionals. They should not be distracted by such nonsense "I know where you're shooting" stuff. I've seen Neuer do jumping jacks, swiftly raise an arm during the kicker's run, etc. all to distract him.

      I would have liked Irmatov to be more assertive re. time wasting (the goalie taking long walks before kicks) but I don't have a problem with the talking. You can see that Irmatov remains close and hears what is said; I have no doubt he would have intervened if any of it was intimidation. Again, players talk all the time on the field, and they do not always say nice things.

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  47. Emil
    Its not the same as GK waving his arms 12 yards away.
    This is face to face provocation. If this is allow to continue. It will not be long before these Kicks from the Mark become the most frequent occasion for players being sent off.
    Is the kicker also allow to leave the penalty spot and walk over to the GK on his line and get face to face and whisper" your mother is a XXXX"
    Emil you know this will happen, often.
    Not like on the field during play.
    Kicks from the Mark, are high profile moments when EVERYONE is watching
    Now that millions of players, coaches and GK have seen this worldwide it will be chaos.

    I will bet that FIFA and USSOCCER will issue memorandums on this very subject.

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    1. I was very annoyed and thought the same at first and then I remembered an interview with Maradona where he was telling the keepers not to bother and even betting with them in WC '90. Irmatov was close enough to hear if it was just mind games or calling somebody's mum a "#%$^". Personally I would not let it happen at one of my games in lower divisions or youth, it would be hard to prevent it from escalating. But these guys are professionals, they should be able to handle that. BTW, I didn't see any complaints from Tico players about this, maybe I missed it.

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  48. Thanks
    You are perceptive
    In youth and even semi pro things can quickly escalate
    Still kicks from the mark are so crucial that I wouldn't want GK and kicker getting face to face saying or touching
    John

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    1. Irmatov was right there. If any personal insults had been dealt (along the lines of what you suggest above), he would have acted.

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