March 9, 2015

Champions League 2014/15 - Round of 16 - Referee Appointments (Week 3, Matchday 2)

Dutch Björn Kuipers and Scottish William Collum are the referees appointed by UEFA for Wednesday's return legs of UEFA Champions League Round of 16. Kuipers will oversee the second tie between Chelsea and Paris SG at Stamford Bridge, while Collum will be in the middle at Allianz Arena in München.



Wednesday, 11/03/2015, 20:45 CET
Stamford Bridge, London (England)
Chelsea FC - Paris SG [1-1]
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Richard Liesveld (NED)
Fourth Official: Angelo Boonman (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Horst Brummeier (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Nebojša Ivković (SRB)
Blog Referee Observer: Howard M. (GER)

Wednesday, 11/03/2015, 20:45 CET
Allianz Arena, München (Germany)
FC Bayern München - Shakhtar Donetsk [0:0]
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Damien MacGraith (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Graham Chambers (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Robert Madden (SCO)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Fourth Official: Alastair Mather (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)*
UEFA Delegate: Michel Pralong (SUI) 
Blog Referee Observer: Maxi R. (GER)

* replacing Roberto Rosetti (ITA)

147 Comments:

  1. Well Collum surely has an interesting match after the 1st leg result.

    Kuipers was expected. A safe pair of hands.

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  2. Anonymous9/3/15 11:21

    Collum and Thompson are not two goods referees.

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  3. A sad news: Luca Colosimo, a 30 y. o. referee from Italian third division (Lega Pro) died following a car accident last night, he was returning back home after a match (SPAL - Prato), he was driving alone. It was 03:00 am, very likely he had a fatal falling asleep while driving. Lega PRO is the committee chaired by Roberto Rosetti, furthermore this referee was from Turin, like Rosetti, too.
    For this reason, I think that Rosetti wont be in Munchen as observer, indeed it seems as UEFA has already removed his name.
    It is a real tragedy because here many referee try to combine work and refereeing, making such efforts, very likely he had to come back home early this morning and he couldn't wait for a night in hotel... I have no words...

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    1. A real tragedy.

      My condolences to his family.

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    2. It's really a huge sad new! Me too many yeras ago tried to combine at the same time job, refereeing and family, so I decided to stop refereeing since I was no more able to manage all these at the same time.
      National Federation must support referees providing them at least travel by a taxi or a shuttle.

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  4. Anonymous9/3/15 21:20

    Oliver missed a penalty kick in favor of Arsenal in tonight's match Manchester United - Arsenal. Holding started outside and just ended inside the penalty area. Lucky Manchester!

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  5. Anonymous9/3/15 22:17

    English referee.. Oliver.. Obvious red card not given for Rojo for a dangerous tackle from behind with excessive force and close after this no 2nd yellow card for Bellerin for denying a promising attack.. poor referee.

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  6. Anonymous9/3/15 22:30

    Yes and now he has send off Di Maria because he pulled the referees shirt after receiving a silly yellow card for simulation which was a clearly foul (small holding). How can you destroy a great football match like this.

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  7. Funny enough, the comments on ratetheref about Oliver's performance read completely different...

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  8. Did any of you actually watch the game? Oliver was absolutely brilliant.

    Sometimes I feel as though some on this blog bash Oliver for the sake of it.

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    1. Anonymous9/3/15 22:56

      Brilliant? I must be blind.

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    2. Yes Nur, albeit with poor video quality. I am going to re-watch the situations again tomorrow and update my impressions then.

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    3. It seems so...

      - penalty for Welbeck? Not for me... Forward went down too easily for me.
      - Rojo's challenge deserved a yellow, not red. Which he duly received.
      - Great decision to send off Di Maria.
      - Excellent Spot for Januzaj's dive.

      Cool, calm and confident display from Oliver tonight. Really don't understand the negativity.

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    4. Cheers, Niclas

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    5. Anonymous9/3/15 23:38

      Oliver was excellent tonight. And very consistent about the faultline, well done!

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    6. Indeed, Wellbeck falls wth great artistry and style. No penalty.

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  9. Anonymous9/3/15 23:55

    Nur your comment is poor. You only speak about the called correct decisions. You say Welbeck went down too easily.. so no penalty and no card. Di Maria went down too easily too (in your opinion), but for this he received a yellow card? How Inconsistent this is? The 2nd yellow card for Di Maria is correct, not smart after he tugged Olivers shirt. But this shouldn't happen if he just awarded the FK. Rojo's challenge was excessive and should have been a sending off. Bellerin was lucky not seeing a 2nd yellow for his foul. And later on their was a clear handbal just outside the box and a FK awarded for Man United. But the defender should receive a yellow card for this handball (promosing attack) and Oliver didn't. So how satisfied can you be with Olivers performance?

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    2. I agree Monreal should have been booked, and now that I think of it, Bellerin was fortunate to escape a second caution. BUT, apart from that, he was fine IMHO.

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  10. Anonymous10/3/15 01:06

    https://vimeo.com/121733641

    It's a penalty if you ask me. The defender lost the battle for position and instinctively pulled the attacker down.

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  11. Nur, I completely agree with you. Oliver was nearly perfect in a very difficult match.
    The Welbeck penalty appeal was debatable, but it was very hard to see in any case, and Welbeck went down easily.
    Everything else was excellent. Again the Bellerin foul was questionable, but I can accept no (2nd) YC. But regardless, it is not enough to call it an error.

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    1. Above all it was perfect to send di Maria off. I also agree with the general dive call. There was a light contact before, but nonetheless he clearly tried to deceive the referee. Wellbeck went down easily, I agree with Nur and Hugh, it is no clear penalty for me. Nonetheless, Rojo's challenge can hardly be considered as reckless. High intensity, excessive force from behind with little chances to play the ball. Rather serious foul play.

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  12. Does anyone know the referees for the Algarve, Cyprus & Istra Cups?

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    1. 2015 Algarve Cup:
      http://www.fpf.pt/Not%C3%ADcias/Not%C3%ADcia/Id/8003/Cat/693/caller/97/Arbitras-da-Algarve-Cup-2015

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    2. For appointments, see here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Algarve_Cup

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  13. Anonymous11/3/15 20:55

    Thought it was a foul. Yellow would have been a better choice for Collum IMO.

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  14. Difficult penalty situation for Collum in 3'? YC for spa or RC for DOGSO. For certain difficult to assess.

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  15. Anonymous11/3/15 21:18

    Scandalous red given to Ibrahimovic by Kuipers.

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  16. Anonymous11/3/15 21:18

    Hasty red card by Kuipers...

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 21:20

      Barely a yellow unfortunately, no studs, no straight leg, nothing really.

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  17. Anonymous11/3/15 21:21

    I've said it once, and I'll say it again.. I don't like Björn Kuipers, I believe he's an overrated referee and this was a really vital, and bad call on his part. Might have ruined the game.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 22:03

      100 % agree

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  18. Anonymous11/3/15 21:21

    RC could be given...

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 21:22

      How could something that was a 50/50 yellow be a red?

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  19. Anonymous11/3/15 21:21

    Absolutly wrong red card from Kuipers.
    Now he has big problem to controll the game.

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  20. Anonymous11/3/15 21:22

    Red is harsh for PSG. Thought the Referee was influenced too much by the players. Kuipers appears to walking on thin ice in London

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  21. I believe it looked very bad from place where Kuipers stand, but on replay it doesn't look like a red to me. I understand his call, at the first sight it was much worse then it actually was.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 21:28

      I agree with this assessment. my first intuition was red, but seeing it in replay it's harsh.

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    2. Anonymous11/3/15 21:36

      Of course it must have looked bad when he gives the RC. Maybe should have take a second and consulted his assistants.

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  22. No red card, never. Kuipers destroyed the match.

    I'am Portuguese...

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  23. Anonymous11/3/15 21:27

    And some of you said Skomina was bad yesterday...

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  24. Anonymous11/3/15 21:27

    I think that Kuipers was influenced by players prior to decide and I also think that Oscar used the bad reputation of Ibrahimovic in order to get this red card. It is a mistake influencing the game and now control is difficult to keep.

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  25. Anonymous11/3/15 21:28

    I mean, no matter how much makeup on SFP that Zlatan Ibrahimovic pulled the leg, there was no intention to hurt the opponent and that the call could only be YC, IMO. Kuipers was safe (just took out RC), but when I look carefully snapshot, IMO, this decision changes everything! I think that Kuipers himself introduced into trouble, although this is an unpopular and "brave" decision, but I think it isn't 100% pure and correct.

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  26. Anonymous11/3/15 21:29

    Penalty missed for Chelsea, foul by Cavani on Diego Costa.

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  27. Anonymous11/3/15 21:29

    Extremely clear penalty for Chelsea missed by Kuipers.

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  28. Anonymous11/3/15 21:30

    Good no-penalty decision by Kuipers, good recovery

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 21:34

      This was clear foulplay (contact at the left leg) and penalty

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    2. Anonymous11/3/15 21:34

      Agreed, it was a touch, but you can see how the hands go up into the air when he falls that it's a dive.

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  29. The scene with Ibrahimovic looked really bad at first glance. We have the luxury of a replay but the referee doesn't. For the reason I think the referee could be backed.

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    1. He made a mistake... Wrong decision... Crucial mistake... And it seems there were two... Penalty kick including... I hope he will be better in second half.

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  30. Anonymous11/3/15 21:32

    Kuipers very bad. Clear red card not given to Liuz and missed clear penalty in min.43. He killed the match. And also wrong red card given to Ibrahimovic

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  31. Anonymous11/3/15 21:32

    Great call with the penalty decision; he was looking for contact and he put his own foot into the legs of the defender.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 21:38

      I think you saw another match. Clear Foul from Paris-Player.

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  32. Anonymous11/3/15 21:34

    Collum missed red card for deliberate elbow.

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  33. Anonymous11/3/15 21:37

    Collum, one friend of Dallas.

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  34. The worst thing is Kuipers have ruined the match and the possibilities of PSG to reach QUarter finals. That is in my opinion the worst thing for football and refereeing. Referees should be very careful with sendings off. This point can explain the ultraleniency style we saw at last world cup, althougth I think it was a very wrong approach, even more harmful for football and refereeing

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  35. Anonymous11/3/15 21:44

    dear friends in my opinion
    CHE vs PSG
    Kuipers before 30 min he was excellent but always smile, 32 min crusical mistake it was more reckless then serios of play , and he miss penalty, for as easy to say something about this game because we saw replay but for elite referee must be not difficult. If you elite.

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  36. Anonymous11/3/15 21:44

    Wasn't the control lost after the sending off? Or is that just my impression?

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  37. Anonymous11/3/15 21:45

    Speed ​​and drop Oscar are mistaken Kuipers. There wasn't an open challenge foot, Zlatan is the time pulled leg and I am sure that isn't the SFP. Kuipers was badly placed in that moment. I think it was a penalty-kick for Chelsea (Edison Cavani late subject to wear and it's clear). Also, Kuipers loses control of the game. I am not a supporter of "anonymous mistake" but I think tonight Dutch referee blew this big match.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 22:01

      Definitely Kuipers positioning and body language clearly indicates that he was aware that he was wrong.

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  38. Anonymous11/3/15 21:46

    How can anyone say that this was not a penalty?

    http://abload.de/img/untitled-6ahyeo.gif

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 21:49

      Look at the left leg of Costa; a not natural move.. he search contact with the leg of Cavani. Compare it with the decision of Kassai a couple years ago in Spain - France.

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    2. Anonymous11/3/15 21:49

      penalty 100 %

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  39. Anonymous11/3/15 21:47

    Kuipiers 7.0
    His Champions must finish this night.

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  40. Anonymous11/3/15 21:47

    Don't you think Kuipers missed to whistle penalty kick in 12-13min for PSG? Not sure what minute was. For me there was a contact, careless attack?

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  41. Anonymous11/3/15 21:48

    After Kuipers first half (wrong red card, not given red to Luiz -using excessive force, missed penalty for Chealse).
    3 times minus 0,5 (Uefa-rules) 6,9.

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  42. Anonymous11/3/15 21:50

    7.4 for Kuipers.

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    1. 6,2 for Kuipers and not more.

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    2. Anonymous13/3/15 16:38

      7,3 for kuipers is the best mark.

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  43. Although it seemed to me that Kuipers had good angle of the scene I was quite sure that red card was right decision. But after watching replays it`s more yellow or even nothing. I just hope that he would be able to control the match in the 2nd half.

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    1. What I will say about Kuipers is that he is at least very consistent, usually leaning towards harsh card judgement (the Markovic red being another example).

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  44. Anonymous11/3/15 22:17

    That tackle from Costa was more of a RC.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 22:19

      And Luiz YC, but not Terry.

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      Kuipers has lost the game.

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  45. Anonymous11/3/15 22:18

    Costa lucky to still be on the pitch, that was much worse than Ibrahimovic's tackle.

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  46. Anonymous11/3/15 22:21

    This is one of the worst referee performances for a long time!

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 22:22

      I must agree. Can't remember a game with so many mistakes at this level.

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    2. Ludogorets-Real, Barca-City, Malmö-Juve.... the list is long since PLC is in office.

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  47. Anonymous11/3/15 22:22

    A classic example for all referees in order not to be refereed. Lack of feeling, bad management, poor preparation matches, many confrontations, and all because of the crucial mistakes. Any decision Kuipers to comment, accompanied by gestures players both teams. Where's experience, personality?

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  48. Anonymous11/3/15 22:23

    Diego Costa foul was by far more RC than Ibrahimovic.

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  49. Anonymous11/3/15 22:25

    Everybody has a bad match sometimes, we must be careful not to nail him on this performance

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    1. Fully agree... Best comment

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    2. Anonymous11/3/15 22:33

      Fully agree. And for me a lot of the above commrnts are exaggerated. Yes there were wrong calls, but I really wouldnt say Kuipers lost control.

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    3. Anonymous11/3/15 22:47

      Wrong calls? More than wrong calls.
      Wrong red, not given red, not given penalty. No controll, no personality.
      No management. Kuipers can only normal or easy Matches (like CL-Final) but if matches are very difficult, you can see tonight.

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    4. Anonymous11/3/15 22:51

      Dude are you serious? Only normal matches? He has shown last years he is one of the best referees in the world. Liverpool - Basel, Atletico-Real, Brazil - Spain, Dortmund - Real; 4 matches in which he had a great form.

      Today he is awful; no control and at least three crucial mistakes. End of season for him.

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    5. Anonymous12/3/15 08:23

      I think that Björn Kuipers is a great referee with a great presence on the pitch. He has shown that in the past, and he hopefully will do that in the future too.

      I think we all agree that he wasn't at his best last night, and made some serious errors, but all referees have a bad match now and then.

      Given the high profile match, and the mistakes made by Kuipers, I doubt that we will see him again in the Champions League / Europa League this season.

      But I hope that he will be back in his normal good form in the next season. I am sure that he is very upset himself when he analyzes the match afterwards, but there is nothing more to do than to learn and move on for him. Hopefully he will be able to do that (in fact, I am convinced that this is exactly what he will do).

      /Swedish observer

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  50. Anonymous11/3/15 22:33

    Kuipers management wont last for the whole extra time. I'm worried.

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  51. Anonymous11/3/15 22:35

    See Diego Costa pushing the opponent. This is YC. Another missed sending off: Diego Costa.

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  52. Anonymous11/3/15 22:38

    Costa should've been sent off like three times already.

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  53. Spanish tv has shown penalty given by Collum. Wrong red card, in my opinion. He took some moments to show the card and it seems he was influenced by Bayern players. No DOGSO and Colum left Shaktar with ten players almost the whole match. I don,t think Uefa is happy with this decission. The final score says everything

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 23:04

      Also missed red card to Douglas Costa and some mass confrontations of players in at first half quite similar to previous match. Collum can feel lucky because the quick sending off and the result turned very much easier the match for Scottish sextet

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    2. The decision was perfectly right. ZDF (German TV) showed a replay with magnifier in half-time and proofed that there was a contact caused by the defender's left upper leg on the attacker's foot. Furthermore, he was about to shoot on the goal. Clear DOGSO + penalty.

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    3. I don,t have doubts about the penalty. It is quite clear but it is very controversial considering this situation a clear DOGSO: some ucranian players were around Bayern player and he was nearer to the corner of the box. Difficult decission in any case!

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  54. Anonymous11/3/15 22:52

    yellow cards seem to better suited with the red colour, at least more than with the blue colour.

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  55. You just cannot turn your back on the game like that.

    Diego Costa is a serial offender, beggars belief how he keeps getting away with it.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 22:58

      He plays with a 'big' money/media team.

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  56. Anonymous11/3/15 23:11

    Hate to say it but unfortunately in both games the Referees have had big influences in the Outcome. In Bayern-Donezk, Donezk gets a Red card in 3rd minute, which in my opinion is not a clear Red. Of course the game was decided after that. Well in Chelsea-Paris game, lets just say it is not Kuipers day. Many bad decisions others have already mentioned. His appareance is not so well too, he look somehow confused. For example in Paris second goal he just stands there instead of showing to the center.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 23:12

      About the last sentence, for this reason, I thought that the goal had been annulled! Why no reaction from Kuipers?

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    2. Anonymous11/3/15 23:31

      No direct reaction on PSG first goal either.

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    3. It could be that they discussed whether there was an obstruction of the goalie's line of sight within the trio AR2, AAR2, ref.

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  57. IMO, with all sympathy and empathy for Kuipers, this performance has been unacceptable both in the literal sense and in the sense of UEFA's marking system. You can discuss about several situations but the RC, Diego Costa's missed VC + unsporting behaviour (pushing) and a possibly missed penalty + low acceptance + low control make it below 7. I hope he can quickly learn from this evening and return to his usual shape. BTW To mention one positive highlight: correct NO offside prior to the PSG 2:2 (good co-operation, no obstruction of the line of sight).
    Nonetheless you should keep in mind the principle of fairness with referees in your comments.

    Collum with a correct (replays proof it) penalty + RC, but he missed another RC for violent conduct later in the 1st half. 7.9.

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 23:19

      Agreed! But what about the 2:1 penalty?

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    2. Of course, also that was positive (but expected).

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    3. Anonymous11/3/15 23:27

      Fairness is to wistle the same way for the same situations on both sides. That was clearly not the case tonight in several situations, and this is based on facts.

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    4. Yes these are facts. But deducting, based on these facts, doubts about Kuipers' impartiality, is an interpretation of these facts and here more than one opinion should be allowed...

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    5. Anonymous11/3/15 23:57

      Let's say in a better way. Kuipers' performance today was impartial and unfair. I don't care about the reasons behind that. This may be of interest to him in order to improve/correct his mistakes.

      It is like professional fault; when you repeat it too much or when it is really serious, you just get fired!

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    6. Anonymous12/3/15 12:54

      Well, at least Kuipers had some courage. After so much controverse in the first half with the red card (which I think was not correct, it was reckless, but not excessive), the missed red card for Diego Costa (which was quite clear, crucial mistake to Kuipers, AR1 and maybe AAR1) and the not given penalty to PSG (correct in my opinion), he gave in the extra time a crucial penalty, which was correct and quite brave in my opinion. Good to see for me, was that he stayed calm at that moment, and that he was accepted by the players at that moment. Kuipers stayed firm and calm, at least at that moment. I have not seen the whole match, but this are the moments I have seen. Based on that (two crucial mistakes, a crucial decision right, calm and firm behaviour most of the times) I would say that he should get a 7.4.
      That would make 7.4 / 7.9 / 8.5 / 7.9 / 8.4 / 8.4 to me. Another referee that Kuipers could have done it way worse, even though it was not a good performance offcourse.

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  58. Anonymous11/3/15 23:19

    he did not seem to like it :-)

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  59. Anonymous11/3/15 23:27

    Well, I guess a lot of work to do for Brummeier and Howard :)

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    1. Anonymous11/3/15 23:46

      Can't wait for this report and the mark assigned.

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  60. There is another missed card for violent conduct against Lewandoski (elbow used as a weapon) at the end of second half. Collum didn,t give even a foul.

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  61. Anonymous11/3/15 23:29

    If Undiano got 7,4 I expect Kuipers to get 6,9 (?)

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    1. Anonymous12/3/15 00:31

      Well Proenca got a 6.9 for the Malmo - Juventus game in November and I think today was worse then that game. I think there is a higher standard held for Kuipers that other referees on the elite level. I'm scared to know what would have happened if another elite referee was in there (with a couple of exceptions). Tough night for the guy but hopefully he bounces back quickly.

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  62. Anonymous11/3/15 23:31

    Players are allowed mistakes, namely, referees mistakes isn't forgivable, unfortunately. The better team in both matches has passed away and it is only good. I agree that Kuipers had their evening. But, this is the worst of any refereeing in the season 2014/15 in the UCL. Kuipers not favor any team, he is simply wrong after RC Ibrahimovic fell mentally, mistakes were chalked one after another. We have criticized Undiano Mallenco, Damir Skomina, there were different opinions. Tonight should be single- extremely poor control and management of the game, many, many confrontation, several crucial mistakes, no calmness. His body language and "lost" persons- all phrase is clear. This is a classic example of a disappointing refereeing. My mark is 7.1 and it is "high", we've been hard on some of the previous season!

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  63. Read my take on this at my new refereeing blog. http://worldsoccerrefereeing.blogspot.com/2015/03/champions-league-matchday-2-chelsea.html

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  64. Anonymous11/3/15 23:56

    Am I the only thinking that the handball was not 100% clear? Of course considering the movement and the position of the arm a small touch is enough to while a penalty, and very likely it happens, but not that blatant.

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    1. You are not the only one.

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  65. Anonymous11/3/15 23:57

    Don't like the standard of many comments on this blog last time. It's more bashing than real analysis. I think that it is THE place where we may expect far higher standard of the comments. Maybe a decision to allow only registered users to post comments would be better.

    Now about Kuipers. I think many of you overreact. Kuipers was not the best but was not so awful either. Ibrahimovic' card is an understandable call taking into account the referee's position and dynamic of the clash. Of course, AR1 could have helped him, but Kuipers chose to show a very confident, sovereign attitude what was also an understandable choice regarding so many protesting Chelsea players. Much better way to solve it would be to stop over and issue a card for dissent at first, take a help from assistant and fourth official and then issue a card to Ibrahimovic. Wolfgang Stark would have done it this way, I'm sure. Of course, a yellow card would be far more in place.

    Did Kuipers lost a control over the game? I don't think so. It was impossible to see a players' calm behaviour after not only this incident but also a conflict between David Luiz and Diego Costa (unfortunately we have no replays of it). He tried to be still composed and even friendly. It required a huge dose of experience and quality Kuipers undoubtedly has.

    What was the biggest problem? In my opinion, it was a lack of clear line from the beginning of the game. Many overlooked or deliberately allowed pushes in the first minutes plus above-mentioned Luiz-Costa clash was an 'igniter'. Then the Ibrahimovic' foul only reinforced the nervous atmosphere.

    What is the biggest problem is a lack of the clear line/consistency and lack of alert regarding Diego Costa. He should be off at least twice - missed second yellow card for UB or straight red for SFP or straight red for VC in the 73rd minute and missed second yellow card for UB in the 90+3rd minute. Definitely lack of alert not only from Kuipers but also (additional) assistants...

    I have strong doubts regarding penalty appeal from Chelsea in the 43rd minute. Of course, it easily could have been a penalty kick for careless challenge, but Costa's fall... Big doubts also counts for another two penalty appeals in the 14th and 99th minute of the game...

    Having said that, I would go with 7,4-7,7 mark to Kuipers. Poor additional assistants.

    HD

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    1. Hi HD (and others),

      I also have the feeling that people are being too harsh on Kuipers' performance. Sure, it was not good yesterday, but it also wasn't as bad as some suggest.

      For Ibrahimovic, I must admit that my first impression also was a red card. The replays later show that it was yellow at max, but from the pace of the game (and the overly reacting CHE player) it indeed seemed like red. The YC for Costa in the 2nd half is not defendable at all, I really don't understand why Kuipers evaluates this as YC and Ibrahimovic' tackle as RC.

      I agree with HD that Kuipers did not lose control over the game. During the whole match he appeared firm, no hesitation in his decisions. Also he tried to intervene in the small 'riots' on the pitch without using cards all the time (his usual style I think). I can imagine that other referees would have lost control of this match.

      The penalty appeal from Chelsea at the end of the first half was not a penalty to me. OK, there was a touch but it seemed as if Costa was really seeking the contact. Moreover, it was quite a light touch. For the penalty in extra time, I have my doubts. In one replay angle, Silva seems to touch the ball but in another not. The arm however is surely in a non-natural position. Silva also is not really protesting Kuipers for his decision, which may indicate that Kuipers was correct.

      I can fully agree with the 7.4-7.7 mark as suggested by HD above.

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    2. And maybe one thing to add.

      Rumours go that Kuipers' status has lowered within the Dutch FA (KNVB), because he plays a key role in negotiations about new contracts for referees. KNVB and BSBV ('representative organisation' for referees) are planning to give referees temporary contracts instead of permanent ones and Kuipers is strongly against this, as well as many of his colleagues. He is however a 'frontrunner' on this matter and therefore very visible. Rumours go that the KNVB is not giving the most important matches to Kuipers anymore because of all this. KNVB denies, Kuipers does not want to react.

      I hope that this did not influence his performance yesterday (if true at all), but it may have played a small role in his alertness and concentration. I'm afraid we won't see Kuipers again in CL this season (maybe EL if he is lucky).

      (see for instance http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1016/Nederlands-voetbal/article/detail/3896369/2015/03/11/Bjorn-Kuipers-op-zijspoor-gezet-door-de-KNVB.dhtml)

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    3. Diego Costa should have gone twice, absolutely. Once Kuipers took a too hasty YC decision (in case of the headbutt close to AR1 instead of waiting, thinking and then deciding). Later, don't remember the minute, correct no penalty call but then Kuipers turns away and runs towards the midfield line instead of moving backwards and keeping the critical player duo Costa and his opponent in visual control. If he had done so, he would have seen the clear push to be assessed as unsporting behaviour and therefore should have given a 2nd YC. Everybody saw that the red card given was the wrong choice, you don't have to be a referee for that. I can hardly imagine that Brummeier or who ever would observed him can support a clearly wrong (even though understandable!) decision.
      So we have 3 crucial mistakes. The penalty call can maybe be accepted for the reasons stated by other anonymouses. This plus the apparently lack of control (yes, he was still in charge of the game, nonetheless more belongs to control IMO, e.g. keeping the overview), acceptance and grip to game and players in wide parts of the 2nd half can actually only make it in the 6.9/7.0 area.
      Anyway, apart from mathematical marks, this was the first very poor performance I remember from Kuipers for years, everybody can have a bad day. I am however sure that we won't see him again this season, maybe in a EURO qualifier, but not more.

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    4. Anonymous12/3/15 10:44

      I think there were many qualified, fair and balanced comments...

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    5. Anonymous12/3/15 15:46

      @ Hubert,

      Your suggested mark (interval) is not consistent, because 7.4 means:

      poor control, more important points for omprovement + one crucial mistake or
      relatively good performance but two crucial mistakes.

      But interval 7.5 - 7.7 means performance without crucial mistake, "only" poor control with for example more then 3 missed YC, more important points for improvement.

      Otherwise, I absolutely agree with You and some others . Many comments here were deeply bellow standard to which we are accustomed at this page. Skomina, Kuipers... Maybe is better to wait a while and then make comments.

      Regards.
      P.L.

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    6. Anonymous12/3/15 16:40

      True, I meant 7,5-7,7 of course!

      HD

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    7. Anonymous12/3/15 20:24

      How can HD say Costa must be off twice but mark is without crucial mistake? Inconsistent.
      Kuipers had fundamental problems in mentality, stability, keeping the clear head and taking decisions after reflecting/thinking.
      In 43' and for Costa YC his AARs could have helped, but Kuipers was the main responsible, free view and much closer.
      We must protect referees as far as we can do so. But don't justify the unjustifiable.

      I also would like to remind you and ask who you are to condemn comments of others. Yes there were some idiotic "scandalous Kuipers" comments... but most of them were hard, but honest comments in my view. "Fair speaking" is not automatically comments "above" the standard we are accostumed at 3rd team.

      Regards

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    8. Anonymous12/3/15 20:38

      I just think UEFA is not so quick with classifying something as crucial mistake and rather take an overall view of the performance instead of attach importance to single incidents. That's all.

      HD

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    9. Anonymous12/3/15 21:18

      O.K! I just remember times when you was quicker with 7.0-grades than others!
      Regards, ref7

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  66. Anonymous12/3/15 00:20

    You can also add a clear miss yellow card to Matic at second half. Sorry to say that but Kuipers has been a disaster tonight.

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  67. Anonymous12/3/15 11:04

    If you carefully watch, was not penalty for Bayern M. No contact. Big and crucial mistake.

    Roy C.

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    1. Wrong statement. Sorry. The German TV has proven that there was a clear and punishable contact.

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    2. https://vimeo.com/121983492

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  68. BTW It was the fastest red card ever in UEFA CL.

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  69. Anonymous12/3/15 14:34

    Wait, how can people be serious and say that this wasn't a penalty?

    http://abload.de/img/untitled-6ahyeo.gif

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    1. From this replay one can get the impression that Diego Costa caused the contact. But from behind it looked differently.

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  70. Anonymous12/3/15 16:50

    Not a single yellow card to a Chelsea player here?

    https://instagram.com/p/0GwgcrGMNA/

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    1. Anonymous12/3/15 17:11

      As I wrote before. Wolfgang Stark would have solved it in a very, very different way. Much better way. :)

      HD

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    2. Anonymous12/3/15 17:46

      it's not so funny

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  71. Anonymous12/3/15 20:47

    If you consider Undiano Mallenco had a 7.0 in Shaktar-Bayern, I can,t imagine Kuipers can reach even that mark. His performance was very weak in all senses: no match control, players confrontations, dissents, no good foul detection, several crucial mistakes, even not good positioning in some moments. If you see the match with attention you would realize he was pale and overpassed by the match.

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  72. Honestly, I haven,t seen yet any completely satisfactory performance in uefa champions league matches last month. European referees must improve their level

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  73. Anonymous13/3/15 13:42

    To the commenters above: Try doing a better job yourself! A referee in a CL match who does not make a "crucial mistake" within your liberal interpretation of the term has made a performance that is close to being flawless.

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    1. Can you clarify for which match your are talking about?

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  74. Anonymous13/3/15 18:06

    Collum always with his whistle in his mouth... Why on earth are there referees who choose to use a single whistle in their hand at this level, they ALWAYS keep their whistle in their mouth unneccessarily. (Collum, Stark, Kulbakov, Rizzoli, Rocchi, etc) The best by far is to use a wristband or at least a fingergrip

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  75. Anonymous13/3/15 23:22

    I watched the che-psg match again, and I am still unable to see how kuipers may have been there to have a honest and fair refereeing performance. Something should have influenced his mind to have refereed with such a mentality.

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  76. Anonymous14/3/15 09:00

    That must be one of the most ridiculous comments that I have ever seen. I am sure that Kuipers was definitely influenced by something. Even a very good referee can have a bad match now and then. It is not more than that, and to make such a suggestion is really outrageous in my view. Enough said.

    /Swedish observer

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  77. Ditto. Absolute nonsense.

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