August 23, 2015

Champions League 2015/16 - Referee Appointments - Play-Offs 2nd Legs (1)

UEFA has appointed the following match officials to take charge of next Tuesday's play-offs for Champions League 2015/2016. Among others, new Elite Szymon Marciniak from Poland will officiate the return match between Shakhtar Donetsk and Rapid Wien.  



                     Shakhtar
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Rapid Wien
UCL Play-Off, 2nd Leg, 25/08/2015, 20:45 CET – Lviv (UKR)

Match Officials
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referees: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL), Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Additional Assistant Referees: Paweł Raczkowski (POL), Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Fourth Official: Radosław Siejka (POL) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Mike Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Andrian Ixari (MDA)
Referee Liaison Officer:
Blog Referee Observer: Mike (AUT)

                      AS Monaco
-:-
 Valencia CF
UCL Play-Off, 2nd Leg, 25/08/2015, 20:45 CET – Monaco (MON)

Match Officials
Referee: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
Assistant Referees: Elenito Di Liberatore (ITA), Mauro Tonolini (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referees: Luca Banti (ITA), Antonio Damato (ITA) 
Fourth Official: Riccardo Di Fiore (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sergey Zuev (RUS) 
UEFA Delegate: Campbell Ogilvie (SCO)
Referee Liaison Officer:
Blog Referee Observer: Jake (FRO)

Dinamo Zagreb
-:-
 Skënderbeu
UCL Play-Off, 2nd Leg, 25/08/2015, 20:45 CET – Zagreb (CRO)

Match Officials
Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
Assistant Referees: Gianluca Cariolato (ITA), Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referees: Davide Massa (ITA), Carmine Russo (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabiano Preti (ITA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Pierino L. G. Lardi (SUI)
Referee Liaison Officer:
Blog Referee Observer: Niclas (GER)

             Maccabi Tel-Aviv
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 FC Basel
UCL Play-Off, 2nd Leg, 25/08/2015, 20:45 CET – Tel Aviv (ISR)

Match Officials
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referees: Jure Praprotnik (SVN), Robert Vukan (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referees: Matej Jug (SVN), Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Fourth Official: Manuel Vidali (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nikolay Levnikov (RUS) 
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA)
Referee Liaison Officer:
Blog Referee Observer: Maxi R (GER)

Malmö FF
-:-
 Celtic
UCL Play-Off, 2nd Leg, 25/08/2015, 20:45 CET – Malmö (SWE)

Match Officials
Referee: Milorad Mažić (SRB)
Assistant Referees: Milovan Ristić (SRB), Dalibor Djurdjević (SRB)
Additional Assistant Referees: Danilo Grujić  (SRB), Dejan Filipović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Dejan Petrović (SRB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Eugen Strigel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Eggert Magnusson (ISL)
Referee Liaison Officer:
Blog Referee Observer: Chefren (ITA)

130 Comments:

  1. For Wednesday:
    Brugge-United, Velasco
    CSKA-Sporting, Kralovec
    Leverkusen-Lazio, Moen
    Apoel-Astana, Matéu
    Partizan-Bate, Atkinson.

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    1. I would say
      Brugge-United, Mateu
      CSKA-Sporting, Velasco
      Leverkusen-Lazio, Moen
      Apoel-Astana, Kralovec
      Partizan-Bate, Atkinson.

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    2. Anonymous23/8/15 15:58

      To be honest, I absolutely did not expect Atkinson in Belgrad.

      Regards.
      P.L.

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    3. He hasn't been appointed, yet... ;)

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    4. The reason, why I (and maybe Cesar too) "appointed" Atkinson in Belgrad, is the observer. In the four other matches there are commitee members+Jokic, while Allaerts usually observes older referees.
      But I have to admit, that I did not consider the Serbia-Albania match this time.
      Probably I should change him with Velasco.
      Or Atkinson is observed by a commitee member due to the EURO selection...

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    5. Anonymous23/8/15 18:23

      Don't... :)

      P.L.

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    6. Anonymous23/8/15 19:01

      Nur: do you have some problems in posting? :)

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    7. Apologies. I'm using my mobile device, so perhaps that's the problem...But occasionally when I post; this happens. I'll use another browser from now on.

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    8. Anonymous23/8/15 21:01

      No problems.

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    9. Anonymous24/8/15 10:25

      1/5 Not well.

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    10. Anonymous24/8/15 10:40

      Kralovec would be great for apoel since he officiated the Cyprus cup final (ael-apoel) 2 months or so ago, winning 4-2. So the Ref who was invited as a guest for the event would be just perfect

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  2. Anonymous23/8/15 18:08

    My picks:

    Brugge-M. United, Mateu Lahoz

    CSKA-Sporting, Velasco Carballo

    B. Leverkusen-Lazio, Atkinson

    Apoel-Astana, Kralovec

    Partizan-Bate, Moen


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    1. Anonymous23/8/15 18:14

      Hugh Dallas observed only Mateu Lahoz, Sven Moen or Pavel Kralovec... Atkinson, Carballo- no way!

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    2. Anonymous24/8/15 10:24

      1/5 Not good.

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    3. Better than 0/5 right?

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    4. Anonymous26/8/15 02:23

      Anonymous, it's 2/5!!! You missed an excellent opportunity to remain silent!

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  3. Fantastic offside at 22' in Borussia MG - Mainz 05 by Markus Häcker. AR1, Christian Dietz, has a rather poor flag technique, though. Flag in wrong hand, flag not aligned with the arm (bending the wrist), etc.

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    1. Dietz also visibly running in the field at 61'.

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    2. Typical. But I really don't care about technique until there are good decisions behind some technical deficiencies. :)

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    3. Anonymous23/8/15 19:38

      Typical German AR, then, with poor flag and running technique.

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    4. Ref1: I agree, but there are reasons behind technical requirements. You want the ARs to look professional, and that involves some attention to details. And the running in the field could potentially be a problem.

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    5. The idea in DFB is having the flag in the right hand (still visible to the referee) that an offside is about to come or possible.

      But, as often said, I do not understand that either.

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  4. OT

    Today a very interesting situation regarding offside occurred in the Dutch Eredivisie match between Feyenoord and Vitesse. I won't describe it in detail, but underneath you find the video of the particular situation.
    What decision should the referee team make?

    https://vimeo.com/137069845

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    1. Both red-white and yellow-blue should be considered as being on the line. The second last defensive player is GK who is slightly before the line (probably!!!, maybe 2-3 cm). So, if it is offside, it is by 2-3 cm. What if the GK is on the line?

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    2. But isn't the GK on the goalline? In other words, shouldn't his stretched arm - which seems to be above the goalline - be taken into consideration regarding offside?

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    3. What then? There would be two defending players on the goalline. Should one of them be considered as the second-last defender or not?

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    4. In that case it would not be offside, as the LOTG literally state that "a player is not in an offside position if he is level with the last two opponents".
      What I cannot find in the LOTG is whether the arm of a defending player (or a GK in particular) should be taken into consideration regarding offside.
      The only relevant passage I can find in the Interpretations of the LOTG states the following:

      "In the context of Law 11 – Offside, the following definitions apply:
      • “nearer to his opponents’ goal line” means that any part of a player’s head,
      body or feet is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
      second-last opponent. The arms are not included in this definition".

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    5. The background is, for attackers, that all parts of the body with which you can score a goal are relevant for offside.
      So for goalkeepers, if we follow this logic, they are allowed to use their hands to save a ball...so I would say the arms are definitely relevant.

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    6. Anonymous24/8/15 12:06

      The arms are not included in this definition for attacker and also for defender include goalkeeper. That is my opinion.

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    7. Dutch FA says it's not offside because the goalkeeper grabs the pole

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    8. If we include the goalkeeper's arms, then we end up with two offside definitions relating to the goalkeeper; what if he is out of the penalty area?

      I'd still go with offside, although it is a tricky situation.

      Bob v C: Do you have the link?

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    9. Anonymous24/8/15 21:13

      Look at this situation once more. Was there at least minimum time for reaction of AR? PK was given immediately, very probably without his involvement. (But maybe I am wrong and it was quick and genial decision of both officials.) IMO, AR had to be for 150% sure that it was offside in order to reverse referee's decision.

      Emil wrote very exact reason why the Dutch FA statement doesn't sound reliably. Niclas's argument has its logic but only in penalty area. In relation to LotG it is only logical deduction which has not direct support in the Laws.

      Regards.
      P.L.

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    10. @Emil http://www.voetbalcentraal.nl/nieuws/124259/geen-sprake-van-lucky-feyenoord-kongolo-niet-buitenspel-

      Roughly translated: "Feyenoord-defender Kongolo, who deserved a penalty against Vitesse, was not previously in an offside position, according to Dutch FA spokesman Hans van Kestel. There was a player behind the goal line and goalkeeper Eloy Rooy was holding the goalpost with his hand. Therefore, referee Serdar Gozubuyuk's decision was correct."

      https://twitter.com/HvKastel/status/635751223442976768

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    11. Where Dutch FA seems very certain and indeed stated that the correct decision was made by the referee team, UEFA isn't that convinced. According to Telegraaf UEFA will study this particular situation because "multiple points of view can exist regarding the interpretation of the passage regarding the arm of a defender (or GK) in relation to offside".
      So to be continued I guess...

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  5. Velasco is observed by Dallas.

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  6. Anonymous24/8/15 10:23

    Velasco not needs be observed.

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    1. Of course. Probably UEFA is unsure whom they should pick for EURO, Velasco and/or Mateu.

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    2. Probably there will be two Spanish referee teams in EURO 2016! I would like to remark the figures of Yuste Jiménez and Pérez del Palomar. They used to referee almost all weeks with European matches because they share team with two Spanish Elite referees. I don,t think there were many European ARs in this situation. The first one, Yuste Jiménez, I am sure is closed to break all recirds among European ARs. If I am not wrong he took part of EURO 2004 and since the he has been refereeing in all big competitions

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  7. Do you think that Skomina will be at euro in France?

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  8. Anonymous25/8/15 20:55

    Tough start for Mazic.

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    1. Anonymous25/8/15 21:01

      Tough match, you can expect everything in this match, but very good start. He showed who is the boss. But, this is just beginning of the match, its too early.

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  9. Anonymous25/8/15 21:00

    Rizzoli missed a deliberate elbow. For me red card, but if not, at least yellow.

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  10. Elbow used as a weapon missed by Rizzoli and company

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  11. There is too a clear fault at the box before Monaco,s goal

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  12. Anonymous25/8/15 21:26

    Violent conduct missed min 39' by Mazic team

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    1. Anonymous25/8/15 21:29

      43' wrongly disallowed goal. Nothing wrong there. Defender also handled the ball before

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    2. Anonymous25/8/15 21:34

      Oh, come on. First, you really think it is for RC? YC is enough. That would destroy the match. Second, clear foul on goalkeeper. That was whistled.

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    3. Anonymous25/8/15 21:40

      Mazic lobby? Welcome again.

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    4. Anonymous25/8/15 21:41

      Are you serious or watching another match?
      Clear red card and disallowed goal was a clear goal. No foul also in slomotion.

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    5. Anonymous25/8/15 21:46

      The time of Mazic as an Elite is over.
      Also his performance last season was not so good. Same as Kuipers.

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    6. Anonymous25/8/15 21:48

      It is hard to say but I agree Anonymous.

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    7. Anti-Mazic comments are coming..
      3,2,1..

      I dont know why his matches provoke so many passionate comments

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    8. Anonymous25/8/15 21:58

      Mazic lobby? Oh, Colina is reading our posts here for sure. And Dallas, too.Come on, man. You can say what you want, but Mazic is a top class referee! Why are all the players so calm if he made such a big mistakes? We will see what the observer is going to say. Red card - on the edge, but I prefer YC. Remember when he gave RC to Pepe on WC - many people said it wasn't VC, but it was.

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    9. Anonymous25/8/15 22:18

      Mazic is Serbian, and Bebek Croatian, that's why RefRef. That's the whole truth! See Rizzoli tonight, many mistakes, but no passionate comments, no arguing.

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    10. Anonymous25/8/15 22:24

      No passionate comments as there are no passionate Rizzoli fans trying to defend these mistakes, that is all.

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    11. No one defends Mazic here, or anyone else. We just give our opinion. You have yours, I have mine, Mazic has his.

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    12. Video links please?

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    13. Anonymous26/8/15 01:46

      http://fudbalskisudija.blogspot.com/2015/08/interesantan-detalj-u-malmeu.html

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  13. Anonymous25/8/15 21:26

    Griffiths lucky to only see yellow from Mazic, potential violent conduct.

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  14. Clear violent conduct, free line of sight. Wrongly disallowed goal for Celtic, AAR2 suggested a handball by an attacker, it was a handball...by the defender. Mazic should have seen it.

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    1. Anonymous25/8/15 21:36

      I rather think AAR 2 suggested that the attacker intentionally backed into the goalkeeper just before the handball, but I think he got that call wrong.

      /Swedish observer

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    2. Anonymous25/8/15 21:36

      So far: Missed clear red card and a legal goal was annuled. Thats not good enough in a vital match!

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    3. Anonymous25/8/15 21:43

      I disagree. How many referees would give a red card, what do you think? Referee's free assessment. You don't think that was the foul against goalkeeper? For me - clear foul. Tough match, though, that's why Mazic is there. He always get one of the toughest matches.

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    4. @swedishobs.: IMO he made a handball gesture after talking with AAR2.

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    5. Anonymous25/8/15 21:47

      Yes, the red card was clear. When seeing the replay it was also clear that the offence was deliberate as well. Even though Mazic had a clear view I wonder whether he really saw what happened. But with replays it is a clear crucial mistake. The disallowed goal is probably more attributable to AAR2 then Mazic.

      /Swedish observer

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    6. :)
      Of course ramming your knee into your opponent's eggs with force is a YC, sorry.

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    7. I agree, swe.obs., but IMO both had good chances to spot who had handled the ball.

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    8. Anonymous25/8/15 21:55

      opponent's eggs? ;)

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    9. Anonymous25/8/15 22:18

      Looked like he was signaling for penalty first. Strange when it was a goal.

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    10. I have watched the replay of the disallowed goal 10 times now. To me it looks like Mazic first call is penalty. The call comes rather late - a few seconds after the ball is in the net. So probably he thinkts that the Celtic player backing into the Malmö goalkeeper is enough to disallow the goal and that it should be a penalty instead. I can understand this call.

      He is then "corrected" by someone in his team (probably AAR) and gives the free kick.

      Since I'm Swedish I of course remember how the Thierry Henry handball situation against Ireland ended Martin Hanssons elite referee career. Mazic errors will probably not create the same amount of bad press but in terms of bad calls in important matches this is in the same league.

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    11. Anonymous26/8/15 01:47

      http://fudbalskisudija.blogspot.com/2015/08/interesantan-detalj-u-malmeu.html

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    12. Anonymous26/8/15 08:44

      How can you understand that? If he thinks there is a foul on the keeper, why should he whistle a PK for a situation later?

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    13. Well it assumes that the foul on keeper happened after the handball.

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    14. Anonymous26/8/15 10:19

      No. I am sure of. Watch the video. Images are sorted in the order of events. The only logical explanation is fouled on Malmo's goalkeeper.

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    15. You are right. The decision of refs was foul on the goalkeeper in his area, as it should be, IMO. Later referee has shown why the decision was like that: foul during "fight" for the ball, hence his arms in the air... But, it seems that this decision was made by AAR2, not by referee, and it looked like referee really first made some other decision (not conclusive, seemed like PK).

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    16. Also, missed violent conduct, albeit provoked one.

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    17. It looks like Mazic made PK decision first.
      But then he was overruled by his AAR2, maybe because AAR2 saw that attacker plays the ball with arm, not the defender OR he saw the foul on the goalkeeper.

      About VC, only the 4th official can see this.
      'Mazic had free line of sight' ? I dont think so.

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    18. Do you have video for free line of sight?
      Mazic saw the incident from behind, but I don't think that he saw the kick, 4th offcical had better position.

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    19. PS
      The moment of foul on GK and possible penalty kick Mazic whistled are almost in the same time. IMO the foul on Gk came first.

      I dont defend him, it was very challenging situation.

      1 Who played the ball with arm?
      2 Is there foul on GK?
      3 Is foul on GK before or in the same time with handball?

      We don't know what is the reason for disallowing the goal, that's the problem.

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  15. Anonymous25/8/15 21:35

    Again AAR2 involved in wrong handball APOEL Ajax? Should be removed from team Mazic.

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  16. Fussy Rocchi in Dinamo Z - Skenderbeu. Harsh cards (easily you can imagine a referee who could have shown none of them), problems with positioning in the centre circle at counterattacks, one missed malicious foul. Call it 'no-modern or oldschool refereeing'.

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    1. Anonymous25/8/15 21:45

      Simulation foul was a correct decision? I read on uefa.com....

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    2. Correct 2nd YC at least.

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    3. Anonymous, yes, but I would prefer simple play on.

      I will make refereeing highlights from this game. Should be tomorrow.

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  17. Anonymous25/8/15 21:38

    Mazic performance today catastroph, I don't no why. Missed a clear red card in min 39 and the disallowed goal in min 43 was correct. This is not what Collina wants to see from an Elite-Referee. 7,4 after First Half.

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    1. With all that mistakes so big and crucial, the players are too calm, aren't they?

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    2. And that's an argument? That players are calm so he didn't make mistakes?

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    3. Anonymous25/8/15 22:21

      Of course it is not an argument. But I think that not that many players saw the two crucial mistakes when they happened. It all happened quite fast. Probably an explanation, and Mazic has been quite good apart from that. Thus not so many loud protests from players, me thinks.

      /Swedish observer

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    4. It's an observation. I'm not saying refs didn't make mistakes. Chill out...

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  18. Anonymous25/8/15 21:53

    Possible penalty in Monaco. The classic Rizzoli, he doesn't want responsibility. Everything is ok not whistling.

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  19. Rizzoli forgives the second yellow card to Toulalan

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    1. As he gave an indirect free kick he did not notice the contact caused by Toulalan. Maybe a call based on intuition..

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  20. Second goal of Monaco clear offside

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  21. The 2:1 scored by Monaco was offside. The action was quick, nonetheless a mistake by AR1.

    In Malmö's 2:0 I wonder whether AAR2 noticed that the ball had already crossed the goalline, he did not change his movement so probably he missed it.

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    1. AAR2 had shown no clear indication that he detected tha ball had laready vrossed the goalline, so perhaps some luck for refs.

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  22. So there we have 3 crucial mistakes from Rizzoli's team. RC for elbow, foul in the first goal and offside in the second. How does this affect his chances for the EURO considering there are 4 Elite refs from Italy? Of course it's a single match, and fortunately those mistakes have not altered the outcome of the match, but nevertheless are important mistakes.

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    1. Anonymous25/8/15 22:47

      Rizzoli is coward, everybody knows it. He was never great. The only talent he has is his management... and Collina!

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    2. Come on man, what are you saying ? Rizzoli is one of the best referees in the world ! I like his performance tonight

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    3. I'm saying this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hphprrni_Qk

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  23. Donetsk-Rapid25/8/15 22:46

    Unfortunately Team Marciniak was not that good tonight. A very good first half, really bad second half.

    Marciniak himself overall good but with some points for improvement, e.g. in his positioning. He is really far away sometimes. Also an important mistake in his application of the advantage rule (a DOGSO by the ref ;))

    Two really crucial situations:
    - about 80': IMO a missed penalty kick in favor of Rapid - deliberate handball. Mistake especially by AR2, but also by the ref. Maybe also by AAR2.
    - about 88': 2nd YC for Sonnleitner. I cannot understand. In my association it is definitely no YC. Maybe in UEFA? But I don't think so, for me a crucial mistake. I look forward to see a video.

    So on for me 7.2 for Marciniak. Two crucial mistakes, 2x -0,1. At least 7,8.


    AR1 with an offside mistake. -> 8,3
    AR2 with an offside mistake and the missed penalty kick -> 7,9/8,3
    AAR1 with a very wrong goal kick decision -> 8,2
    AAR2 IMO without any fault at the missed penalty kick, so on 8,4
    4OFF also 8,4

    All in all a not convincing Polish referee team after a very good first half. In the second half they showed that they have some problems with more challenging games maybe. Just my opinion.

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  24. Donetsk-Rapid25/8/15 22:48

    After seeing the replay I must correct myself: AAR2 looked exactly to the handball situation, so he should see this missed penalty. AR2 was more focussed on his offside line, so on maybe not a crucial mistake by him.

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  25. Anonymous25/8/15 22:53

    Poor Rizzoli, without motivations it is better to retire.

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  26. What do you think about Marciniak and his team???

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    1. Donetsk-Rapid26/8/15 10:01

      You can read my opinion above. For me two crucial mistakes by Marciniak and some small areas for improvement (e.g. his 'DOGSO' as he whistled a foul instead of an advantage).

      Furthermore all 4 assistant referees had some mistakes. Too much errors in the second half. A not convincing Polish referee team, even if I like Marciniak's style of refereeing.

      For more you should read my post above your's.

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  27. Some links to the videos of the most discussed situations in this evening's CL Play Off matches. As Ref1 promised to come with the highlights of the Dinamo-Skënderbeu match, I will not include those here :-)

    Shakhtar Donetsk - Rapid Wien (Szymon Marciniak)
    1. Advantage
    https://vimeo.com/137307530
    2. Handball in penalty area
    https://vimeo.com/137307529
    3. Second YC Sonnleitner (RAP)
    https://vimeo.com/137307532

    Malmö - Celtic (Milorad Mazic)
    1. Griffiths kneeing opponent
    https://vimeo.com/137307499
    2. Disallowed goal CEL
    https://vimeo.com/137307498

    AS Monaco - Valencia (Nicola Rizzoli)
    1. Use of elbow
    https://vimeo.com/137307500
    2. Offside goal ASM
    https://vimeo.com/137307497

    Now I hope a substantive discussion can be started, without the emotional aspects some of the participants here bring in when it comes to particular referees. To be honest, it's beginning to be a little annoying...

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    1. Do you have Monaco's penalty appeals and their first goal?

      Thanks.

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    2. Follow the link below for Monaco's first goal. Unfortunately I can't provide you with the panelty appeals at this moment.

      https://vimeo.com/137317283

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    3. Anonymous26/8/15 03:13

      http://fudbalskisudija.blogspot.com/2015/08/interesantan-detalj-u-malmeu.html
      Milorad Mažić
      According to these figures, taken from the blog dedicated the football referee from the Serbia, and the analysis I would say that there was a violation of the goalkeeper before playing arm Malmo defender, pushing hands past his hand and elbow and prevention to intervene. The situation is chaotic, and the images can not see. The analysis is good, IMO. Use a translator.
      Greetings from the Montenegro!

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    4. Does not change that Mazic made a "handball" gesture half a minute after the decision taken (not in Dutch Ref's video). So if AAR2 corrected him, it was probably because they mixed up who handled the ball. In this case it would be a crucial mistake and discussing whether the goalkeeper was fouled would be irrelevant.

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    5. On Rizzoli's elbow situation. It is probably between using the arm as a tool and as a weapon. Considering the effect of the hit, there are maybe more arguments for the latter. Missing this action completely is the major problem of course.

      Marciniak: missed handball penalty. Clearly outstretched arm..small distance not really relevant if you move out your hand that widely. Referee and AR2 had an ideal view, referee even more. The advantage missed is poor but here Marciniak and his AR1 can reflect how this can be done better.

      Thanks a lot for those videos!

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    6. Donetsk-Rapid26/8/15 10:10

      Ad Marciniak: I see the handball situation and the referee's 'DOGSO' (missed advantage) as you, no doubt. But what's about the 2nd YC?
      IMO it is careless (not reckless) and so on it is no YC, at least in my association. Because only interfering with the goalkeeper is no YC in my home land, maybe UEFA sees it in an other way?! Niclas, what's your opinion? I see no reason for a caution.

      Marciniak also with some problems in his positioning (faaaaaaar away!).
      AR1 and AR2 with both one offside mistake.
      AAR1 with a very wrong goal kick decision, unpossible to understand such a decision. (-0,2 for me)

      So all in all a performance with some errors. Not so important mistakes (advantage, offside, goal kick) as also 1-2 crucial mistakes.

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    7. Anonymous26/8/15 10:25

      I agree that it is only careless but one point for consideration is, is he stopping a promising attack? From the video I cannot be sure but I bet that he will be supported if he gives that explanation to the observer.

      For me the Rizzoli elbow situation, I would support a yellow card. People cannot only look at that there is blood on the players face. If he missed it completely than there is some issues with the fourth who should see this perfectly.

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    8. Anonymous26/8/15 12:48

      Andre Villas Boas?

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    9. Anonymous26/8/15 13:15

      Was it that obvious?
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  28. Anonymous26/8/15 10:45

    Malmö-Celtic:

    1. VC -
    Mazic does not have a clear sight, he is still turning around (from talking to the attacker) when the kick occurs. You can see this pausing one replay. Only the 4th official can see this. So clearly the 7.9 is issued only to the 4th by UEFA and should be done by TTT also. But before that here is no violation against the keeper 2 times, but the keeper overplays the first and the referees take the GK push on the attacker as a foul against him.

    2. Disallowed goal -
    The biggest mistake is not staying focused, loosing the cool and not waiting for the goal to be scored (the same as Turpin in his Madrid game). When you look at the original video then he gives a small whistle before the goal, then realizes that he cannot allow the goal, then gives a whistle & signal for a penalty. In this total confusion he then gets the last confusing part - the AAR has seen that it was the attacker who handled the ball. And as Mazic´s mind is totally messed up, then he does not trust himself anymore. But he clearly had seen the defender handling as he whistled immediately for a penalty.
    If they would have disallowed the goal for an infringement on the GK then this should be supported. But should the observer now mark it as a 7.9 or -0,1, that i am not sure of.


    Monaco - Valencia

    The elbow is clearly reckless, this is never considered as deliberate. AR1 should have the best view for it, but he must have been unfocused. As it could have been seen also by the referee (and maybe the 4th) then they get -0,1.


    Shaktar - Rapid

    The penalty is a mistake of concentration. In all such situations where a cross is going to be played into the area from that sides the assistant has to be focused on offside+handball. If you focus only on offside then you miss most of the handballs as you are unsure what happened (not seeing + not recognizing if it was deliberate). But it is surely also the responsibility of the referee.

    Ed

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    1. Anonymous26/8/15 11:00

      I watched it again. The small whistle starts as the ball is going over the line. So could have still allowed the goal.

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    2. Foul on GK is before or in the same time with handball? :)
      Your opinion?

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  29. GNK Dinamo Zagreb - KF Skënderbeu Korçë (Gianluca Rocchi)

    https://vid.me/hAJv

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    1. Anonymous26/8/15 13:06

      Very fussy with cards but overall expected level performance for me based on this video.
      Perhaps only two or three minor situations missed. Simulation is acceptable decision, allowing 3-1 too.

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  30. Anonymous26/8/15 14:41

    Noboddy mentioned Skomina. I assume it was a good performance.

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    1. That's good sign ;)

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    2. Anonymous26/8/15 16:21

      Overall a good night from Skomina. Only criticism was that for a corner kick or free kick, it took awhile for him to get the players to settle down either in the wall or in the box.

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  31. Anonymous26/8/15 17:35

    Donetsk-Rapid

    1-2 offside?
    02:48
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGA17vjCAE

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    1. Anonymous26/8/15 18:54

      I don't think that goalkeeper's attention was attracted by Rapid player. The decision not to raise the flag was surely consulted with AAR1.

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    2. Anonymous27/8/15 11:19

      No offside offence, but anyway a decision on expected level for me.

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