June 27, 2016

EURO 2016 Referee Appointments: Çakır and Skomina to complete Round of 16 (III)

These are the last choices made by UEFA Referees Committee for Round of 16: Turkish Cüneyt Çakır will handle Italy - Spain while Slovenian Damir Skomina has been assigned to England - Iceland. 




27/06/2016, 18:00 CET
Match 43
Saint-Denis (Stade de France)
ITALY
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SPAIN

Referee: Cüneyt ÇAKIR (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin DURAN (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik ONGUN (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin GÖÇEK (TUR)  
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış ŞİMŞEK (TUR)
4th OfficialMartin ATKINSON (ENG)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Michael MULLARKEY (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh DALLAS (SCO) 
UEFA Delegate: Jānis MEŽECKIS (LVA)
The 3rd Team Main Observer: Edward (GRE)


27/06/2016, 21:00 CET
Match 44
Nice (Stade de Nice)
ENGLAND
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ICELAND

Referee: Damir SKOMINA (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure PRAPROTNIK (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert VUKAN (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Matej JUG (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Slavko VINČIĆ (SVN)
4th Official: Carlos VELASCO CARBALLO (ESP)
Reserve Assistant Referee: Roberto ALONSO FERNÁNDEZ
UEFA Referee Observer: Pierluigi COLLINA (ITA) 
UEFA Delegate: Björn VASSALLO (MLT)
The 3rd Team Main Observer: Artur (SUI)

204 Comments:

  1. Velasco and Atkinson are winners of this tournament. Cheers

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  2. a final... Skomina lot of semi finals these last year...

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  3. In my point of wiew ,they will observe by Dallas and Collina because one of them will finish him Euro at R16; Cakir and Skomina committed a cruciale mistake , Clattenburg and Rizzoli not.

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  4. remember Rosetti in 2008...

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  5. The appointment of Atkinson and Velasco Carballo as 4th officials in the last matches of this round... could mean that they are the next two referees to go home?

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  6. Both are expected appointments.

    But I get the feeling that one of those 2 will go home.

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  7. Might be of interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dos0gJL0kQ

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    1. Thanks, Niclas. Very interesting.

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  8. In my opinion Cakir runs the final for sure as Black on white.

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    1. Brych or Clattenburg in final, I think.

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  9. Heber Lopes with extremely challenging Copa America Final. Both teams with constant mobbing and poor behaviour. Possibly the most difficult match I've seen since 2010 WC final (at least the first half). But unfortunately many errors. 1st half had two RCs, one in the 28' (2nd YC, probably no foul, even if foul given, YC could be avoided), and another in the 43' (SFP, possibly defendable given small contact on back of calf, but harsh). But missing SFPs in the 4', 91' (ET) and 94' (ET), all for stamps onto the side of the shin. Possibly missing VC in 36' also.

    Unfortunately, far less than 7.0 level.

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  10. According to a Dutch newspaper the chances of Kuipers refereeing the final have been increased. Reason for this is that almost from every other big referee their nation will most probably reach the QF. After the QF UEFA will make another shift and send referees home, whom national team is still in the tournament.

    Next to Kuipers they state in the article that Cakir is another big favorite and Jonas Erikson a outsider.

    Beside this article they also report that the penalty situation in Cro-Spa isn't marked as a crucial mistake. It is mistake and Collina have told that to Kuipers aswell. They call it a little tap on the fingers. The mistake has no influence on any future appointments.

    Sources:
    http://www.ad.nl/dossier-ek-voetbal/kansen-op-finale-nemen-toe-voor-kuipers-ondanks-foutje~a6967e6e/

    http://www.ad.nl/ek-2016/collina-tikt-kuipers-op-de-vingers-over-penalty~a47d1c61/

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    1. Voetbal International, one of the most popular football magazines in The Netherlands, has two journalist observing the referees during the tournament. Although the article is in dutch the marks (on a scale of 0-10) are quite interesting.

      http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/de-kuipers-index-engelse-uitblinkers-met-een-fluit.htm

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    2. Rizzoli or Clattenburg for the final,sure. It depends from Italy and England..

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  11. OT. Sergei Karasev gave a couple of interviews after returning back to Moscow from EURO. He talked about his preparation to EURO, communication with colleagues, decision-making at EURO, several important whistles and other stuff. I thought that it may be interesting and translated several of his answers:



    - Sergei, why the tournament was finished for you so early?

    - That was UEFA decision. We and several other referees were informed that we won't longer stay at EURO. As for us, the head of UEFA Referees Committee Pierluigi Collina thanked us and said that he was pleasantly surprised taking into account that this was my first major tournament. More experienced colleagues will continue.It was a decision of Collina, Dallas and Batta. All UEFA Referee committee members take part in discussions but the final decision is made by this triumvirate. We are happy that, together with Tikhon Kalugin, Nikolay Golubev, Sergei Ivanov and Sergei Lapochkin, we represented Russian refereeing school on the international level. The sixth member of our team is Anton Averyanov. He was always mentally with us. Many thanks to him. Our presence at EURO is also his merit.

    - They said that you are going home on Thursday. You returned back the same day?

    - Yes. The meeting was planned at 10am. Six teams were supposed to leave the tournament. 15 minutes before the meeting, Pierluigi Collina approached us and explained the desicion. After that the decision was announced at the meeting.

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    1. - How long before the game you knew the appointment?

      - A group in Whatsapp was created, and all information was posted there. For the first time, there weren't any meetings to announce the appointments. Collina said that it's time wasting when 100 people come to the room to find out the appointment.




      - In both games, you awarded the penalties...

      - Yes. And another very difficult moment was in the end of the game between Iceland and Hungary. We had to decide: was the foul in or outside the penalty area. The key moment... If you do wrong, one team will win and the other... You imagine possible aftermath... It was the most difficult moment... Together with Tikhon Kalugin we decided that the foul was outside the penalty area. And we were right.




      - Episode with penalty? The replay on TV was not good - the emphasis was not on the needed action. All of you saw that Kiraly releases the ball, tries to fix his mistake, and pushes to the opponent. However, here he plays the ball, and I do not react on this action. But after that the Iceland player plays forward the ball, and a Hugarian hits his leg. During the analysis we had an excellent replay which supported our decision. "You were right!" - we were said at the analysis.




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      http://www.championat.com/football/news-2503382-karasjov-smotrel-na-sbornuju-islandii-i-ponimal--tam-prosto-bojcy-igrajut.html

      http://www.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/911584

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    2. Very interesting, many thanks Dmitry.

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    3. if they supported his second penalty than I'm a bit surprised he did not stay, unless the assigned missing dive as crucial mistake?
      overall, it was good tournament for him then!

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  12. Do you know the appointments for this week Uefa champion League and Uefa Europe League 1st round ? Will you publish them ?

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    1. Due to the focus of the blog on EURO 2016 and the long time we would need in reporting all appointments, at least for now, you can check them on uefa.com (first legs are all out):

      http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2017/matches/day=-8/index.html
      http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2017/matches/day=-8/index.html

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    2. If you have urgent queries for 2nd legs, post them here.

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  13. It was really shocking to see how Argentinian and Chilean players were playing, they were making it really tough game to officiate for referee Lopes.There were protests on every decision referee made, lot of brutal fouls, especially lot of steppings on opponets foot.Performance from Lopes to me was not horrible as some of fans think, but it wasn't good either.At the end,8 yellows and 2 red cards, but 1st half was really tough for referee.In 2nd half, Chilean and Argentinian players really were not that emotional and all calmed down.

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  14. As promised in the closed thread here is a link to the video with some refereeing highlights of the COPA America' final match. 20 minutes, maybe worth watching between or after the two EURO matches tonight :-)

    https://vimeo.com/172423850

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    1. OMG! It was a battlefield, not a football pitch. Spartans vs. Warriors and a lot of unnecessary gestures by the match official in an overall difficult game.

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    2. Thanks a lot for the video.

      Just look at 7:00. The dive situation. Let a UEFA 3rd Group referee do that in a UEL qualifier. I am sure that the UEFA observer would "kill" him. Incredible match + performance.

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  15. Dangerous play whistled by Cakir. Do you agree?

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    1. I don't. Also, he gave phantom foul, after which Italians had big opportunity.

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    2. Yes I can live with it.

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    3. I can live with it, but I would never whistle that.

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  16. Hello there,
    Was it foul? Giaccherini on Busquets...Did Cakir whistle an indirect free-kick?

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    1. Dangerous play, following the attempt to score by overhead kick. I think this call is questionable, in case of goal scored we would have had many discussions. Legs were not that close to opponent's head.

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    2. I agree with Çakir. Well done

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  17. But well... one can guess why now Cakir pays so much attention to dangerous play and raised legs. Please remember Belgium - Ireland! :)

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  18. 22: Correct yellow card for De Sciglio, tactical foul, good body language

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  19. Missed PK for Spain? Chilling was pulling Ramos, one angle shoved that. We had some similar penalties on the tournament.

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  20. Good call into the penalty area.

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  21. Without this goal scored, a penalty should have been awarded for the foul made by Spain's goalkeeper. Also, I'm not sure Eder was onside, replay was not clear.

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    1. Afterwards, was YC possible for De Gea? Attempt to deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity...

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    2. Good point. Do you think Cakir had seen the foul and make the advantage?

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    3. If he had seen the foul, I think he would have deserved the yellow card as you've just said

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    4. Very difficult situation, indeed. I have the feeling Cakir didn't give advantaga, but at the same time, in case of goal not scored, he would have assigned penalty (+RC)....

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    5. Are you sure about RC Chefren? :)

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    6. I'm not sure, indeed I forgot that now it can be YC. It looked like a fair attempt by De Gea. So no card at all after an advantage.

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    7. It seemed to be a clear foul in real speed but after the replays, I'd even say that it was a dive. The attacker fell down, then there was a contact. Anyway, goal for Italy so no discussion.

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    8. Exatcly, according to 'new' law, it's YC in a case of PK.

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  22. Ok, Eder was ONSIDE excellent AR1 Duran.

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    1. Still no good replay ... Do you have a screenshot?

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    2. I'm sorry, no screenshot but trust me, I watched a clear replay.
      Now correct YC for stepping on the foot of the opponent.

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    3. Agreed, good YC for stepping on the opponent's foot. The onside decision before 1:0 was quite clear, not really difficult to detect - expected level by AR1 so far.

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    4. No offside, there was one good replay during halftime. Also, after many replays I am convinced that De Hea didn't foul Eder. He played the ball.

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  23. Correct advantage. Missed yellow card though

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  24. Perfect Çakir in the first half, in my opinion. Excellent card management, authority and body language. Brilliant.

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  25. Overall good performance. It seems he is less nervous and more focussed. Strong non verbal communication.

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  26. Good performance for sure but Cakir still not convince me. And what about you?

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    1. I don't know what Çakir more should do to convince someone in this match.

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    2. @RefRef I totally agree with you. This is a match which can go completely out of hand. With some notorious players. Please give him that credits he deserves.

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    3. Please, do not get me wrong, Cakir is doing well but in this tournament he did not show what he had shown in the past. I'm sure that this is not enough to convince you but....

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    4. Like the players, every referee had one shining season and a lot of good seasons. Our problem is thinking and expecting from them to shine every single season. After that we often talk about gooood oooold daaaays..

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    5. For me: absolutely wrong foul before Pele's chance, no foul for high foot, maybe penalty for Spain (no replays in halftime, I'll rewatch it later, but there was shirt pulling), maybe missed YC for elbowing Morata. I don't really know...

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    6. @RefRef you are right. Sorry if my comment didn't like to you :)

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    7. @Alvaro Cheers! Everything's fine. I'm speaking in general.

      Am I the only one who didn't saw contact fir Pele's YC?

      And in 60' clear foul and YC missed.

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    8. I didn't see it too to be honest.

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  27. Maybe yellow for Bonucci? He stopped the ball with his hand, not intentionally, but still...

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  28. Hand play in 49'. Missed yc by chakir!?

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  29. 54' And that's why you should be able to appeal yellows. If he were to get one in the QF, he would be right to be angry. Never a booking.

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  30. Wrong YC in 54' almost leading to a 2ndYC only a few seconds later.

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  31. Pique foul on Eder maybe?

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    1. Absolutely, even YC for SPA.

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  32. 59' Blatant missed foul. I think, based on performance, this has to be Cakir's last match. A generally outstanding official, but an unfortunately poor tournament.

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    1. Do you really think this might be his last match?

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    2. Has to be. Standards have been high at this tournament, but Cakir has been poor, which is a shame as he is usually very good. His foul detection again now 63' is poor, and he may begin to lose control of the match.

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    3. I hope the match won't go out of hand...

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    4. I agree with Daniel, but I would rather say 'below expectation' instead of 'poor' .. speaking about this match, of course.

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  33. And now missed YC in 58' (SPA), Cakir has to pay attention that he doesn't lose match control.

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  34. I think that Hugh Dallas won't be too happy

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  35. Difficult match. Wrong YC in 54'. Many fouls and dissents.

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  36. In last 5-10 minutes there have been some rough fouls.Cakir with only warnings, I think that his style is making players very nervous.

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  37. Cakir at the EURO 2016 is far away from Cakir in UCL 2016. Comparing him with Clattenburg or Brych, maybe also with Eriksson or Rizzoli, I cannot imagine to see him one more time in France or even in the final.

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    1. Also comparing him with Skomina and Mazic.

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  38. Players talking him too much! I don't know, why he permit this?

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  39. Missed PK when Parolo was taking out Aduriz in the air?

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  40. Yellow for ITA #8???

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  41. How in all the world is Conte not dismissed for that?

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    1. I like the decision, maybe I'm crazy :)

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    2. I agree with Cakir. A dismissal for that would be harsh. A strong word sufficient.

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    3. That is blatant dissent, as well as completely irresponsible behaviour. At this time of the game, it is also blatant time wasting. So everything is there to warrant a dismissal.

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    4. What is dissent in your view? He was furious because of his team, not about Cakir.

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    5. I'm not sure whether he was yelling at Cakir or his players. If it was his players, then I agree there was no dissent. However, I still think that this kind of behaviour by coaches needs to be stamped out. In MLS, they have a no tolerance policy, with retroactive suspensions if necessary, and it works. Coaches behave.

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    6. Emil, Italian people live football with a big passion :)
      Conte was mad with his team!

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    7. Ok, ok. I must admit I tend to regard coaches as more of a nuisance than anything - perhaps based on my own experiences - but I must admit that Cakir's warning worked.

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  42. Italian coach should have been sent off. I don't know why Cakir allows him to stay as he shot the ball far away.

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  43. very diffucult match. in my opinion excellent performance by Cakir.

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  44. This YC to Thiago Motta, borderline to violent conduct...

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    1. I'm more for RC.
      51% RC : 49% YC

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    2. i think refs dont believe Busquets anymore.

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  45. Well, THAT was a VC in 89'. Motta clearly hit Silva.

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  46. Was that a deliberate play by defender and was Pellè onside?

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  47. Çakir's performance is not so good in the second half. But, IMO, overall a good job. 8.3.

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  48. David Silva missed RC! Shocking!

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    1. Absolutely. Rewatched it - one must say another missed RC.

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    2. What incident was it? I must have missed it as probably the commentators of the TV where I was watching did, cause they said nothing about it. Unless you are about the foul on Silva (of Motta). Link maybe? :)

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    3. *Just to add,I watched first goal on replay and I think that there shouldn't be possible PK.. my impression is that Giacherinni dived.

      *Motta slaped opponent, clear RC, and YC for slapped player (he started conflict)
      *Silva clear RC, school example whats Violet conduct.

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  49. Not good match control at all in my opinion. Have seen much better matches of Cakir. Has to be his final game in this tournament.

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  50. Very difficult match. first half well done second half slippery..... Overall I would give a 8.3. Still I like his non verbal communication. Interesting to see what will happen now Italy stays in.....

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    1. But we have two possible VCs?

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  51. For me, this was clear. Cakir has not been performing well this tournament and today it was the same. But something that has not been said is that he booked TWO spanish players in the same situation for dissent. But Italian players have shown more dissent through the game and none has been booked. In fact, italian coach should have been sent off for kicking the ball when it was almost still in play. That means that he has hold a different line for each time. Then, a few fouls which were not (and in one he even issued a YC) and quite a few missed ones.

    I will not talk much about the penalty appeals because I have not seen the replays with the appropriate attention, but there was one in which I seem to recall that Aduriz was being blatantly held (his neck was surrounded by Italian player's arm) which could be considered as a penalty.

    So all in all, I didn't like the performance. He was lucky that the result in the second half was not a draw, as otherwise he would have totally lost control.

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    1. Also, Motta's yellow card was far closer to RC for me.

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  52. I am disappointed by Cakir in many ways.

    After a good start (I think the first half was on 8.4-8.5 level), he more and more lost his line, made 2-3 clearly wrong decisions, became hesitant, inflamed the match and made it more difficult than necessary. I don't think that the match was very difficult out of the blue - it was his fault more or less.

    Most important: Between 46' and 70', he was hardly respected and accepted by the players.

    YC missing to David Silva around 60' - and, for me, 89' and 90+1' both were violent conducts. Both in Cakir's immediate line and area of vicinity.

    The biggest positive point was his 1st half when I thought to see the usual Cakir. But the 2nd half...not enough for further matches I think.
    Top officials should deliver top performances at this tournament, and I fear that he did not do so in all 3 matches.

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    1. Yeah, true that, I totally agree and have the same feelings, really inconsistent. Plus, he did look angry in few situation when managing the players and also - actually too much body langauge (especially "calm down, calm down" gesture which did not seem to be working) and not enough talking to the players from my point of view.
      I think Cakir is the biggest refereeing disapointment of the tournament. From the main candidate for the final to one the weakest performer - not close even to TOP 10. Actually none of his 3 games were on expected level. not even talking about his level. Well, maybe there are some personal issues (?), because he was in top shape for whole of the season and in France I saw simply unhappy, mentally tired man. Sad but true

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    2. Agree with every single word.
      And yes, I don't think that Conte should be sent off.

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    3. I think even a Cakir in "not his best form" is still an OK referee. But yes. I think he disappointed, but I am not sure whether UEFA thinks the same (mostly likely they don't).

      What I am more worried about is that one message did not arrive among UEFA, even though this is also a problem in FIFA and other associations: The best predictor for future behaviour and performance is past performance. Cakir and Velasco both did not deliver convincing performances in the group stage and, surprisingly (?), contrary to other 5 good Round of 16 performances, they did not do that well.

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    4. Yeah, it looks like teams for R16 were chosen before tournament and even the overall better performers than two you mentioned (esp. Karasiev) were left out anyway. If with Cakir I can understand it - he worked for his position for past few years and it's pretty obvious you wouldn't ommit such a good ref after 1 or 2 weaker games (esp. if the mistakes weren't blatant for ordinary fans), than with Velasco I thought it was over the top and it actually turned out to be true. Luckily none of them influenced the score so there won't be much talking in the media, which also is somehow important, but I hope UEFA RC will not surprise us with asigning one of them for semifinal (or final), as they truly did not deserve it.

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    5. RefPliz: I fully agree. Well written. But I'm sure, Cakir wont be appointed again. He got more than the deserved in this tournament. I wish him the best for Olympic games.

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  53. My mark for Cakir is 7.4. Sorry, this time I can't find a compromise, because both violent conducts at the end of the game had to be punished by a straight RC. It was enough. Apart from that, many points for improvement in second half. The first half was indeed OK but this can't be enough. I'm really sorry, Cakir's tournament was negative, committee tried to trust him before today but he confirmed his bad shape at moment. I never saw the "old" Cakir. Surely, he wont get further matches.
    I see now room for Skomina and/or Mazic in a important game.

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    1. I do agree up with all your points. An OK first time followed - for my taste - by a debatable second half

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  54. I can't believe that some of you here said that the mark should be 8.3!!! Just close your eyes, imagine Karasev, Moen or Hategan and what mark would you give? I wrote here on halftime that Cakir didn't convince me at all (just a few of us saw that obviously), but second half was a disaster. Lots of missed fouls or whistled where they didn't exist, completely lost himself, and at the end missed clear, absolutely clear RCs for Motta and Silva. Also, maybe two penalties missed... All in all one disastrous performance. Under 7.3 if we want to be honest, at least two crucial mistakes, maybe more, and lot of "minor" mistakes. Poor in everything. I know I am harsh, but this is my opinion.

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  55. Well, that was a very, very disappointing performance by Cakir. I barely dare to say that I had an apprehension that this could happen. After two performances below expections one has to say that Collina didn't do him a favour to appoint Cakir for this match - now he showed us why.
    First half was solid, maybe even good. IFK was correct or at least acceptable, first YC correct, second YC spot-on. One can argue about his style of refereeing - to be honest I'm no fan of it and Cakir in general - but everything was ok.
    Second half was weak. 2-3 missed YCs and blatant problems in foul detection, especially around 50'-60'. Very much dissenting, almost not accepted by the players due to his foul detection. Nevertheless the most important incidents were in 89' and 90+1', both clear violent conducts that had to be punished with a straight RC - Cakir cannot be supported or backed in these situations.
    Conte was lucky that Cakir didn't ban him, he shot the ball miles away, further he was quite aggressive - Cakir's decision to only warn him can still be accepted.
    IMO Cakir doesn't deserve another match due to two matches below expections and one match that was obviously below expections.
    Today I'd go for a 7.3 .

    Screenshots of both violent conducts:
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4399/vmc9axpo_png.htm
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4399/qcfsnwha_png.htm
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4399/ldhaxvez_png.htm

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    1. A 7.4 does not match with your description. Two crucial mistakes are already 7.4 - then you mentioned furthermore 2-3 missed YC and blatant problems in foul detections.

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  56. The most awful performance of this EURO. 7.2 !Cakir must go home. And i think that for Italy-Germany we'll need Clatts.

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  57. Correct penalty decision by Skomina, perhaps in cooperation with Jug.
    No card seems to be a correct decision as well.

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  58. Great start from Skomina! Really stupid from the keeper, Sterling was goining nowhere. Always wonder why they do that instead of just let the attacker go, happens so often...

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  59. Indeed correct! no YC also defendable.

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    1. I think the YC would simply be wrong in this situation. How it can be SPA if the attacker has no chance to continue his attack as he would never keep the ball on the pitch - it was a priori known that all he could do was get to the ball quicker and just touch it first so he could be fouled and get a pen. OF course, you always should have "an alarm in your head" when GK commits a foul, but you also have to take into account all circumstances ;-)

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  60. Wow, what a game... 1:1 after 6'. Also good start for Skomina, correct penalty decision, no card correct as well.

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  61. To be honest, i m very surprised with the performance of this blog during the EURO 2016 games. All the comments are like supporters. It was better at World Cup 2014. we have to technically assess the positions. What does Skomina or Cakir must go home mean before they show their performance. This can not be a comment in a referee blog. We know that most will take third matches. Are we fortune tellers? Everybody needs to watch the games than assess the referee. One day before the final referee is announced of course we can tell our favorite. But even from the beginning everybody is giving the final to someone.
    I dont like the way people comment. He missed a clear YC so he must go home. What does this mean? Come on.

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    1. While I agree with you that there are many "fan boys" on the blog. When in the eyes of the blogger a referee underperforms in a match. Said blogger is entitled to express his opinion. Referees are not exempt from being scrutinized and/or criticized. It's the nature of the beast.

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    2. So how do you assess referees? We're not in the business of merely repeating Collina's decisions. I am sometimes annoyed by some of the comments on this blog, but in general I find the standard is high. For Cakir, well, we are discussing a stream of poor decisions. I'm not sure what you're referring to about discussing referees before they perform - Cakir did perform today, and we are discussing how he performed today.
      And what exactly is wrong with making predictions? Apart for very few commenters who are groupies of certain referees, most commenters make predictions based on performance. Saying that Clattenburg should get the final rather than Cakir is not saying that I like Clatts personally, or because of who he is, but simply that he has performed better.

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    3. And I don't understand what you are on about (i.e. what problem you see in that) :)
      1) Forum is to giving away opinions and if you have some arguments to support it and you don't offend anyone, I think then everything is alright
      2) Noone here is fortune teller, but everyone can have the predictions. The referees for the tournament are well known, carefully selected, watched, their performances are deeply analysed, they are creme de la creme of European refereeing, so everyone who follows this knows who is capable of what. Every opinion "a priori" is only a prediction, rather than a firm statement. And taking all the circumstances to consideration - their expereince, performances during tournament and the progress of national teams - we can try to guess who HAS CHANCES for the most important matches. What is actually wrong with this? :)
      3) "He missed a clear YC so he must go home. What does this mean? Come on." it's simply overstatement - who had such an opinion here? I think barely noone. For instance, Cakir and Velasco made many errors and performed under par during the course of the whole EURO, so I think many people here (including me for example) said something exactly opposite - that they got to R16 not because they were good during griup stage, but because they were high in ranks beforehand (and have experience). And if anyone said someone "has to go" it's not because one YC wrongly given, but because of many errors

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  62. I know that my humble opinion will never be be heard by PLC & Co. But Cakir has gone through this tournament seemingly simply guessing in his matches. And he has more often than not guessed wrong.
    You can only live so long off of past glories. Football is a what have you done for me lately type of game. And Cakir has been far from his top form lately.
    Eventually you have to let him go for the good of the game. Too much is on the line for all these nations to allow an underperforming referee to ruin it for one of them.
    Do the right thing PLC and send Cakir home. Give him the time necessary to refocus for the Olympics. Because a person's name should never outweigh their current performances.

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  63. Very good first half for team Skomina. Positioning excellent player management very good. He looks very relaxed and is accepted by all players!!! good job.

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  64. If somebody says, there must be two RC in this game and the referee missed, i will definitely say he does not understand the soul of football, contact in football, the atmosphere of the game, the difficulty of the game, nothing about refereeing. Italy or Spain, two big teams, one will go before quarter finals. Even the atmosphere will be different if this was the final. Because both team will have a success with final. This game is more difficult if it is for Quarter only. You must understand the behaviours of players. You can not manage this game just with the laws of football. YC and RC are not the only criteria for the football. You must not loose yourself in the pages of laws of football. you must be a aprt of the game. You must not just referee. you must manage the game. think about copa america final. the management skills became low. you can judge the referee more. but think tonights game. of course they will come and say something but see the control of the game. you must first see this. others are some time details. everybody watched a %100 tough game from both side in some periods and referee gave them this chance. people enjoyed the game they watched. dont kill the soul of the game by meaningless comments.
    just an ex, first goal, somebody says, must be YC to goal keeper. Come on. This is football. that is goal. nothing else. what are you watching? as i said dont loose yourself in the book pages. see the football first.keep the players in the field. try to manage if you can manage like this.

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    1. when I summarize it with look at the big picture and don't behave as accountants than I agree :-)!

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    2. Ah, utilize the Carlos Velasco Carballo style. Yeah sure because that has worked so well for him.
      Furthermore, game management will never ever replace the Laws of the Game.
      Unfortunately more and more referees are adopting your twisted sense of officiating. Thus leading to a more physical and borderline violent type of football. In the mid 90's FIFA clamped down on this because great players careers were ended early. However we seem to be reverting to those old days of football full of brutality. Never forget that we as referees are responsible for the physical well being of the players in our matches.

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    3. I understand what you want to express, REFGOOD, but we cannot ignore clear and mandatory RCs that weren't given (like today). Violent conducts are violent conducts and have to be punished with a straight RC, it shouldn't matter how the match will probably develop.

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    4. I agree with you, Refgood. I think Çakir's performance today was quite good. In my opinion this performance is not acceptable in another context, but this is a Euro. If we are strict with the laws, perhaps there must be two red cards in this match, etc. But I try to see the matchwith overall impression and not finding the mistakes all the time. O
      There are many ways to see a match and to observe a referee.

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    5. The point is that even if we accept both violent conducts as a YC (maybe acceptable in the big picture, not acceptable in the sense of football/the LotG), the performance was not good. 45-70 were enough to make it 8.1-8.2 regardless of what happened in 89 onwards. Little acceptance & respect.

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  65. Yeah, you are right in this, but on the other hand, you cannot shift too far away from the LOTG - you must find right balance between the rules and common sense, but going too far in one way is as wrong as going too far in the other.
    Look, during the lat WC the instructions to the refs were "be friendly and lenient" and how it ended? With Neymar's serious injury which kept him out of the semifinal.
    From what I read, sorry, but it seems you support violence in football. So what, they should start regular fight to be sent off? When I'm on the pitch, I try to let the players play and not disturb them, but when there is violent conduct you need to react and kick it out of the game!

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  66. Very good performance by Skomina's team so far. The penalty kick assigned in the first minutes of the game to England and then scored by Rooney was very good.

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  67. 64: correct yellow card to Island captain

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  68. RefGood, if that's the type of officiating that you prefer. I suggest that you watch the USA Major League Soccer. It's a low skill soccer league where the referees allow thugs and goons to turn the beautiful game into something unrecognizable. We can thank Peter Walton for the terrible instruction and training that he gives his referees.

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    1. That is utter bull-crap. MLS officiating has made huge strides in past years, and MLS has one of the toughest lines on SFP and VC in the world (much stricter than UEFA). There is still an old guard of referees that needs to be replaced, but a significant number of officials are of high standards and could probably hold their own in Europe. I'm not talking world-class, but European first division.

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    2. MLS has over expanded to the point where they are forced to utilize referees that have no business officiating at a professional level. But true to US Soccer's long failed attempts to achieve world class. They went looking for answers in Britain. Also me being part of US Soccers referee program. I see, read, and hear the utter useless and mistaken instructions and directives being sent to the referees. I for one refuse to sell out and abandon the style that I was brought up with and adopt this new lenient approach that US Soccer is pushing.

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    3. World class refereeing does not happen in 5 years, but there are the foundations of a solid program. MLS can import top players, but PRO cannot import referees (Alan Kelly excepted, and I would very much like to hear what happened there).

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  69. Skomina excellent and calm until the last second. Congratulations to Island.

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  70. Well. That at least frees up some matches for Clatts which he'll deserve. On today, Skomina and his team were exceptional. Little to do, but still remained strong, concentrating through every minute. Good strong bookings as well. Overall, very, very good, and Collina should be happy with that.

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  71. For me Skomina can get 8.5 in this game, I was positively impressed by his performance. One key decision correctly taken, always in control, good card management, everything under the eyes of Collina.
    Skomina will get very likely another game, in my opinion.
    Clattenburg, after this evening, can be happy, too. No problems for him because England is out. But what a dream by Iceland, I'm touched for them. Congratulations...

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    1. I agree Chefren. Excellent performance. I would even go to 8.6. I think Atkinson will be happy.....

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  72. Well, good performance by Skomina. He showed very good skills and physical condition too. The penalty decision has been the main situation of the match. I totally get why he did not book Iceland goalkeeper. Sterling was going on the middle of nowhere and there were no points in pulling him down.
    Those are my thoughts. If you think I'm wrong, I will pleased to read more about it:)

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  73. Can Clattenburg/Atkinson referee Iceland, if (if!) they make it to the final?

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  74. Thoroughly impressed by Skomina.

    Good night for Atkinson and Clattenburg.

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    1. Haha, I don't know if they wouldn't be offended by that!
      Must be weird feeling - I'm sure that Clats is really torn apart - he surely wanted his country to get far, but probably "his other side" is very happy now, because he will get another big game (with England out, his current position and recent performances I'm pretty sure of that)

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    2. ...professionally speaking, of course ;)

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  75. Skomina is a candidate for the final after today. Very well done, 8.5.

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  76. BTW don't you think that actually LOTG are a bit non-logical regarding fouls in the box after the changes? Look - if you are "guilty" of DOGSO in the box, but you wanted to play the ball, it's only YC, but doing SPA in the box is punished in the same way. Wouldn't it be better if that was also changed and SPA in the box would be without a caution? Would make more sense IMO.

    (BTW. that is, from few years, a case in Polish football anyway - the official guidelines say you don't book a player for SPA in the box - as they say - it is not actually SPA, because you get more with penalty that you would get with promising attack)

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  77. Now we have some good shouts for the final...

    Atkinson, Clattenburg, Marciniak, Mažić, Rizzoli, Skomina - all deserves to be appointed again. However, Rizzoli could be out due to Italy, but even if, we have still 5 names, not counting the 1/4 final referees!

    That all proves us how good level of officiating is at this Euro.

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    1. And....what about Velasco? I perfectly know he has had a bad tournament up to now but does he have a 10/15% chance to get the top clash in Paris on July the 10th?

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    2. I think so. He is a candidate for the final.

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    3. You both are kidding, right? You cannot be that subjective. Speaking the truth, Cakir, Moen and Velasco were the worst, and only those three were far under expected level. Everybody else delivered very good/excellent performances.

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    4. Oh, please. Velasco and Cakir should clearly be out of the contest - it would be simply unfair to others with much, much higher standards here. Then (if I can make some predictions) I would also rule out Atkinson (concerns over his fitness because of injury + there is always some politics and 2 English refs would be surely too much as Clattenburg is of course much better and I think, sure candidate for one of last 3 games) and Marciniak (that would be sure if Poland gets to the semis, but also due to lack of experience - EL semifinal is not even next to EURO semifinal). Then (for last 3 games) I don't give high chances to Kassai (already got opening game, was OK, but still worse than others). Eriksson (due to his last EL final - there would be probably a lot of talking about him, I think) would surprise me there as well, for Kuipers there might be a problem if Belgium goes through (?) and obviously one of the duel of Brych/Rizzoli will be out (but I'm pretty sure the other will get one of the games).

      So for candidates for last three games, my no. 1 candidate is Clattenburg, then Rizzoli (if Italy goes out) and for the other 1/2 games the choice could be between Brych, Kuipers (OFC depending on their 1/4 performances), Skomina (much stronger than I thought after today!), Mazic and maybe Eriksson.

      But very many options and I'm pretty sure whoever gets there will deliver - so I agree - so far this EURO is really good in terms of refereeing, which doesn't surprise me TBF - whole business becomes more and more professional :)

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    5. Yes of course you are right. I only said that since he will leave refereeing after the tournament (UEFA will probably give him a last opportunity, MAYBE even if he already had it) since he is still there in France after two bad games at the group stage and one that personally did not convince me at all at round of 16 and since Spain went out today against Italy he might still have a 10% possibility to reach the top of the matches. I'm not kidding at all, in fact I've never talked about FINAL REFEREE: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP). 10% is rather low as chance and I think that everybody has an opportunity to go through till the end. This is my opinion of course you may criticize me or else but no worries, I'll accept it :)

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  78. I haven't seen such a souvereign and faultless performance for a long, long time. Skomina must get AT LEAST a semifinal now.

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  79. Teo totally different matches today. First one very challenging for the referee, second one very normal and calm. Probably we would speak differently about refs' performances of Skomina and Cakir changed their roles. There were hardly situations for Cakir to blew up in this match, except penalty decision. Very easy match for Skomina from 3rd minute. I can't be objective speaking about Skomina, because he is my favorite, but I believe we can agree (besides missed PK in his second match) that he deserves semifinal. I don't think he'll get final - simply he is coming from small country with weak football teams, and he didn't whistle some of the big finals. So, semifinal would be his maximum. On the other hand, it's been mentioned here that at least 7-8 refs deserve one of last three matches. Skomina already whistled this year CL and EL semifinal, so I would understand if this is his last match, because there are others that deserve to be praised for their performances. If we see Clattenburg, Eriksson and Skomina again in most important matches (Cakir has to be out), that would not be the best message for other refs that gave their best here. But, my feeling is that we will see Clatts and Skomina in last 3.

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    2. I think Marciniak has reached everything what was possible for him at this championship. He is only referee from "the new elite" who was in round of 16. Before the tournament he said in interviews that he would like to reach something more than group stage (round of 16 or quarterfinals)and gain the experience.

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  80. Germany vs Italy cakir.And final ref Cakir.This is reality.

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  81. DutchRef: I couldn't watch your video from Copa America until the end - it hurt too much. It is positively shocking that CONMEBOL could not give the final to a half decent referee. It is a wonder how (whether) Mr Lopes passed his fitness test. His poor fitness forced him to anticipate exaggerately and led him away from hot situations. He was immobile and poorly positioned. Decisions were poor and regularly inaccurate (Rojo's red card). He was seen bowing to pressure (Rojo's red card? Messi's 'dive'), match control was inexistent, and the general standard was appalling. This was not a good referee having a shocker; this was a manifestly inadequate referee who should never have been there.

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    1. I watched the match last night in live and now I had a look to DutchRef's clip. I've been completely disappointed with Heber Lopes performance. 0 control of the match, the player did what they wanted and the referee let them do...I am a follower of Brazilian League and the domestic matches he usually shows pretty decent performances and is also well accepted into the pitch. Of course, we cannot even compare Brasilerao to Copa America...Yesterday his performance made me astonished. I hope he will find some energies and try to go on refereeing like he is able to do, because yesterday was definitely not him.

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    2. Maybe there is some added value for referee instructors:

      Collect your newbies / young talents, show them this video clip, tell them "This is how refereeing should not look like." and let them go home. Next time discuss what went wrong and go into detail, finding other positive examples where things went better.

      Well...I am trying to seek something positive in that. But I really really don't remember such a performance by a match official since 5 years (+3 days) of blogging.

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  82. My predictions:
    POL-POR Eriksson
    WAL-BEL Kassai
    GER-ITA Kuipers
    FRA-ISL Brych

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    2. More likely:
      POL-POR Brych
      WAL-BEL Kassai
      GER-ITA Eriksson
      FRA-ISL Kuipers

      Brych for FRA-ISL is unlikely as Fidje mentioned, Kuipers already handled Germany.

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    3. My predictions:
      Poland-Portugal: Kuipers
      Wales-Belgium: Kassai
      Germany-Italy: Eriksson
      France-Iceland: Atkinson

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  83. I watched the video by DutchRef about Lopes, let me say that I'm shocked. I'm sorry if I use this term, but Lopes was absolutely not in the condition to handle this game, what I saw was something rarely experienced before today.
    First of all, one must say that players from both teams acted unfairly all game long, but well, Lopes wasn't ready at any rate to face them.
    Apart from some clear physical troubles affecting him all match long (but of course one can still understand), the main problem is that he was never in control and he had not idea how to deal with players. In addition, this particular style to make such sudden and weird gestures, this habit to talk to players like a great friend (as Niclas said, if a UEFA referee does that in a game, he is surely reproached by observer), contributed in my opinion to a very negative overall impression. He missed two straight red cards (91' and 94'), he had some problems in foul detection and he wasn't able to read the game. A referee not suitable for such game. I'm really sorry to say that, this can sound really harsh, but the video is clear. I felt embarrassed for him. Well, of course the main responsibilities belong to CONMEBOL.
    We should imagine such officiating in a EURO final, it would be dreadful.
    I'm sorry for our South American readers, but I had to say that, because I was really shocked.

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  84. Wow, I have never seen such a thing before in TV! Seriously, he looked like he was taken straight out from Sunday league game or as a teacher which cannot handle his class. No control from the very beginning. It's more than simple "physical problems", it's pure inability (in terms of stamina) to handle a game in this pace. He was really far from the action from the very beginning (look even at 1st situation of a clip). Sorry, but how top players may respect someone who is not a good athlete? Do you imagine them dissenting like that to, let's say, Skomina, Marciniak or Erikkson? No authority on the pitch at all. No pro-activity. No management. No stamina - look at the situation in 99th minute - I think he calls a foul because he stopped Messi (?) and when he got up, he looked like he had enough, like he got up from the bed after long ilness. + really weird and uncosistent body langauge - he was either too friendly where he should be strict or too autorative (at the end of the clip he almost hit a player while warning him!). Card showing procedure was simply parodic. With all this, so big and quite many wrong decisions look like the smallest problem. No calmness, simply no clue. I feel sorry for him, but he unfortunately showed he was completely not up to the challenge

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  85. A small remark on Skomina, I think he could have whistled the end of the game before the last corner kick. Indeed, it was assigned when a few seconds were still missing, but it isn't mandatory to allow the execution when time is over. We all know that this counts only for penalty kicks. So, I think a goal by England following the corner, would have caused many discussions. Sometimes, one should be strong enough, to whistle even before a corner is kicked if time is over.

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  86. Clattenburg,Brych,Çakir and Kuipers.....the best.

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  87. UCL First leg
    28/06/2016 (today's) matches
    - 6 p.m.
    Partizani vs Slovan Bratislava
    Referee: Erez Papir (ISR)
    Assistant referees: Dvir Shimon (ISR), Kiril Balikin (ISR)
    Fourth official: Shalom Ben Avraham (ISR)

    - 6 p.m.
    Rabotnicki vs Budućnost Podgorica
    Referee: Zbynek Proske (CZE)
    Assistant referees: Radek Kotik (CZE), Robert Hájek (CZE)
    Fourth official: Pavel Julinek (CZE)

    I tried to make the mane copy-pastable. If you want, I could also write all the other appointments for the first leg.

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