October 31, 2016

Champions League 2016/17 - Referee Appointments for Matchday 4 (Wednesday)

UEFA has chosen the following eight officiating teams to take charge of next Wednesday's Champions League ties in Groups E - H. 



Group E, 2 November 2016, Wembley
Tottenham Hotspur - Bayer Leverkusen
Referee: Jonas Eriksson (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mathias Klasenius (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Wärnmark (SWE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Johannesson (SWE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Markus Strömbergsson (SWE)
4th Official: Daniel Gustavsson (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ilkka Koho (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: João Morais (POR)

Group E, 2 November 2016, Monaco
AS Monaco - CSKA Moskva
Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Žunič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Manuel Vidali (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Mitja Zganec (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Rade Obrenović (SVN)
4th Official: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Eggert Magnusson (ISL)

Group F, 2 November 2016, Dortmund
Borussia Dortmund - Sporting CP
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Kevin Blom (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
4th Official: Jan de Vries (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Jones (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Scott Struthers (SCO)

Group F, 2 November 2016, Warsaw
Legia Warszawa - Real Madrid
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Roman Slyško (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Ivo Nadvornik (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Petr Ardeleanu (CZE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Karel Hrubes (CZE)
4th Official: Tomas Mokrusch (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Siarhei Ilyich (BLR)

Group G, 2 November 2016, Copenhagen
FC København - Leicester City
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Marco Fritz (GER)
4th Official: Markus Häcker (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Martin Sturkenboom (NED)

Group G, 2 November 2016, Porto
FC Porto - Club Brügge
Referee: Alberto Undiano Mallenco (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabanero Martínez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
4th Official: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Oguz Sarvan (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Aleš Zavrl (SVN)

Group H, 2 November 2016, Sevilla
Sevilla FC - Dinamo Zagreb
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
4th Official: Jan Seidel (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Carmel Agius (MLT)
UEFA Delegate: Kazimierz Oleszek (POL)

Group H, 2 November 2016, Turin
Juventus Turin - Olympique Lyon
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin E.J. Zeinstra (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Richard Liesveld (NED)
4th Official: Davie Goossens (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Fröjdfeldt (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell (SVN)

85 Comments:

  1. Moen without a match on MD3/4. Suspended after the Iceland game?

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    1. It would be logical but maybe he is appointed to a EL game?

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    2. Polish officials involved? :)

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    3. Raczkowski in Amsterdam, Gil in Southampton.

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  2. 1) Really big game for Makkelie. It seems that promotion is already decided.
    2) In my opinion, the LEG-REA game at an empty stadium could be done by a first group referee.
    3) Big names for KOB-LEI and JUV-OL were expected by me.

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  3. The Marciniak - Kuipers pairing for two legs of matches continues 😃

    Interesting point for me is what does Fröjdfeldt observing Kuipers indicate?? 😕

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    1. Nothing particular, a normal observer for experienced Elite referees in my opinion. He is a very important observer for young referees (looking for promotions), but that's not the case, of course.

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  4. Some remarks.
    Moen suspended after Iceland - Finland, I expected that. Perhaps he had been originally assigned to the EL game then officiated by Clattenburg.
    Not good signal for Královec, I must say his performances in recent games have been too much poor and that's the result. I hope he can recover.
    Eriksson is back after some games in EL. The match will be a decider so I hope the best for him. We need the "old Eriksson".
    Juventus - Olympique Lyonnais has been assessed as very, very important game, given the appointment of Kuipers.
    Zwayer absolutely suitable for Sevilla - Dinamo Zagreb.
    Excellent appointment for Makkelie, he is now ready for promotion, I think.

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    1. Moen punishment is absolutely justified in my opinion ... Very happy for Kuipers and Makkelie with good games 😃

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  5. With Undiano Mallenco appointment, the only referee out from Champions League so far is Svein Oddvar Moen.

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  6. I'm really surprised by the appointments for spanish officials: Undiano without his usual AR1 (Díaz Pérez del Palomar), and a non-FIFA AAR2: Sánchez Martínez (who is likely to replace Velasco Carballo). Then, Fernández Borbalán appointed as AAR1. But also in EL, the same happens with Estrada and Del Cerro Grande (who will make his debut, congratulations!): non-FIFA AAR and even a 4th official. Then we have Mateu Lahoz, Clos Gómez and Gil Manzano as FIFA referees not appointed, and Cebrián Devís and Díaz Pérez del Palomar as AR. That's exactly the same team (save the 4th official) that Mateu Lahoz had on MD2. Really curious, I think.

    Greetings.

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  7. Hey Niclas and Chefren ! For Brych, i think Piller is Referees observer and dutch other guy UEFA delegate ? Don't You think ?
    I also see no french refs in Europa League. So seems Chapron is suspended by UEFA...

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  8. Can somebody please give me some information on whether Mr. David Ellerey is an UEFA referee observer anymore?? Been some days since we last saw him. 😕

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    1. Yes, David Elleray is still committee's member, but I guess he has less time than other members, due to his role as technical director of IFAB.
      You can read more here:
      http://originalsearchcompany.com/thelockerroom/technical-director-of-the-ifab/

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    2. That was an interesting read... May be we will see him in the observer's during the knockout phase when the matches will get even more important! 😎

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  9. Disappointing appointment for Královec again. Recently, he's just appointed for matches that seem to be decided before kick-off (Ludogorets-PSG and now Legia-Real). Quite hard time for Královec, but his performances weren't convincing, so these 'unimportant' appointments are logical.
    Once more no Svein Moen in CL, it should be clear that this is a punishment for his recent performances (and especially the incident in Iceland). It will be interesting to see whether Moen gets any match in this year's CL group stage.
    Important games for Makkelie, who is ready for a promotion, and Eriksson. Hopefully we will see 'the old Eriksson' again in Tottenham. Considering that UEFA has to think about who deserves a promotion and who should be demoted (if any referee will be) in a few weeks, I'm very interested in your potential candidates. In my opinion, the most probable candidates for a promotion are Makkelie, Taylor, Zwayer and Kulbakov (taking into account all the matches in front of very important observers). I really wonder whether UEFA will surprise us by some demotions like Bebek and Hunter last year - there're some referees who only got unimportant matches and didn't perform well. Of course the political influences are very strong, but I think a demotion for Svein Moen and Paolo Tagliavento (Italian politcial influences are much stronger...) would be justified. Královec and Thomson would be other candidates but they are not that likely. To be honest, I doubt that anyone will be demoted, even if it would be justified in some cases.

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    1. In terms of performance and achievement level over the last couple of UEFA seasons, these 5 are shaky candidates in my view: Fernández, Moen, Tagliavento, Thomson and Undiano. However, I cannot imagine that they'll drop Moen.

      As for promotion candidates, Makkelie, Taylor and Zwayer are good bets (although Oliver has really gained some ground, will be difficult to predict which English official will be promoted first). Kulbakov and Strömbergsson have chances, too. And who knows, maybe we'll even see a political move with one of the two Portuguese officials (de Sousa or Soares) - but I think this is rather unlikely this winter.

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    2. I think that nobody will be demoted. Tagliavento finally showed some good performances in CL, so it would be a nosense to demote him now, after many and many occasions in which this action was not taken.
      Moen would deserve a demotion only for Iceland - Finland, but well, one can't be so harsh. He is also included on the list of preselected officials for Russia 2018. However, it is possible that in future he will lose the trust by committee.
      Thomson is still there, his performances are not so much discussed, so a similar speech like Tagliavento. If the choice was not made until now... so why now?
      Undiano and Fernández are experienced, we know how committee treat them, therefore I think their spot in Elite is still sure, at least until Gil Manzano's possible promotion, considering also that Velasco Carballo retired.
      Pavel Královec is in a bad shape by some monts, I hope he will recover but it is sure he can't be demoted only for that. There were perhaps too big expectations on him, one could say that. Or, at least, this was before EURO and especially when he was appointed for Roma - Real Madrid on last KO phase.
      Another reason for which I don't think that there will be demotions it's just the fact that committee needs more Elite officials, the number is still low and some appointments are really forced. I think that 3 or 4 Elite more would be a very reasonable choice.
      Candidates for a promotion: Makkelie at moment in my opinion is the first name to take into account. The English situation is difficult to read: Taylor and Oliver are perhaps contending one spot, but it is possible that both will be promoted, sooner or later. Let's remember that England has only 2 Elite referees now and we don't know what is about to happen with Atkinson. My feeling is that Taylor could be promoted before Oliver. Oliver had a kind of comeback, after a period in which he was not so much considered. Taylor had a very good development in this meantime, including the U19 tournament. We will see the final choices, however Oliver is really still young, so at moment this is another reason for which Taylor could be promoted before his compatriot.
      About Strömbergsson, I already stated that I have many doubts. 39 years old, the future for Sweden? I would like to see more Ekberg. However, I think for now Strömbergsson will not be promoted.
      Kulbakov had many important observers, I don't remember significant mistakes, his performances were mostly regular. It is possible he is ready for the big jump, but I won't be surprised if committee will test him again, perhaps in the next KO stage, before a final decision.
      Zwayer is developing, he will be surely the next German Elite, if not now, I think for the next update of categories (in the middle of 2017) he will be there.
      Soares Dias: 2018 WC candidate and observed by Collina in recent times, merely based on the matches I watched, I think he could be ready, but in my opinion he needs more challenging games before this step. Let's see the next appointment for MD5 or 6, perhaps in CL, and I think with a committee member. The final exam?
      De Sousa is too old and I don't think he will be promoted. He is allowed to officiate in CL just to his experience and also because Portugal refereeing at moment is in a very difficult situation, at least on international stage. I expected more and more talents from this very important country, to be honest. Soares and De Sousa seem to be only "forced choices", if you understand what I mean. The same can be said for the referee who made the debut in EL two weeks ago.
      And... I think Buquet could have a small chance. There is perhaps room for a second Elite from France, waiting for the new talents like Bastien... but merely looking at appointments, it seems as for now he is not planned for this step, and he is only allowed to officiate in Champions League group stage.

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    3. What about Jug? He is getting CL regularly, this time even a quite important match.

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    4. Yes, I forgot Jug. Well, simply said: he is another candidate for promotion. With his significant experience as Category 1 referee, he is one of the first options. I would say only Makkelie at moment seems to be clearly ahead him. Perhaps he has the same chances of Kulbakov, considering also a similar age and a quite significant experience, as I already said. Some committee members observed the Slovenian in recent times. We must also remember that Jug was already very close to promotion a few time ago but at the end he didn't manage that. We will see this time...

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  10. Fernández Borbalán is makings one good season.

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    1. Yeah he was good in both CL matches that he did this season!!

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    2. He missed a CLEAR violent conduct at a set piece in Kyiv, which he actually had to spot from his position. So most likely 7.9 there.

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  11. Fernández Borbalán is now better that Undiano Mallenco. I think.

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  12. Some remarks for tonight and the future:

    1) When commenting on referee performances and specially on decisions, please include the specific (or approximate) match minute in your comment.

    2) Please try to avoid too many 1-sentence comments, but better put more in one comment (otherwise we might reach the 200-comment-limit too early when there are lots of things to discuss).

    Thank you!:)

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  13. Makkelie with two penalty appeals, both rejected; (3' and 5' I think). First one seems like a PK on a replay but very hard to detect. Defender didn't touched the ball, there was a contact but question is- is it enough for a PK?

    Second one is correct decision, players were holding each other.
    I think that AAR took the decision.

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    1. Agree with the 2nd one, but unfortunately the 1st situation in 3' was a stonewall penalty. Makkelie had a free line of sight and will have to assume responsibility.

      Kuipers with a soft but supportable penalty - many players encroached at the execution though, and I think he even thought about repeating it for a moment.

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    2. What a introduce to match..
      Crucial mistake

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    3. @Niclas
      As the penalty was converted successfully I feel not repeating the penalty was an acceptable call by Kuipers in the larger context of the game. What do you think? 😃

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  14. Correct penalty call by Kuipers in favor of Juventus (14'), but he missed a mandatory YC for having stopped a promising attack by a foul directly on the man.

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    1. Was a minute contact to be honest... As an assessor, I judged the no YC to be acceptable... Will it be wrong??

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    2. Very soft call in my opinion. In this kind of situation I always ask myself would the ref give the penalty on the other side of the pitch. I do not think that Kuipers would whistle this kind of penalty in favor of Lyon.

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    3. At least Kuipers sold his decision quite well. His body language was more convincing than the decision itself - this does not mean that it is a mistake for me. Just a bit (too?) soft for a CL match at 0-0 in 14'.

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    4. Might be a soft call but very much correct and acceptable decision... There was a clear push so penalty acceptable and a correct call IMO... Also players didn't protest much and accepted the decision pretty quickly... As Niclas mentioned earlier the decision was sold very well... Overall a good performance by Kuipers and a pleasant evening for the Dutch officiating team... 8.4 level performance 😃

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    5. For me it is a clear penalty, not a soft one, the player is impeded in his action to reach the ball. You can't play on for that. For this reason, I thought the YC was mandatory, but perhaps I'm wrong with that. However, a good performance for Kuipers, the game was not really challenging.

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    6. Tend to agree with you having rewatched the incident. In terms of a YC, there was no need to IMO. At the moment of the foul, there was no really promising attack - the player fouled would have got the ball having his back rather turned to the goal and still a defender in between. So no card is fully OK for me.

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    7. Yes Chefren a normal difficulty match for Kuipers at Turin but good performance in that 😃

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  15. Mallenco already missed one penalty. If he was not Spanish ...

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  16. 2nd YC for a reckless tackle by Stojanovic in 45'. Correct decision by Felix Zwayer to send him off.
    Clear missed penalty by Makkelie in 3' and another penalty could have been awarded, this time for Sporting (persistent holding and embracing).
    Terrible to see that Undiano has to wear blue socks despite he wears a black kit. I don't understand UEFA, is it such a problem if the referee wears the same socks like the teams?
    It seems that Eriksson isn't fully recovered, German commentator spoke of many mistakes in foul detection and I think he isn't that wrong. Now a possible penalty for Tottenham not whistled (48'), I need some more replays but it seems that the defender tripped the attacker up.

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  17. I think Undiano missed a handball penalty to Brugge in the middle of the first half (~20'-25'), which was clearly in his area of responsibility and vision.
    Another penalty appeal earlier on (11') by Porto, but the play-on can be accepted.

    Second yellow card by Zwayer (45'+) for a late tackle in midfield clearly correct, there were no protests.

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  18. About Brugge penalty, the ball touches clearly the arm which is in an unnatural position, but I no see intention. Oliver doesn't mover the arm at any moment. Undiano Mallenco was very near and decided play on. In my opinion, this is a good action to confront Agüero's arm yesterday: although when the Argentinian touched the ball, the arm closed to his body and didn,t occupate any ilegal space, he moved the arm towards the ball in my opinion. It seems clear that handball situations are the more difficult and controversial at present refereeing.

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    1. About Makkelie's second penalty appeal- never PK.
      But 3' missed PK.

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  19. For me it's borderline. Attacker is waiting for the contact. It's not 100% foul to me so I would support the decision of Makkelie.

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    1. Why should attacker avoid the contact?
      He didn't initiate it.

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  20. Can somebody please post clips of the matches :))

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  21. Yes I would like to see the handball in a Brugge. I am curious about this one.

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    1. I'm right now downloading first half to make a video.
      I will post it soon, in the next minutes.
      However, for me, a clear penalty. Position of the arm is not natural, ball is expected. Absolutely punishable and crucial mistake by Undiano.

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  22. So if the observers are consistent, unfortunately Eriksson, Makkelie and Undiano probably get a 7.9.

    As noone mentioned it so far - very good onside in the 1:0 of Monaco (AR1).

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    1. What happened in Eriksson's game? Again handballs issue?

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    2. A potentially missed penalty in 48' I think. Eriksson let play flow as he did not seem to be 100% convinced that Dele Alli was really fouled (no contact). Replays still unclear. Yesterday I was sure that there was a contact, the only replays I found now contradict that a bit. Either simulation or penalty, actually, Eriksson let play flow.

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  23. Niclas, Did you have also the clips of Eriksson game?

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  24. Video of Porto - Brugge handball:
    http://sendvid.com/pyhmwwxx

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    1. Yes, penalty. Undiano very likely could not see it as in the exact moment of the handball another player obstructed his line of vision - and as he was rooted the ground like a statue, he probably did not see it (difficult for AAR2, too).

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    2. Agree with Niclas on PC and analyses of the referee's positioning/movement.

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    3. Penalty, no doubt, but we have to be fair: as Niclas said, Undiano did not have clear line of vision. He was very good positioned, standing right where the ref should stay, but in a tenth of a second another player obstructed his vision right in the moment when the player played by his hand, and Undiano had no chance to move himself and see the handball. Also, I think that AAR2 could not see it from his position, too. Very interesting situation where neither one of the referees, even they were in the right position, could not see the situation properly. If I was observer, I would not blame the refs for this mistake.

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    4. I would discuss with him whether there was any chance to avoid it. I tend to come to the conclusion YES, maybe he could have optimized his position anticipatively. But a part of missing the incident surely also was bad luck. Difficult situation also for the observer.

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  25. Great work of Undiano Mallenco. Not penalty voluntary.

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  26. Any update about Královec performance in Warsaw?

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    1. Several minor penalty appeals but apart from penalty area incidents he had nothing to do. A very poor management in 90+2. Videos soon.

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    2. Penalty appeals:

      1) https://streamable.com/3bt1
      2) https://streamable.com/mji9
      3) https://streamable.com/j5b6
      4) https://streamable.com/en3a
      5) https://streamable.com/jj04

      Management issue:
      https://streamable.com/mf1f

      Free kick:
      https://streamable.com/odee

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    3. Thanks a lot. About the management issue: Any idea why AAR2 did not simply shout "Pavel, HAND HAND FREE KICK FREE KICK!!!"? What's so difficult about that?

      Cannot understand that to be honest. At any rate, the final decision was of course correct.

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    4. I agree. It looked so amateurish... What about penalty appeals? I think the most serious one is the first one.

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    5. The first penalty appeal is not enough for me. There is no contact at the bottom that would justify a whistle, the tricky thing is the contact with the hand in the facial area. However, no reason to fall like that, and for me, as said, not sufficient.

      All other penalty appeals were nothing in my view.

      About the free-kick, maybe at the shoe there was a contact, but apart from that Kralovec looked very insecure and not that alert there.

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    6. Neither one of penalty kick appeals for me deserved PK.
      Instead of bad management I would rather say poor communication between the officials including the AR as he too, should have seen and shout handball.
      No free kick.
      Kralovec seems to be out of shape and the team seems to be confused at some points.

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    7. All the penalty appeals have been correctly rejected, in my opinion.
      About the free kick management, problems in communication between AAR2 and main referee. AR2 can be involved as well, but it is just unacceptable that the same players seem to inform the referee about the decision of his colleague. This can look like a minor incident - but it isn't. This is the signal of a not positive moment for the Czech - Slovakian officiating crew. Hope they will improve and yes... I must go back to this appointment, I would have never expected such final score. So, at the end the game was surely more demanding than what committee expected, in my opinion.

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    8. Don't you think that the microphone didn't work and that Kralovec didn't here what was his AAR2 speaking, probably his AR2, too? This is so strange situation that I can't believe it's something else. But, Kralovec could be blamed because he was standing there for 20 seconds, pointing to a corner kick, a he should ran and see what was going on there.

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  27. Juventus FC - Olympique Lyonnais
    13' - https://streamable.com/ls2u

    Borussia 09 Dortmund - Sporting CP
    03' - https://streamable.com/zhep
    05' - https://streamable.com/218v

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    1. Juventus - soft, but acceptable PC. I love the PK management, warning/advice to goalkeeper and players around the penalty area. If Kuipers had showed the YC to one of players from each team for encroaching penalty area before the PK was taken, it would be perfect "by the book example". But it was early stage of the match,so I could live with it.

      Borussia
      03'- clear PK
      05'- There might be a fault of the attacker when he was struggling for position with deffender.If not, than another missed PK

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    2. Juventus
      I agree with Shearer. Soft but acceptable decision. YC not mandatory.

      Shearer what's your opinion about the penalty situation in Eriksson's match?

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      03' doubtful. Attacker turns over the ball with the ball behind him and leave his leg behind. For the defender the contact is unavoidable in my opinion. However if a PK would have been awarded it can be supported also.

      05' Both players are holding each other. Play on is the best decision of AAR. Brave call.

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    3. On 03' in Dortmund: specially the last replay shows it. He clearly hits his opponent's mainstay, while the own leg slightly moved towards the opponent. So no inevitable contact but simply a clear foul and, for me, stonewall penalty.

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    4. The fact that there is discussion about this situation Niclas means that it's not clear. I have seen PK's which were more clear then this one. And when there is space for discussion, I will always support the referee team.

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    5. I respect your opinion. In theory, though, you can justify every mistake by raising a discussion about something which is "undiscussable". The situation is by far the clearest crucial mistake we have seen yesterday for my taste and as said, although there is not THE truth in refereeing, I don't see any room for defending that decision.

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    6. I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion also :)

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    7. Miguel 86 - I could give my opinion on Eriksson's situation if I had the link :)

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    8. Sorry haha, I will search for it :)

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    9. Later today we'll have a separate article with most of the collected videos where you can vote. Then we should also have a video.

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    10. Sorry haha, I will search for it :)

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  28. In full speed it seems to be the head instead of the arm. But the replay is clear. Handball and PK.

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  29. Beşiktaş JK - SSC Napoli
    77' - https://streamable.com/uofk

    Tottenham Hotspur FC - Bayer 04 Leverkusen
    48' - https://streamable.com/wqbd

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    1. Very difficult situation in Tottenham - Bayer Leverkusen, I must say.
      At first glance, it looked like a penalty, after having watched the replays, simulation (I can't see the contact). At any rate, PLAY ON is a mistake: YC for dive would have been more understandable than that.
      But really... tricky.

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  30. Any news about Jug's performance?

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  31. With all comments I agree with Niclas and Chefren. This is a great blog. You can learn a lot

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  32. There is another handball penalty appeal at Copenhage at the end of the match. Brych decided to play on. The position of the arm is not natural but I don,t see intention. Very similar to penalty appeal in Porto.

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