May 29, 2017

FIFA U20 World Cup - South Korea 2017 - Appointments for Round of 16

The following officials have been appointed by FIFA for 2017 U20 WC Round of 16 games. 



30/05/17

Venezuela - Japan
Referee: Björn Kuipers (Netherlands)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (Netherlands)
Assistant Referee 2 : Erwin Zeinstra (Netherlands)
Fourth Official: Sergey Karasev (Russia)

South Korea - Portugal 
Referee: Andres Cunha (Uruguay)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolás Taran (Uruguay)
Assistant Referee 2 : Mauricio Espinosa (Uruguay)
Fourth Official: José Argote (Venezuela)

31/05/17

Uruguay - Saudi Arabia
Referee: Janny Sikazwe (Zambia)
Assistant Referee 1: Jerson Emiliano dos Santos (Angola)
Assistant Referee 2: Zakhele Thusi Siwela (South Africa)
Fourth Official: Éric Arnaud Otogo Castane (Gabon)

England - Costa Rica
Referee: Julio Alberto Bascuñán González (Chile)
Assistant Referee 1: Carlos Alexis Astroza Cárdenas (Chile)
Assistant Referee 2: Christian Rodolfo Schiemann Alonso (Chile)
Fourth Official: Roddy Alberto Zambrano Olmedo (Ecuador)

Zambia - Germany
Referee: Joel Antonio Aguilar Chicas (El Salvador)
Assistant Referee 1: Juan Francisco Zumba Galán (El Salvador)
Assistant Referee 2: William Alexander Torres Mejía (El Salvador)
Fourth Official: César Arturo Ramos Palazuelos (Mexico)

01/06/17

Mexico - Senegal
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (Turkey)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (Turkey)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarık Ongun (Turkey)
Fourth Official: Norbert Hauata (Tahiti)

France - Italy
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (Poland)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (Poland)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (Poland)
Fourth Officiai: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (Spain)

United States - New Zealand
Referee: Abdulrahman Al-Jassim (Qatar)
Assistant Referee 1: Talib Salam Al-Marri (Qatar)
Assistant Referee 2: Saud Ahmad Al-Maqalah (Qatar)
Fourth Official: Ryuji Sato (Japan)

120 Comments:

  1. France - Italy will be a very sonorous game! My prediction is Marciniak there!

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    1. Would be absolutely perfect in my opinion!! I predicted the same yesterday... Marciniak is currently​ among the best UEFA referees in terms of form along with Kuipers, Çakir and Mazic so this would be an excellent test for him in his 1st FIFA tournament... Kuipers and Çakir are experienced campaigners so they​ are already tested enough in sonorous games.. So France - Italy must go to Marciniak!! 😎

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  2. 31/05

    Uruguay - Saudi Arabia
    Referee: Janny Sikazwe (Zambia)
    Assistant Referee 1: Jerson Emiliano dos Santos (Angola)
    Assistant Referee 2: Zakhele Thusi Siwela (South Africa)
    Fourth Official: Éric Arnaud Otogo Castane (Gabon)

    England - Costa Rica
    Referee: Julio Alberto Bascuñán González (Chile)
    Assistant Referee 1: Carlos Alexis Astroza Cárdenas (Chile)
    Assistant Referee 2: Christian Rodolfo Schiemann Alonso (Chile)
    Fourth Official: Roddy Alberto Zambrano Olmedo (Ecuador)

    Zambia - Germany
    Referee: Joel Antonio Aguilar Chicas (El Salvador)
    Assistant Referee 1: Juan Francisco Zumba Galán (El Salvador)
    Assistant Referee 2: William Alexander Torres Mejía (El Salvador)
    Fourth Official: César Arturo Ramos Palazuelos (Mexico)

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    1. Can we somewhat conclude that the names getting 1 group stage game followed by the R16 matches are certainties for Russia 2018?? I mean it's pretty evident that these are the best performers from their respective confederations!!

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    2. Not necessary. Just look most recent examples from the past:
      U-20 2013: Skomina, Undiano, Faghani (group stage match and round of 16 match), Roberto Garcia (final match)
      U-17 2013: Craig Thomson (final match), Wolfgang Stark, Svein Moen, Jair Marrufo (quarter final match), Badara Diatta (third place match), Gianluca Rocchi (semi final match)
      No one of mentioned above, inlcuding Garcia and Thomson who did finals and Undiano and Stark who have been in South Africa 2010 were not appointed as referee for World Cup in Brazil (Faghani and Moen were 4th officials).
      My guess, no one is sure until the end :)

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    3. Yes that's a very valid point though... The Confederations Cup officials are more or less certain but at the same time I think participation of Kuipers, Çakir, Marciniak, Aguilar, Sikazwe, Hauata are pretty much certain in Russia 2018!!

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  3. OT: These seem to be the WC2018 referee kits (not sure, how reliable).
    http://www.footyheadlines.com/2017/05/adidas-2018-world-cup-referee-kits.html

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  4. Predictions for 01/06/2017 :

    Round of 16 :

    MEX - SEN : Abdulrahman Al-Jassim (Qatar)
    FRA - ITA : Szymon Marciniak (Poland)
    USA - NZL : Cüneyt Çakir (Turkey)

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  5. I would not be surprised if Cakir goes directly to quarter final.

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    1. That's very likely as well but that way Hauata must get Mexico v Senegal and Al-Jassim must get United States v Honduras... Very much possible!!

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  6. VARs for 30/05/17 :

    Venezuela - Japan
    VAR 1 : Danny Makkelie (Netherlands)
    VAR 2 : Mathias Klasenius (Sweden)
    VAR 3 : Anastasios Sidiropoulos (Greece)

    Korea Republic - Portugal
    VAR 1 : Mauro Vigliano (Argentina)
    VAR 2 : Christian Lescano (Ecuador)
    VAR 3 : Wilton Sampaio (Brazil)

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    1. This is excellent 😎 Specialist ARs as VARs for the knockout stages!! 😎

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    2. Are they with 3 VARs? Is that not much?

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    3. VAR1 is a referee, VAR2 is a specialist AR and there is a reserve VAR... So 2 VARs and 1 reserve!!

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    4. It is not correct to use the term reserve, but assistant, he follows the game while the principal is reviewing something. And with the game stopped he can help the principal decide something.

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    5. It's not a term invented by me... It's FIFA's official designation that they're called Reserve Video Assistant Referee!!! I can't help that!!

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    6. It's "Assistant Video Assistant Referee" on the FIFA match page.

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    7. Sorry, then it's my mistake... I confused it somehow assistant VAR with reserve VAR... Apologies for that!!

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  7. Chefren, I'm going to watch Kuipers tomorrow!! I'll try my hand at writing a short report on his performance!!

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    1. Ok, thank you so much for your efforts.

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    2. Haha your welcome :) Sometimes it seems that we are the only 2 people interested in this tournament :D

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  8. Friendly appointments:
    05.06.: Hungary - Russia: Christian Dingert, Mike Pickel, Holger Henschel (all GER), Oliver Drachta (AUT, unusual...)
    06.06.: Israel - Moldova: Bastian Dankert, Thorsten Schiffner, Mike Pickel (all GER), Liran Liany (ISR)

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    1. Indeed a bit unsual to see an Austrian official as FO in Hungary with a German officiating team!! Strange really!!

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    2. Thank you.
      I can add:
      31/05
      Italy - San Marino
      Sandro Schärer (SUI)
      Johannes Vogel (SUI) - Sladan Josipovic (SUI)
      Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
      According to some sources, there will be VAR online as test, still unknown officials.
      On next days a post about all friendlies on May and June will follow.

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    3. 04/06
      Netherlands - Ivory Coast
      Harald Lechner (AUT)
      Andreas Heidenreich (AUT) - Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)

      06/06
      Ukraine - Malta
      Harald Lechner (AUT)
      Andreas Heidenreich (AUT) - Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)
      Andreas Witschnigg (AUT)

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    4. 07/06
      Spain - Colombia
      Slavko Vinčič (SVN)
      Tomaž Klančnik (SVN) - Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
      José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)

      09/06
      Russia - Chile
      Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
      Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP) - Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)

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    5. 02/06
      Northern Ireland - New Zealand
      Laurent Kopriwa(LUX)
      Daniel Da Costa(LUX) - David Mateus Santos(LUX)
      Alain Durieux(LUX)

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    6. 01/06
      Switzerland - Belarus
      Referee: Radek Příhoda (Czech Republic)
      Assistant Referee 1: Jiří Moláček (Czech Republic)
      Assistant Referee 2: Ondřej Pelikán (Czech Republic)
      Fourth Official: Adrien Jaccottet (Switzerland)

      06/06
      Denmark - Germany
      Referee: Michael Oliver (England)
      Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (England)
      Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (England)
      Fourth Official: Jakob Kehlet (Denmark)

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    7. 31/05
      Morocco - Netherlands
      Referee: Mahamadou Keïta (Mali)
      Assistant Referee 1: Moriba Diakité (Mali)
      Assistant Referee 2: Drissa Niare (Mali)

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    8. Good appointment for Michael Oliver!! 😎

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    9. 02/06
      France - Paraguay
      Referee: Artur Manuel Ribeiro Soares Dias (Portugal)
      Assistant Referee 1: Rui Licínio Barbosa Tavares (Portugal)
      Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Alexandre dos Santos Soares (Portugal)
      Fourth Official: Carlos Miguel Taborda Xistra (Portugal)
      Video Assistant Referee 1: Manuel Jorge Neves Moreira de Sousa (Portugal)
      Video Assistant Referee 2: Hugo Filipe Ferreira de Campos Moreira Miguel (Portugal)

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  9. Off-topic:
    In Russia, Vladislav Bezborodov was named the referee of the year.

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    1. Ahead of Sergey Karasev??? Wow!!

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    2. These days, there are persistent rumors that four Russian referees, including three FIFA referees (Karasev, Meshkov, Sergey Ivanov) and Sukhoi can be demoted to 2nd league as a result of formal use of rules because all of them have more low marks in 2016/2017 season than allowed.
      The presence of Karasev in this list led to a sort of public debates about perfection of these rules. All officials confirm that Karasev had an excellent international season (so far, the best in his career in terms of assignments and as good as 2011-2012 in terms of quality). However, domestically he had a couple of crucial mistakes which were (excessively?) highlighted by the media. No decision made yet.

      In contrast, Bezborodov was very stable during the whole domestic season and became the Referee of the year.

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    3. If they demote Karsev to 2nd league will that effect his standing with UEFA/FIFA?? 🤔

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    4. Once I heard that a FIFA-listed official must officiate matches in the first division. So if they demote him, he has to loose his place in FIFA list, according to this rule.
      But it would be very unwise because he has potential to get a big european referee, especially when the ones like Rizzoli, Kuipers, Atkinson... retired. I don't think that they are that stupid and demote him, but you never know...

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    5. Yes surely he can't be demoted... He just officiated an Europa League semi-final, now he is on duty in South Korea for U20 World Cup and he is preselected for WC 2018... I mean it will be an absolute joke if they demote him!! 🤔

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    6. Honestly, I think that they will simply change the rules. Can't see RFPL without 3 FIFA referees - they don't have so many toung talents for replacement.

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  10. Referees for 2017 Toulon Festival:

    Angola
    Helder Martins de Carvalho - referee
    Estanislau Guedes Tavares Muluta Prata - assistant referee
    António Muachihuissa Caxala - assistant referee (FIFA-listed as referee)

    Scotland
    Donald Robertson - referee
    Douglas Potter - assistant referee
    Jordan Stokoe - assistant referee

    France
    Karim Abed - referee
    Benjamin Pages - assistant referee
    Mehdi Rahmouni - assistant referee

    Greece
    Anastassios Papapetrou - referee
    Tryfon Petropoulos - assistant referee
    Ioannis Toumbakaris - assistant referee

    Japan
    Yusuke Araki - referee
    Toshiyuki Tanaka - assistant referee
    Jun Mihara - assistant referee

    Malta
    Alan Mario Sant - referee
    Christopher Francalanza - assistant referee
    Luke Portelli - assistant referee

    Czech Republic
    Pavel Orel - referee
    Tomáš Mokrusch - assistant referee
    Jakub Hrabovský - assistant referee

    Romania
    Radu Marian Petrescu - referee
    Vasile Florin Marinescu - assistant referee
    Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac - assistant referee

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  11. VAR appointments in group stage (as VAR1 + VAR2/AVAR)
    Vigliano: 5+0
    Charef: 4+1
    Sampaio: 0+5
    Makkelie: 4+0
    Orsato: 4+0
    Zwayer: 4+0
    Vargas: 2+2
    Waldron: 1+3
    Collum: 0+4
    Sidiropolous: 0+4
    Kralovec: 2+1
    Moen: 2+1
    Shukralla: 2+1
    Bin Jahari: 1+2
    Diedhiou: 1+2
    Otogo: 0+3
    Pitti: 0+3
    Garcia: 2+0
    Montero: 2+0
    Sato: 0+2
    Argote: 0+2

    So, numbers are not at all evenly distributed and some referees are only acting as VAR1, while others are only acting as assistants.
    We can see a certain hierarchy between the VARs, which might already give hints for the World Cup selection in this area.

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    1. I think William Collum's is an indication that he might be considered for a role in the middle in Russia 2018... Most probably Collum will be trialled in October in U-17 World Cup in India!!

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  12. I believe that FIFA erred (nothing new) in assigning Cunha (Uruguay) to that specific round of 16 match. The reason being that the winner of his match plays the winner of the match that Uruguay is involved in.
    But then again, I am not at all surprised at FIFA's lack of attention to detail.

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  13. 01/06

    Mexico - Senegal
    Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (Turkey)
    Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (Turkey)
    Assistant Referee 2: Tarık Ongun (Turkey)
    Fourth Official: Norbert Hauata (Tahiti)

    France - Italy
    Referee: Szymon Marciniak (Poland)
    Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (Poland)
    Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (Poland)
    Fourth Officiai: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (Spain)

    United States - New Zealand
    Referee: Abdulrahman Al-Jassim (Qatar)
    Assistant Referee 1: Talib Salam Al-Marri (Qatar)
    Assistant Referee 2: Saud Ahmad Al-Maqalah (Qatar)
    Fourth Official: Ryuji Sato (Japan)

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  14. Chefren, there is not a single live streaming available of the knockout games hence I'm unable to observe Kuipers... Can you please suggest me where I can watch the next matches?? 😞

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    1. You could try www.livetv.sx (the use of an adblocker would be convenient on that site).

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    2. Thank you so much Dutchref 🙂 1st half totally missed hopefully I'll be able to catch a little bit of the 2nd half... Thanks a lot 🙂

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    3. Unfortunately they've blocked this website here in India 😖

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    4. As an ultimate attempt, try one of the following (but could also be blocked of course):
      www.rojadirecta.nl
      www.vipbox.me/soccer
      https://www.vipleague.me/sports/football.html

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    5. It's working!! 😃😃😃 Thank you so much Dutchref... Last 30 mins I can watch the match now!! 😎

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    6. Sorry Soham I was busy today, so I didn't answer. Please don't worry too much, if you can't manage to write reports, no problem!

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    7. Today's game I missed out!! I'll try to do it in the upcoming matches!! And if I don't manage it here will I be able to do in the Confederations Cup?? Actually it depends on the availability of live video of the match but sometime or the other this year I'm definitely going to try my hand in writing reports because practise will help me improve!! Thanks for encouraging always, Chefren!! 🙂

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    8. If you want to watch these games 'not live', I may help you. Contact me via referee.rayhd[at]gmail.com

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    9. Thank you so much Ray!! That will be of immense help to me... I'll get in touch with you as soon as possible!! Thanks a lot once again!! 🙂

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  15. 76' : Excellent offside call by Erwin Zeinstra!!

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  16. OT

    UEFA Referees Observers for UEFA U19 Final Tournament (2-15 July Georgia)

    Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
    Kostas Kapitanis (CYP)
    Darko Ceferin (SVN)
    Levan Paniashvili (GEO)

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  17. Hungarian Cup Final
    31.05. 2017. 19:00 CET
    Groupama Arena, Budapest
    VASAS FC- FERENCVÁROSI TC
    Referee: Peter Solymosi ( The best referee in Hungary in 2016/2017 season)
    Asisstant Referee 1: István Albert (FIFA)
    Asisstant Referee 2: Balázs Buzás (FIFA)
    Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tamás Bognár (FIFA)
    Additional Assistant Referee 2: József Erdős
    Fourth Official: Balázs Szert

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  18. What are your predictions for the Super Cup?
    I think that if Real Madrid wins the Champions League, it could be Rocchi. If Juventus wins, Mateu Lahoz (good season and an opportunity that doesn't arise very often) could be the name.

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    1. For me, Marciniak ist the most obvious choice to referee that match.

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    2. I would say Rocchi if Real Madrid wins and Marciniak if Juventus wins!!

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  19. 50' : Penalty assigned to Uruguay by Janny Sikazwe!!

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    1. Clear deliberate handball.

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    2. Chefren are you watching a live streaming or any particular channel?? I can finally watch via a streaming thanks to Dutchref ​🙂

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    3. I'm watching the game on Eurosport.
      Just a few minutes ago, some confusion on the pitch. Sikazwe hesitated before showing a possible second YC to a player from Uruguay, following an aerial duel. I don't know whether he had a consultation with VAR officials or not, since it wasn't a major incident. There were some similar scenes like Club World Cup final, when he was in doubt if booking Sergio Ramos or not. The Zambian should avoid such attitudes, he gives the idea of being confused.

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    4. 90'+2 extremely tight offside call by AR2, Uruguay had scored a goal.
      Correct by VAR to support the AR, very borderline situation. One can't be sure about the offside, based on the replay aired, but surely VAR officials had more video footage to support the call.

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    5. Sidi Alioum's AR1 Evarist Menkouande was the VAR2 for this match... Mehdi Abid Charef VAR1 and Pavel Kralovec as the assistant VAR!!

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    6. FIFA highlights omit the offside decision at 90 + 2' and the confusion around a possible 2CT. Could anyone here make clips of those incidents?

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    7. RayHD might be able to help us with this :)

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  20. VARs today:
    URU - KSA: Charef (ALG), Menkouande (CMR), Kralovec (CZE)
    ENG - CRC: Vargas (BOL), Bossio (PER), Pitti (PAN)
    ZAM - GER: Garcia (MEX), Torrentera (MEX), Montero (CRC)

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    1. Phillip, is there any news on which refereeing teams have been sent home from the tournament?? 🤔

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  21. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80MbSGKTIOk
    England - Costa Rica
    00:30 excellent decision by VAR. Difficult from the pitch.

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    1. To me it seemed that the officials on the pitch had also decided offside (Bascunan is already raising his arm) and were only confirmed by the VAR.
      But I don't know, whether the referee should make the screen gesture in that case.

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  22. Just prior to the intentional handling by the Saudi player, which resulted in the penalty decision by Sikazwe. Was the Uruguayan attacker possibly guilty of "playing in a dangerous manner"? In my opinion, his foot was quite high (chest or neck level). Because of that, I am left to question whether that action by the Uruguayan player caused the Saudi player to change the manner in which he attacked the ball. Typically a player will not go in work his head when the opponent has his foot at that height.

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  23. VARs for 01/06/2017 :

    Mexico v Senegal
    VAR 1 : Daniele Orsato (Italy)
    VAR 2 : György Ring (Hungary)
    AVAR : William Collum (Scotland)

    France v Italy
    VAR 1 : Felix Zwayer (Germany)
    VAR 2 : Pau Cebrian Devis (Spain)
    AVAR : Nick Waldron (New Zealand)

    United States v New Zealand
    VAR 1 : Nawaf Shukralla (Bahrain)
    VAR 2 : Mohamed Al-Hammadi (UAE)
    AVAR : Svein Oddvar Moen (Norway)

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  24. 72' : Completely incorrect 2nd YC by Çakir to the Sengalese player in my opinion!! Interesting to see no VAR intervention!!

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    1. I missed this incident. VAR is not allowed to intervene regarding yellow cards...

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    2. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5oo2kh_alioune-gueye-second-yellow-red-card-hd-mexico-u20-vs-senegal-u20-01-06-2017-hd_sport

      Ok, crucial mistake for Cakir. Simulation from Mexican player. It was clearly not enough for whistling a foul.

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    3. Yes it's a big mistake and eventually a match changing one... The lawmakers need to look into this, VAR should be allowed to intervene in cases of such clear errors... This is a crystal clear wrong sending off costing one team the match and it's really unfortunate that the VAR had his hands tied up by law and couldn't correct it!!! This should be the end of Çakir in this tournament though!!

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    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T06tA4Tk20
      FIFA didn't include the closer replay, but also watching the incident live, one has the impression of a very soft call.
      AR1 responsible for that as well.
      Bad simulation... Mexican player knew the opponent was already booked.

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    5. VAR needs to be tweaked to where it works both ways. Covering the referees back on incidents they may have missed. And help referees in preventing unjust sending offs, like the one witnessed in this match. In the end, it's about getting it right, isn't it?

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    6. This has to be adjudged as a crucial mistake by Çakir and his tournament should end here... It was not even worthy of being whistled a foul let alone a 2nd YC or sending off... Match changing incorrect decision in my opinion!!

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    7. @Nando : Fair point well made... I agree with you... VAR should definitely be allowed to intervene here... After all it was a match changing incorrect decision and if the system can't help reach the correct decision then basically it's of no use having the system in place... The rules for VARs needs considerable tweaking as we can clearly say in the light of this incident!!

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    8. Soham, of course I agree with you and this was a crucial mistake, deciding the game in favor of Mexico. Senegal was clearly penalized.
      However, problem is the following: if we start to correct and intervene even for yellow cards, referee definitely loses his discretion on the pitch. I know that there are some extra-ordinary cases, like this one occurred in Mexico - Senegal, but mostly I wouldn't like to question about a single YC. A pity that this was the second for the same player...
      If VAR has been planned only for major incidents (penalties, red cards, mistaken identity and goals), this is the reason.
      But at the same time, I fully get your point.

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    9. Maybe they can include 2nd YC/RC cases where VAR can intervene along with the 4 other important situations... A 2nd YC situation is nothing but similar to a RC offence both amounting to sending a player off so the seriousness of the 2nd YC cases are pretty high... Perhaps that's the bit of tweaking the system needs without undermining the position and authority of the referee in the middle but then still there will remain the pros and cons!! Would be really​ interesting to watch how this VAR shapes up finally if it's used in WC 2018!!

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    10. At least supportable, not to say correct, YC in my eyes.

      The defender clearly has no interest to play the ball and his only intention is to stop his opponent any means necessary. I don't care about the force or the hand used but IMO, it's used as a tool.

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    11. I agree with edward. It is soft, but a supportable decision.

      I'm a bit surprised that everyone immediately wants to expand VAR to cover 2CTs. This is surprising for two reasons:

      1) If you expand VAR to cover "unjust" 2CTs, what will happen in the first instance that a player is sent off for a 2CT but his first yellow card is unjust? You'll then have calls for an expansion of VAR to cover all yellow cards. The expansion will never end, until we are simply refereeing matches via video. You have to draw the line somewhere.

      2) If this play was reviewable, what makes you think a VAR would overturn it? We have to have a "clear and obvious error" for the VAR to recommend intervening. We have already seen in many of the experiments that soft penalty calls have not been overturned because there is enough there to support the foul call. In this case, the Senegalese player puts his hand out to block off the Mexican attacker and he did so when the Mexican had a promising attack. The foul might be soft, but if it's a foul it's SPA. From what we've seen so far based on penalty decisions, a VAR wouldn't intervene even if they were allowed to do so.

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    12. That's why I already said that there are pros and cons so I'm interested to see how the system shapes up for WC 2018!! If I was the observer I would definitely mark this as a crucial mistake... For me it's not a foul and the sending off is extremely harsh and incorrect!! This was just a blatant act of simulation by the Mexican player and nothing else... That's how I've read it!!

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    13. Thank god you are not an observer, Soham.

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    14. So the use of VAR to issue "missed or overlooked" cards is a yes.
      But the use of VAR to overturn or rescind possibly incorrectly applied cards is a no?
      How does this even begin to make sense?

      On a side note, how very cute of you Edward to get personal with Soham. You disagree with his point of view, so you resort to childish questioning of his "observer" status. Keep it classy bro.

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    15. @Edward : Thank you for the "compliment"... Indeed I'm not an observer and mistakes may happen when deciding on a situation... I was just expressing​ my point of view regarding the incident and I shall still stick to it... In my eyes it was a crucial game changing mistake by Çakir!! Obviously it is just my point of view and not necessarily everyone needs to agree with it... Would be great though if we just stick to discussing the relevant situations and not anyone's personal or professional capabilities!! :)

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    16. @Sheriff Castrilli

      It wasn't personal. Just an observation. What strikes me as childish is a non-referee commenting on a referee's performance and highlighting mistakes on 50-50 decisions. I don't know your motive on that matter but it's rather weird.

      @Soham

      Mistakes do happen. But from the first moment you were clear that the decision was incorrect. That's not how an observer works. And I am talking from personal experience. Such scenes must be discussed (preferably with the referee) and backed. What if another referee was in Cakir's space (Kuipers or Oliver for example) would you talk about a crucial mistake?

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    17. Irrespective of who the referee is (Oliver or Kuipers or Çakir) my reading of the situation watching the replays is still very, very clear that it's an incorrect decision... I still stick by my perception and I clearly believe it's a wrong decision and yes any other favourite referee of mine in Çakir's​ place I would have said the same!! You differ in your view that's absolutely fine but at the same time that doesn't make me wrong so at the end of the day it's different perception by different people and we can only agree to disagree!! :)

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    18. Edward, just to be clear. Who exactly are you profiling as being a "non-referee"? And based on what are you making your judgment?

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    19. @Sheriff Castrilli

      I am not talking about you. There are several things that led me to that conclusion.

      Subject closed from my point of view. I am not going to comment again.

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  25. 36' : Absolutely correct penalty assigned to France by Marciniak!! Excellent positioning by the ref to make the decision... And this time absolutely no need for any VAR to intervene!! Correct call!! :)

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    1. Nice to hear that, today no matches aired here due to tennis. :(

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    2. I was able to watch the streaming via Fox Sports but suddenly the stream got unavailable so I'm missing the last part... Eurosports telecasted Mexico v Senegal but now they're telecasting French Open so France v Italy and USA v NZ aren't aired!! :(

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  26. I watched the video of the goal scored by Italy, a player removed the corner kick flag for celebrating. A mandatory YC in my opinion. Was he booked?

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    1. No Chefren he wasn't booked... Missed YC by Marciniak there in that case... I did have a thought when the Italian player pulled out the flag and started that ritual that it's definitely a YC but Marciniak ignored it completely so I thought maybe I'm wrong!! But the celebration looked a bit odd indeed and Marciniak should've cautioned him I think!!

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  27. 57' - France's penalty-appeal (handball). Marciniak consulted the incident with VAR. No deliberate handball was the VAR's decision. In Poland it's 100% penalty, therefore the decision has not been understood here.

    https://streamable.com/rbp5t

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    1. Did Marciniak take any initial decision in this case??

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    2. As you can see on the video.

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    3. Another question I've is he could've gone to the reviewing area and seen the replay himself instead of directly taking the VAR's words?? 🤔

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    4. I think Marciniak wasn't sure and that's why he went with no call and then tried to confirm with the VAR and decided on no penalty... But it's a bit debatable in my opinion!! This looks more a penalty than not!!

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    5. In Germany this is no penalty. As Zwayer was VAR1 in this game the decision makes sense and is - by the way - correct for me.

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    6. And we have to keep in mind: VAR must only intervene when CLEAR and OBVIOUS mistakes were made. Indeed, this is not the case in this situation.

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    7. Indeed in any case this is not a clear mistake, Marciniak can be supported.
      However, a penalty wouldn't have been wrong, in my opinion.
      One important thing to say about VAR is that referee shouldn't be allowed to stop the play without deciding and then watching the incident or asking for confirmations. At first, he should decide for something (whistle / play on) and then in case of need, reviewing the incident.
      I think that, in this case, Marciniak's first decision was to play on, then confirmed by VAR (not because correct but supportable).

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    8. Yes supportable decision surely but looks more a penalty than play on!! Either way in this scenario the VAR had to back the referee with whatever call he made... This isn't a clear black or white situation and I'm sure if Marciniak whistled a penalty here Zwayer would've backed that as well!!

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    9. No penalty for me, player didnt turned around so he could block the ball, hand was near body so its clear for me not to award penalty.

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  28. Predictions for Quarter-finals :

    VEN-USA : Antonio Mateu Lahoz (Spain)
    POR-URU : Norbert Hauata (Tahiti)
    ITA-ZAM : Cesár Ramos (Mexico)
    MEX-ENG : Sidi Alioum (Cameroon)

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    1. Mine are:
      VEN-USA : Kassai(HUN)/Kuipers(NED)/Makkeile(NED)/Sokolnicki(POL)/Zwayer(GER)
      POR-URU : Grisha (EGY)/Alioum(CMR)/Charef(ALG)/Dos Santos(ANG)/Castane(GAB)
      ITA-ZAM : Abdualla Hassan(UAE)/Hyeok(KOR)/Shukralla(BHR)/Astroza(CHI)/Bin Jahari (SIN)
      MEX-ENG : Haro(PER)/Hauata (TAH)/Waldron(NZL)/Menkouande(CMR)/Argote (VEN)

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    2. Mine:
      VEN-USA: Mateu Lahoz (ESP) / Cakir (TUR) / Zwayer (GER) / Duran (TUR) / Waldron (NZL)
      POR-URU: Kim (KOR) / Mohamed (UAE) / BinJahari (SIN) / Al-Hammadi (UAE) / Sato (JPN)
      ITA-ZAM: AlJassim (QAT) / Conger (NZL) / Shukralla (BHR) / Lount (NZL) / Vargas (BOL)
      MEX-ENG: Haro (PER) / Cunha (URU) / Vigliano (ARG) / Taran (URU) / Sampaio (BRA)

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    3. I admittedly did not watch all the matches in full, but both Haro and Hauata struck me as being pretty weak overall from what I did see. I would not expect to see either again. I would predict:

      VEN-USA: Kassai (HUN)
      POR-URU: Ramos (MEX)
      ITA-ZAM: Kim (KOR)
      MEX-ENG: Mateu Lahoz (ESP)

      I'll probably be wrong, but confederational neutrality hasn't held for most recent tournaments once the knockout stages come. And putting a Spanish referee on a Mexico-UEFA game is an easy way to break it.

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    4. Confederations neutrality as already been broken in group stage itself as Abdulla Hassan Mohammed was assigned to Vietnam so that's not an issue!!! Personally I don't think Kassai deserves a QF match after making a card fest out of 2 very easy matches plus he isn't in a great form at this moment... I agree about Haro, he is really unconvincing but I absolutely disagree about Hauata!! I'm pretty sure that he will be given a QF game... He is a really cool and composed customer and his game management is very good... Best OFC referee by a fair distance and if anybody OFC participates in Russia 2018 it has to be Hauata!!

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  29. After having watched the highlights, I must say excellent NO FLAG by AR2 when Italy scored the first goal. Very likely, the defender in the middle kept ONSIDE the player who received the ball. Even in case of extremely tight offside, VAR wouldn't have intervened there.
    Penalty for 1-1 is absolutely a clear decision.

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    1. Marciniak has to be a clear candidate for the Final... A Semi-final should at least be a bare minimum!! 🙂

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  30. QUARTER-FINALS

    04/06

    Venezuela - United States
    Referee: Jonas Eriksson (Sweden)
    Assistant Referee 1: Mathias Klasenius (Sweden)
    Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Wärnmark (Sweden)
    Fourth Official: Janny Sikazwe (Zambia)
    Video Assistant Referee 1: Svein Oddvar Moen (Norway)
    Video Assistant Referee 2: Jerson Emiliano dos Santos (Angola)
    Assistant Video Assistant Referee: William Collum (Scotland)

    Portugal - Uruguay
    Referee: César Arturo Ramos Palazuelos (Mexico)
    Assistant Referee 1: Marvin César Torrentera Rivera (Mexico)
    Assistant Referee 2: Miguel Ángel Hernández Paredes (Mexico)
    Fourth Official: Matthew Conger (New Zealand)
    Video Assistant Referee 1: Roberto García Orozco (Mexico)
    Video Assistant Referee 2: Simon Lount (New Zealand)
    Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo José Montero Araya (Costa Rica)

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    1. 05/06

      Italy - Zambia
      Referee: Roddy Alberto Zambrano Olmedo (Ecuador)
      Assistant Referee 1: Christian Daniel Lescano Guerrero (Ecuador)
      Assistant Referee 2: Byron Norberto Romero Ibarra (Ecuador)
      Fourth Official: Julio Alberto Bascuñán González (Chile)
      Video Assistant Referee 1: Mauro Vigliano (Argentina)
      Video Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Alexis Astroza Cárdenas (Chile)
      Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Wilton Pereira Sampaio (Brazil)

      Mexico - England
      Referee: Muhammad Abdullah Hassan Muhammad (United Arab Emirates)
      Assistant Referee 1: Muhammad Ahmad Yusif Al-Hammadi (United Arab Emirates)
      Assistant Referee 2: Hasan Muhammad Hasan Abdullah Suqatri Al-Mahr (United Arab Emirates)
      Fourth Official: Abdulrahman Al-Jassim (Qatar)
      Video Assistant Referee 1: Daniele Orsato (Italy)
      Video Assistant Referee 2: Talib Salam Al-Marri (Qatar)
      Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Nawaf Abdullah Ghayyath Shukrallah (Bahrain)

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    2. I'm so sad that Norbert Hauata is ignored here 😭

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    3. On the other hand I am ecstatic to see my countryman Ramos assigned to the top match of the round. A young talent with a truly bright future. He continues the excellent legacy of Mexican referee's on the International stage. The likes of Yamasaki, Codesal, Brizio Carter, Ramos Rizo, Rodriguez, and Archundia can be proud.

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    4. Yes absolutely agreed... Really well deserved appointment for Cesar Ramos... That guy is a serious talent from CONCACAF just like there is Marciniak from UEFA!!!

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